Read my sig line.

Good day.

It’s really just silly at this point.

No one is going to stage a coup for you, the election is over, that is just reality.

There are no limits.

What are you going to do since you are convinced there are "no limits"? Leave the country? Hide in your basement and rely on door dash for food? Curious as to how you intend to live your life or do you think there is no saving your life and that you'll soon be dead at the hands of Trump and his supporters?

Do we have the strength and numbers to win it?

...and unless I miss my guess, President Biden is still Commander in Chief.

You better bet that they will kill many Americans and arrest liberals for use as slave labor in the fields in replacement of the undocumented immigrants.

I had assumed that this level of crazy only existed among his followers.

Glad to add I'm not one of those happy to go along with the coming bigly Turd Reich.

Handing the country over to a traitor who violently attempted to overthrow the government -- and now promises to make the military loyal to him instead of the Constitution -- would be dereliction of duty as a citizen of the United States of America.

But if that's a coup to you, all right and great! Are you going to report me?

Show where on this or any post I've made where I advocate for violence.

And I believe you would would turn me in.

And I would absolutely turn you in for committing 1/6 type crimes, I hope everyone here would.

As for this:

And I would absolutely turn you in for committing 1/6 type crimes, I hope everyone here would.

It says nothing about me and everything about you.

My point being I want President Biden to use everything in his power to keep the nation out of a traitor's hands.

So, what do you want him to do and is it okay for Chump or a Republican to do it or will we be assassinating any R that pokes their head up until Doomsday?

I can't wait for them to realize that they don't need Biden in this case. Harris can handle it herself on January 6th by refusing to certify the stolen election.

and stop the count? Yea, that’s the ticket!

volunteer to shit on Ted Cruz’s desk, if I just happened to be in town and it was requested of me.

I’m not that good at pooping on demand but I’m willing to give it a shot.

it’s a mainstream view in our party.

That's not the way I was raised, I was raised to confront bullies.

There is no fence sitting. This is a National Security threat. If no one stands up they will do what they want with no controls. The election needs to be redone. Russian interference. Foreign actors with propaganda. American citizens being denied the chance to vote. Starlink controlled by Musk. Voting irregularities. Don't forget the biggie, the big lie. The republicans always falsely accuse democrats of what they are actually guilty of. So it becomes a chilling effect so you can't talk about it.

How would it work? Thank you in advance.

Exordinary events so special election.
So just roll over and let Putin destroy our country.

I'm genuinely curious.

I have to ask though… what should a “republicanunderground” have done when things like this came up four years ago?

Laughed/shouted that nonsense down - right?

And that the VP can't actually stop the election like Pence apparently could have.

But if they won’t let the constitution stand in the way… what’s a little law going to do?

It's more blatant now, but it's been visible on DU for quite a while.

It's part of their strategy. The "Russel Branding" of society. Take normal, rational folks, and turn them into raving lunatics.

Do you realize what a dangerous precedent that would set? Once that genie's out of its bottle, there will be no way to put it back in. History demonstrates this again and again. That would become our nation's new method of succession, with no hope of ever regaining the republic we currently have. Besides, how long before someone even more dangerous than Trump (Say, some crackpot general) uses it to permanently seize power in our nation....6 months?...one year?

No thanks

Stop with the lazy shit-posting and explain what you think he should do.

I'm seriously tired of people who don't have a clue how things work opining about steps someone should take.

Let me guess, he has total immunity! What a lazy take. The Supreme Court never ruled any president has the capability to do whatever they want, just that they can't necessarily face legal actions for presidential acts.

Okay, so what? You want Biden to assassinate Trump?

Jail him?

How? You still need people to do the bidding. Who's going to arrest him? Who's going to try him (due process is still a thing)?

What the fuck do you want him to do and no, "SOMETHING" isn't an answer.

put the brakes on that. Secondly, he could grant automatic citizenship to Dreamers. Probably wouldn't hold up legally, but it would delay their deportation. I think he should pardon his son. Sure, he did the crimes, but we're looking at hundreds of violent insurrectionist criminals being forgiven on January 20, 2025, and Hunter's crimes are small potatoes compared to them. Trump wants to ramp up federal executions of criminals on death row. Biden could stay that and turn it into a life sentence. There's lots of stuff he can do if he wants to.

People just want performative bullshit.

By the time their court case comes up the next election might be coming up. As for the military, that's the least we owe them. There's no reason they should be subjected to endless investigations and persecutions by the Trump hate machine.

Otherwise it would already be done.

There is realistically little that Biden can accomplish with the stroke of a pen that cannot be undone by Trump’s.

Schumer and Democrats are rightly focusing on confirming judges.

But for giving Trump a list of people to go after.

A President cannot make such a thing happen, there is nothing to debate or delay.

There is nothing "performative" about protecting our military AND vulnerable people in our communities.

If he did, it would have been done long ago.

And before anyone suggests it more concretely than the OP did, the Supreme Court gave Trump a get out of jail/get out of court card for most of his official acts. It did not grant him the authority to do those acts in the first place, nor did it grant those acts the authority of law. He can no more declare anyone a citizen than I can. Well, I guess we both could - but neither of our declarations would actually make someone a citizen.

