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Peacetrain

(23,626 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:24 PM Tuesday

Right now, I cannot feel sorry for those who voted Trump and are now fearful

Last edited Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I just can't... Do they have a right to feel scared.. You better believe it, and I am sure at some point I will start to shake this loss off.. but at this point in time in the middle of November 2024.. not too much sympathy to their fears.. What the heck did they think was going to happen??

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Right now, I cannot feel sorry for those who voted Trump and are now fearful (Original Post) Peacetrain Tuesday OP
See my sig line? Aviation Pro Tuesday #1
People who are on phones can't see sig lines. ... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #64
Aviation Pro's sig line says "I don't give a fuck." ShazzieB 16 hrs ago #108
Aviation Pro, this song's for you! Turn it up...unless you're at work! COL Mustard Tuesday #69
I'm even worse, I hope they suffer bitterly Walleye Tuesday #2
Sad to say claudette Tuesday #13
My Pop used to say, "well when things go wrong don't come crying to me. I told you so" Walleye Tuesday #27
It's scary claudette Tuesday #49
Them and their families derserve all the hate and destruction that will be rained down on them. lark 18 hrs ago #95
Exactly how I feel DeeDeeNY Tuesday #22
Feel sympathy? hlthe2b Tuesday #3
I can't either. City Lights Tuesday #4
Oh it is my lifeblood. joshcryer Tuesday #5
I truly hope they get EVERYTHING they voted for....EVERY. LAST. THING. Moostache Tuesday #6
Unreal yankee87 Tuesday #7
Zero sympathy from me. Dulcinea Tuesday #8
They can fucking kick rocks in flipflops. They can miss me with that fuck shit. SoFlaBro Tuesday #9
Me too. bronxiteforever Tuesday #10
I will never feel sorry claudette Tuesday #11
There is no suffering that Trump can inflict TheProle Tuesday #12
Neither the paper clip nor the blue bracelet is meant to save anyone. Trueblue Texan Tuesday #14
In your rush to be offended, you missed the point TheProle Tuesday #16
I don't think anyone is missing the point that we're all going to suffer. But there's not much we can do about it. Scrivener7 Tuesday #70
I guess I'm expressing the opinion TheProle Tuesday #72
You would have made your point a lot better if you had said that rather than making fun of people. Scrivener7 Tuesday #74
What in the OP is "wishing ill"? dpibel Tuesday #71
Okay, thanks. TheProle Tuesday #73
I don't know who you think is wishing ill on anyone... Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #83
What did I miss Re: a blue bracelet & a paper clip? Callie1979 Tuesday #18
It's something the right wing thinks people on the left are doing, but people on the left really aren't doing it much. Scrivener7 Tuesday #67
Norwegian resistance symbol during WWII cbabe Tuesday #76
Thank you! Scrivener7 Tuesday #77
Heck yeah thank you! Ligyron 18 hrs ago #92
You're welcome. I have insatiable curiosity, like the elephant's child. I say pretend you're not shy and ask away. cbabe 18 hrs ago #93
It's not just the right wingers that are denigrating the blue bracelet symbol... Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #84
I just continue to wear my Harris Walz buttons on everything. And will for the next 4 years. It prevents confusion. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #117
I'm not going back. Some folks chose to be enemies TheKentuckian Tuesday #19
NO ONE IS SAYING he is not a disaster for EVERYONE Skittles Tuesday #23
The Harris voters ARE his targets. LuvLoogie Tuesday #50
And that is why I will have no sympathy for his voters Bettie Tuesday #52
I'm just glad we have enough sensible men here to put us in our places Ilikepurple Tuesday #62
Not putting anyone in their place TheProle Tuesday #63
... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #66
You could have made your point without telling anyone what their needs are Ilikepurple Yesterday #80
And thinking kind thoughts about the people who CHOSE this Bettie Tuesday #68
I could not agree more! Mountain Mule Tuesday #75
Not at all. Hope they feel it sooner rather than later. Callie1979 Tuesday #15
Hell, for me it's the one silver lining to this whole shitshow. Crunchy Frog Tuesday #17
Did you know the attorney for the two women accusing Gaetz is Joel Leppard? Marigold Tuesday #59
I Ran Out Of Sympathy For Them... GB_RN Tuesday #20
oh FUCK THEM TO HELL AND BACK Skittles Tuesday #21
They thought the price of eggs would come down DeeDeeNY Tuesday #24
the price of eggs thing is pretty condescending Skittles Tuesday #28
Has everyone forgotten? wryter2000 17 hrs ago #97
Republicans don't believe in diseases. yardwork 17 hrs ago #102
When Oz an the felon take away La Coliniere Tuesday #25
