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FlyingPiggy

(3,738 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:29 PM Nov 19

What's w these new mortgage lenders being so shady?

In the last 15 yrs my mortgage has been passed along to multiple mortgage lenders. And each one seems to be worse than the previous. This NewRez lender first contacted me stating I didn’t have homeowner’s insurance (I have it). State farm contacted them and let them know directly that I do in fact have insurance on my home. I now get a message that they are holding out $$ for homeowner’s insurance for me that they are about to pay FOR ME. Ugh. They do not have authorization to do any of this. Is there a place I can report them to?

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What's w these new mortgage lenders being so shady? (Original Post) FlyingPiggy Nov 19 OP
CFPB WhiteTara Nov 19 #1
Better hurry. n/t Yavin4 Nov 19 #4
yep. Gone tomorrow. WhiteTara Nov 19 #7
I've filed a claim. This is shady as all get out. FlyingPiggy Nov 19 #15
Many Mortgage Companies Do That ProfessorGAC Nov 19 #2
Insurance? Really? getagrip_already Nov 19 #3
Yep! ProfessorGAC Nov 19 #5
Its common for years to escrow Ins & tax payments. But yours sounds different Callie1979 Nov 19 #6
At 71 years old, I have NEVER heard of a mortage company that DIDN'T include insurance and tax escrow fund Attilatheblond Nov 19 #8
I've owned home in three states obamanut2012 Nov 19 #9
I hate to tell you, it's "PITI". Principle, interest, taxes, and insurance. Intractable Nov 19 #10
I piti the fools.... lol getagrip_already Nov 19 #11
I can't answer. Sorry. I just print. Intractable Nov 19 #12
It was "PITI" with us - Principal, Interest, Taxes, Insurance hatrack Nov 20 #21
In all my experience w various lenders, not once has this been done. FlyingPiggy Nov 19 #16
And, We Experienced Tge Opposite ProfessorGAC Nov 19 #17
Even after you submitted proof of insurance? FlyingPiggy Nov 19 #18
We Didn't ProfessorGAC Nov 20 #19
The lender has a right to impound for insurance. Their investment needs to be protected. PeaceWave Nov 19 #13
There was ALREADY insurance. Proof was given to them. And they STILL collected money for homeowner's insurance FlyingPiggy Nov 19 #14
Its called Lender Placed insurance Pinkpenguin43 Nov 20 #20

ProfessorGAC

(71,375 posts)
2. Many Mortgage Companies Do That
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 19

The monthly payment to the lender included a monthly escrow which was, after 12 months, used to pay tge property taxes & insurance.
And this isn't a new thing. We paid off our house over 24 years ago. (July of 2000)
What you describe seems like a long-standing practice to me.

getagrip_already

(17,624 posts)
3. Insurance? Really?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:45 PM
Nov 19

Thats the first ive heard of that.

Pit (principle, interest, and taxes), yes, but ive never heard of with holding insurance.

I have had to provide proof of insurance to get a loan, but never heard of them escrowing funds for it.

Whats next? Water, sewar, electric, internet, cable?

ProfessorGAC

(71,375 posts)
5. Yep!
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:50 PM
Nov 19

As I said, this was a few decades ago. We got our last mortgage in 1987.
I also had a different perspective. I found it a convenience at that time.
There was a pretty big "penalty" for paying insurance monthly instead of yearly, but paying into an escrow avoided the penalty and, for 12 years, I never had to worry about paying the premium on time.
Today, of course, insurers do direct pay from checking monthly & the "penalty" is not even $2 per months.
If that sort of thing had been available 37 years ago we may have done it.
You see it as a bad thing. We did not.

Callie1979

(507 posts)
6. Its common for years to escrow Ins & tax payments. But yours sounds different
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:56 PM
Nov 19

Are you saying they are going to get the insurance themselves or they're going to pay your current policy FOR you by escrowing?

Attilatheblond

(5,030 posts)
8. At 71 years old, I have NEVER heard of a mortage company that DIDN'T include insurance and tax escrow fund
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:02 PM
Nov 19

They need to make sure a borrower does not default on taxes and that property is insured. Weird that this is 'new' to you.

Intractable

(798 posts)
10. I hate to tell you, it's "PITI". Principle, interest, taxes, and insurance.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:06 PM
Nov 19

I've printed training documents for mortgage brokers. The docs say PITI. Don't know much else about it.

getagrip_already

(17,624 posts)
11. I piti the fools.... lol
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:20 PM
Nov 19

But point taken. Now i know. Just never heard of it before.

Can you stil shop for your own policy or do they force one on you?

hatrack

(61,643 posts)
21. It was "PITI" with us - Principal, Interest, Taxes, Insurance
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:17 AM
Nov 20

We took our mortgage out in 2005 and this was explained at the get-go. Not that there aren't shady mortgage companies out there, God knows . . . .

FlyingPiggy

(3,738 posts)
16. In all my experience w various lenders, not once has this been done.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:09 PM
Nov 19

I roll my property taxes on to my mortgage but not my homeowner’s insurance. Never. And I have never had any lender confuse this or do anything like this.

ProfessorGAC

(71,375 posts)
17. And, We Experienced Tge Opposite
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:19 PM
Nov 19

And, I was on the Board of a large community chartered credit union. (And, they did bundle and sell of mortgages, so we had contact with large mortgage firms. )
It was typical to do this.
You shop for your own insurance, can change carriers at any time, but the monthly payment was rolled in.
You say you never saw this. I saw it all the time. So, there we stand.

ProfessorGAC

(71,375 posts)
19. We Didn't
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 06:08 AM
Nov 20

We started out with it all rolled up. Same with those mortgages originated while I was a board member.
So, we may be comparing apples to oranges.

FlyingPiggy

(3,738 posts)
14. There was ALREADY insurance. Proof was given to them. And they STILL collected money for homeowner's insurance
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:06 PM
Nov 19

I understand you HAVE TO have home owner’s insurance. That was never in question.

Pinkpenguin43

(1 post)
20. Its called Lender Placed insurance
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:13 AM
Nov 20

When you get a mortgage loan, you sign in agreement to maintain adequate insurance on the property. This can include a wind or flood policy, depending on your location.

While you get to choose the policy and insurer, the cost is typically escrowed and paid via your mortgage payment. Each year, the lender must receive an updated copy of your policy. If they do not, they will notify you and let you know that if they do not receive the copy of your renewed policy, they will have to procure a policy for you.

This Lender Placed policy is issued without the benefit that an insurer would normally have to assess risk. Because of this, the premiums are quite high.

All you need to do is call your insurance company and ask them to fax a copy of your renewed policy to the lender's/servicer's Hazard Insurance department.

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