I agree with the pardons.

The President has no authority to grant citizenship. Holding up is irrelevant, there is no mechanism.

Whatever with Hunter. That is utterly.unimportant as can be to the larger situation.

I'm fine with converting sentences but again no impact on the broader world.

Most of your suggestions are fine and dandy but don't really address the core of the discussion at hand.

That's not my fucking job to propose what the President should do.

What I do know is that President Biden is vested with enormous power to do what is necessary to safeguard the nation.

And those powers are about to be transferred to Motherfucker. if I were in the President's position, I would do anything to stop that transfer.

There are no more guardrails.

Read my fucking sig line.

Good day.

What if Trump declares all Democrats in congress to be a threat to the nation? See how that works? We have a system for this sort of thing, and we have it for this very reason. Joe Biden cannot and will not do any such things. The election is over and the voters made their decision. That decision is that Trump will be the President in 2 months no matter how much we disagree. What you are demanding is that Joe Biden be the very thing many are accusing Trump of being.
There are a great many people that need to let go of the campaign season, it's over now.

I've been debating using the word "shitposting" to describe so many things I'm reading lately.

Because that's exactly what it is.

He also loves it when everyone rolls over.

Putin wins either way.

It is the same thing China will do when they invade Taiwan.

subsequently, can personally not align with any authoritarian nor cult leader, but I can get behind a cause. A righteous cause, for justice and the American weigh. Weigh, because of how much $$$ you got, because money + speech and corporations are people, my friend

Perhaps this notion is old fashioned now.

The GOP and billionaires are done with democracy.
It stands in their goal of total permanent power and access to all US financial resources.

Translation:

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

This translates roughly to "Do not allow the wicked (or shameless) to oppress you," using more classical Latin terminology.

DU will continue to support an exchange of ideas and a peaceful insurgency. We are the people the future has been waiting for.

To deny the electoral process.

I do believe he should use his pardon powers, at LEAST for the military brass, active and retired, for whom there are reportedly plans for court-martial and imprisonment.

Good day.

Apart from giving you a cheap thrill, is there any point, then?

Would declaring tomorrow "National Toasted Sandwich Day" be sufficient for you?

Ah, I see from your responses that you can't or won't say exactly what you think President Biden should do . You sound afraid. I am, too. But, we can't just scream into the wind for Joe to do something, anything. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe was doing a few 'somethings' that we just won't learn about until the 'Adjudicated Rapist' triggers them. We are in dangerous political waters, let's remember who the enemy is, and it isn't us or President Biden.

I don’t fucking think so. But I don’t have the power or control that President Biden has up to 11:59 AM on Jan. 20th.

I can on the other hand control my little sphere of influence and I’ve exercised it already.

A President's first duty is to defend and protect the Constitution (and this nation) from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Traitor Trump has pledged to terminate our Constitution, and is inextricably tied to our #1 foreign adversary, who is presently threatening us with nuclear war, and who has done everything it could to meddle and interfere in our election process.

the remedy sought sets it on fire.

Suspending habeas corpus?

I'd say the comparison would be fairly expansive from that during a hot war (and I'm not overly inclined to say he was acting within his authority, the Constitution doesn't grant such power and a President's power is from that source) to get to what folks seem to be inferring but refuse to exactly fess to.

We'd be overturning the whole order and would do so with absolutely no basis in the law or precedent so what would happen after that do you think?

What exactly would you have President Biden do.

Throw Trump in jail.

Ignore the will of the people, albeit stupid, ignorant, and wrong.

Declare himself dictator.

There is nothing lawfully, constitutionally President Biden can do.

And that President Biden wouldn’t do any of the above illustrates why he’s a great president, why Democrats are defenders of the rule of law and Constitution, and why Trump and the GOP are fascist thugs and scum.

The Supreme Court granted the president absolutely no power. It didn't make the act legal (not even when done by the president). It doesn't grant the act the power of law. It gave him a get-out-of-jail-free card, should any act he takes turn out to be illegal.

…..

That is question you have not answered.

...afford him any protection from violations of the law, at all.

Especially since Roberts made clear their rulings were just for the case in front of them and don't apply to any other.

Love how people present their demanding that others put themselves in jeopardy with this kind of machismo, as if shouting the inane expectation makes it any more salient.

Because the first priority is always to make fellow Democrats feel stupid, and to his end, the cheerleaders are more than happy to assign themselves the role of Gatekeeping Arbiters of Truth.

They alone are qualified to assess reality! Thye alone are free to voice opinions! They alone Know What’s Going On! They alone are free to speak in figurative or hyperbolic terms, while the rest of us are required to post material able to withstand prolonged cross-examination by top flight constitutional lawyers.

Thank god the cheerleaders are here to remind us how much smarter they fancy themselves to be, so that we can bask in their brilliance while Trump runs roughshod over local, state and federal laws with impunity. In the meantime we can take comfort in the knowledge that the cheerleaders prevented anyone from exaggerating, because truly that’s the greatest crime of all.
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based on the immunity decision - which gives him zero power.