Fear? I don't see any fear. Demobrat Tuesday #26
A lot of buyers remorse apparently. paleotn Tuesday #31
Is it a lot? Mariana Tuesday #44
I haven't come across any. prodigitalson Tuesday #48
Some Arab and Muslim leaders* have expressed "concern" that their man Trump Maru Kitteh 20 hrs ago #89
But is it a lot of them? Mariana 16 hrs ago #105
Thankyou. I've been wondering where the idea comes from that magats are regretting their vote. Solomon Yesterday #82
This reminds me of all the predictions here before the election Mariana 20 hrs ago #87
What is amazing is the passion with which some are refusing to have sympathy for these non-existent people prodigitalson 18 hrs ago #96
The cult? Not hardly. They like this shit. But the cult didn't elect him. paleotn 12 hrs ago #122
I still haven't seen any evidence that "a lot" of Trump voters regret their votes. Mariana 12 hrs ago #123
Google search term data just after the election. Look into that. paleotn 10 hrs ago #124
I'll never shake this off. paleotn Tuesday #29
I've been a registered nurse since 1983. markodochartaigh Tuesday #30
Pardon me but Jesus - HOW? I'm at under 20 years of nursing and I'm at the breaking point. Maru Kitteh 20 hrs ago #90
I'm retired now. markodochartaigh 15 hrs ago #116
My wish is that that personally experience everything they voted for. Hassler Tuesday #32
Thoughts & Prayers Pas-de-Calais Tuesday #33
Why would anyone expect you or anyone else Meowmee Tuesday #34
I dont know why they are fearful or concerned. JoeBydun Tuesday #35
The answer is, they didn't think about it Bird Lady Tuesday #36
It is simple choice and consequence.... Dem4life1970 Tuesday #37
Agree... SkylineChili Tuesday #38
Wait until the women who voted for Trump Henry203 Tuesday #39
Same here Rebl2 Tuesday #40
Oh i have sympathy...... but...... getagrip_already Tuesday #41
Same here. I'm all out of fucks to give. GoCubsGo Tuesday #42
I do continue to wish for all .... Peace Bread and Circuses Tuesday #43
I Feel For the Loss Of Cha Tuesday #45
I haven't met anyone meeting that description prodigitalson Tuesday #46
It's coming. They may be giddy on tiktok and church Boomerproud Yesterday #81
Ive been hearing that for years prodigitalson 21 hrs ago #86
Why do you think so? Mariana 20 hrs ago #88
I don't know many R's, and only one interaction with one since the election, Abolishinist 12 hrs ago #121
PS Those who vote Against Cha Tuesday #47
"We told you the leopard would eat your face, but you put your head in the cage anyway!" sakabatou Tuesday #51
I have no sympathy either. Demsrule86 Tuesday #53
No compassion for MAGA voters liberal N proud Tuesday #54
I say let em crash nycbos Tuesday #55
Let's revisit this thread next 4th of July maybe. Give the ShitGibbons a chance NoMoreRepugs Tuesday #56
Not only do I not feel sorry for them Horse with no Name Tuesday #57
We warned them! ChazInAz Tuesday #58
Screw 'em Faygo Kid Tuesday #60
suffering is suffering quaker bill Tuesday #61
A storm is coming that we can't avoid. It will hurt them and us. The sooner the better. Why? Martin Eden Tuesday #65
...... Diamond_Dog Tuesday #78
Most of the fear lies with people who voted Harris HereForTheParty Tuesday #79
Message auto-removed Name removed 23 hrs ago #85
And I wonder if we're going to see a large increase in divorce filings? kimbutgar 19 hrs ago #91
I work with nothing but Trumpers SpankMe 18 hrs ago #94
Whatever happens wryter2000 17 hrs ago #99
Same here wryter2000 17 hrs ago #98
Don't bet on it. W will be updating his infamous quote to include another fool me. Abolishinist 12 hrs ago #120
I am sure at this point the number of people who voted for Trump and are "fearful" are a minuscule minority. Martin68 17 hrs ago #100
I don't feel sorry for them & I'm angry as hell at them, but I don't wish bad things on them either. CrispyQ 17 hrs ago #101
Even once they really begin to have their eyes opened slightlv 17 hrs ago #103
They'll drop dead before they admit they were wrong. NoSheep 16 hrs ago #104
absolutely... agingdem 16 hrs ago #106
I hope they're sweating razor blades. sarge43 16 hrs ago #107
We're at the point of no return now. They helped create this nightmare. Initech 16 hrs ago #109
"What the heck did they think was going to happen??" soldierant 16 hrs ago #110
Agreed DENVERPOPS 16 hrs ago #111
Agreed. It's like a national fog or amnesia settled on half the population and they became liberalla 16 hrs ago #112
Trump approval rating 52 percent Charmin One 16 hrs ago #113
I feel sorry for Kamala voters who will be hurt by Trump, NameAlreadyTaken 16 hrs ago #114
Even if somehow I COULD, I simply refuse to. Montauk6 15 hrs ago #115
A hot-cold wind will blow across America. Aussie105 14 hrs ago #118
they were informed of what it would be like and now they are seeing for themselves dawn5651 13 hrs ago #119

Aviation Pro

(13,449 posts)
1. See my sig line?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:26 PM
Tuesday

It's appropriated from the vast majority of dumbasses who voted for Motherfucker. As long as other people suffer along with them they do not give a flying fuck.

claudette

(4,484 posts)
13. Sad to say
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:38 PM
Tuesday

I can’t even feel sorry for the women who may suffer or die because of Dumpy’s coming abortion ban. Those women who voted for him don’t deserve sympathy.

Walleye

(35,656 posts)
27. My Pop used to say, "well when things go wrong don't come crying to me. I told you so"
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:35 PM
Tuesday

So I just want to tell them, don’t come crying us.
It’s starting look like we baby boomers are finally gonna get that World War III with Russia, been hanging over our heads our whole lives. Danger is always lurking. Just when you think you got something beat it comes back.

lark

(24,149 posts)
95. Them and their families derserve all the hate and destruction that will be rained down on them.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:41 PM
18 hrs ago

No feeling sorry for any magat - get pregnant and die - that's what you fucking voted for. Sending $$ to Russia and getting out of NATO, that's what they voted for. Having no healthcare and no free education - they voted for that! However, almost every Democrat is being hurt by these asses and what they enabled so it's still not even one bit fair.

I hope every Latino who voted for him have their relatives deported and even themselves - because you know they will be deporting citizena as well, because there will be no one to stop them.

What I hate is how much good people are going to be hurt by what the stupidest fuckers among us wrought~ That I hate the worst!!!

City Lights

(25,298 posts)
4. I can't either.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:28 PM
Tuesday

And I don't see myself ever mustering up any empathy for them. I resent them too much for dragging the rest of us down into their sewer.

joshcryer

(62,490 posts)
5. Oh it is my lifeblood.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:29 PM
Tuesday

Oh please, poor, poor souls. Please. Cut it all. Destroy it.

I'm done giving a shit. I have survived worse.

Moostache

(10,161 posts)
6. I truly hope they get EVERYTHING they voted for....EVERY. LAST. THING.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:30 PM
Tuesday

FAFO is in full effect until 2027 now. I have no sympathy left for any Trump voter harmed - because all of my empathy and charity will be 100% directed to his opponents and voters who chose to oppose him (and REMAIN opposed) regardless of potential personal costs...