We're supposed to be the party based in reality.

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It's the smug condescension that marks the cheerleaders' invective, and you've done a great job of illustrating it here. I mean, I'm sure that you're not a cheerleader, but they do that exact kind of "supposed to be the party based in reality" mockery all the time.

Absolutely the last thing that any of us needs is a safe space for blowing off steam now and then.

One would think that these intellectual paragons could find it within themselves to ignore the threads that so offend their righteousness, but that would mean missing out on a chance to remind everyone of the cheerleaders' transcendent wisdom in all matters legal, political, social and economic.

Praise be to the cheerleaders and their endlessly effete scoldings!

(relatively harmless, as long as the blowing off steam is not trans-hostile, etc.), and spreading misinformation about the law or advocating acting out of a misunderstanding of the law.

supreme decision has given him free rein to implement stirring the shitty pot we find ourselves in. All the lawyers and constitutional professors can figure that out, We are the majority , we no longer have slave states? electoral college is bulshit and we who are willing to stand up for democracy are willing to put our selves on the line. Im with FUCK IT all the way. The people who talk a good over analyzed game better wake up and quit being pussies. Another 4 years of this bulshit? Grow a set contact all our reps and very nicely
[ because their pussies to} lets demand this guy is a double agent and get going, That freak Musk is a problem start there time is running out FUCK Tesla and /double Fuck it Lets do this.

Cursing is usually a sign of a limited vocabulary.

in salute to your perspicacious intellect!

But here's a fun challenge!

Where did Mark Twain say that?

Let's start here:

Let us swear while we may, for in Heaven it will not be allowed.
- Notebook, 1898

If I cannot swear in heaven I shall not stay there.
- Notebook, 1898

Profanity is more necessary to me than is immunity from colds.
- Letter to Orion Clemens, 14 May 1877

The spirit of wrath and not the words -- is the sin; and the spirit of wrath is cursing. We begin to swear before we can talk.
- Following the Equator

If you go to the link, you'll find tons of praise for cursing.

So I hope you can supply me with the one time when, for whatever reason, Mark Twain declared cursing to be a motherfucking thing.

To curtail the upcoming fascism. Any fucking thing.

Good job.

I invite them to read my sig line.

At least that is a charitable explanation.

I remember all the giggles that were had when all the Trumpies were having their oh-so-cute RP :3 civil war fantasy orgies. Now I guess it's time for the heccin' bwave uwu Internet tough-guy Democwats to have their burn-it-all-down, dictatorship fetish porn.

Your post.

Everyone keeps asking me what I would do short of fucking violence. So, I'm going to oblige this one fucking time with one thing I would do.

If I were Joe Biden, I would order Treasury and Education to wipe every federal student loan off the fucking books. Today. Right the fuck now. Wipe them out so fast, no fucking judge, no fucking state could do anything about it.

Here's a second thing, I would get on the idiot box and tell the American people that for the next 60 days, I'm going to bypass the worthless gits in Congress and get the things done that need to be done before Motherfucker takes the oath of office.

Then I would execute and exercise my authority to the limit because there is no limit.

That's what I would do.

The courts would toss every illegal action out on it's ass within hours and executive departments and agencies would refuse to carry them out.

We don't live in a fucking dictatorship, no matter how much you wish we did.

It's fucking broken because Motherfucker and his cohort of thieves take advantage of every fucking loophole there is to get what they want. Think the Buckethead Gaetz nomination is sunk? What happens when the rapist dismisses Congress - it's in the Constitution - and appoints him to the position bypassing the "norm" of "advise and consent?"

Where are your oh so precious courts on that one?

Speed of action is what's needed at this point, not fucking norms.

All them MAGAts would drop their heads and slump they shoulders and admit final defeat, realisin' that they truly do deserve to be ruled over by the one true Party that is entitled to govern them for eternity.

That...That's how this Manga saga ends, right?

You were demanding powers be used to stop the takeover so I'm confused why the first thing has nothing to do with that but student loan forgiveness but a new magical kind the courts cannot reverse.

Then some ignoring of Congress to get things done which largely would have no force of law or could be instantly reversed so talking loud but doing nothing.

This also does nothing to.address the original root issue.

All the anguish through the thread and the end game was actually a magic goodie and hollow chest beating of an impotent lame duck playing at dictator for a television audience?

POWERS!!!

AND FYI... anyone who spent 8 years denouncing an American "Dictator" and now promotes totalitarian crap...

is a hypocrite.

OTOH it's an admission of guilt that would end their military careers. I would think most generals would want to defend themselves. After all they didn't do anything wrong.

A pardon can't keep the next commander in chief from firing a general or removing their security clearances... and there was never any actual chance that they would be going to prison when they had to be following the president's directions.

And I can't think of a way to do it that doesn't hurt politically. As you hint

Seriously EarlG, please make one like in 2016.

Even though all of those people who voted for him aren’t in favor of him, trying to be a dictator and taking over the US government. Most of those people are not gonna be in favor of Social Security and Obama care, cuts, and things of that nature.

Misinformation tainted their votes