I hope Joe and Mika both get very sick and learn first hand why their plight is NOTHING compared to anyone that loses insurance access and suffers ANYTHING like what I hope and pray befalls them both, in sequence and drawn out excruciatingly long to maximize the suffering experienced.

yankee87

(2,339 posts)
7. Unreal
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:31 PM
Tuesday

The dictator to be said what he was going to do. We're going to have troops in Blue state streets, or Blue areas in red states. In my youth, had some friends who helped Irish "illegals" get jobs in construction and hospitality mostly in Hamptons area. Now, MAGA morons.
I still can't believe we voted in a guy giving a blow job.

Dulcinea

(7,465 posts)
8. Zero sympathy from me.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:31 PM
Tuesday

But I plan to channel that emotion into working towards a blue wave in 2 years. Once McFelon proves his ineptitude again, and the price of gas & groceries doesn't plummet fast enough for them, people will be ready for change.

claudette

(4,484 posts)
11. I will never feel sorry
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:34 PM
Tuesday

for anyone who voted for the orange felon. They deserve all the suffering they get for giving him the WH

TheProle

(2,960 posts)
12. There is no suffering that Trump can inflict
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:36 PM
Tuesday

that will not equally impact every Harris voter, non-voter and child in this country.

We're 2 weeks past the election now and people need to get back to their goddamn senses.

Your paperclip or blue bracelet won't save you any more than it will a misguided minority Trump voter.

Trueblue Texan

(2,922 posts)
14. Neither the paper clip nor the blue bracelet is meant to save anyone.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 05:56 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:19 AM - Edit history (1)

These items are not a cross representing salvation. They are symbols of solidarity and I am disgusted that people have made an issue of them. Americans have every right to demonstrate solidarity with whatever group they identify with, ESPECIALLY those Americans who have worked their ENTIRE adult lives to fight for the principles that group represents.

TheProle

(2,960 posts)
16. In your rush to be offended, you missed the point
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:00 PM
Tuesday

Trump's assault on America will spare no one, even if you signal your bona fides, so Democrats need to quit wishing ill on others while deluding themselves that it won't blow back on them as well.

Scrivener7

(52,724 posts)
70. I don't think anyone is missing the point that we're all going to suffer. But there's not much we can do about it.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:28 PM
Tuesday

You seem offended that some of us aren't wasting sympathy on those who put us in this position.

You must know something we don't know. So what is it that you are doing that makes you so much more "goddamn sensible" than the rest of us?

Other than making fun of things other Democrats are doing to try to cope a little, of course?

TheProle

(2,960 posts)
72. I guess I'm expressing the opinion
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:34 PM
Tuesday

We don’t beat them by becoming them.

I won’t belabor the point further, but if mainstream Democrats are still in this mindset come midterms, the nightmare will only be prolonged.

dpibel

(3,318 posts)
71. What in the OP is "wishing ill"?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:32 PM
Tuesday

You agree that we are about to experience "Trump's assault on America."

And the OP agrees with you.

What in the OP can you possibly read as "deluding themselves that it won't blow back on them as well"?

It's not there.

Saying, "I have no sympathy for these people" is an entirely different thing than saying, "They're going to get it, but not me."

Or, to put it simply: You seem to be having a problem with a straw OP.

Trueblue Texan

(2,922 posts)
83. I don't know who you think is wishing ill on anyone...
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:15 AM
23 hrs ago

And I am not offended merely by the post above. In case you weren't aware, there is a huge backlash against blue bracelets, as though a symbol of any kind is now offensive. I think it is ridiculous and insulting that the arguments imply those who wear bracelets are now and have been unwilling to put forth any other effort. Your response doesn't seem to address my comment on blue bracelets.

Scrivener7

(52,724 posts)
67. It's something the right wing thinks people on the left are doing, but people on the left really aren't doing it much.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:21 PM
Tuesday

Apparently some Democratic people in red states are wearing blue bracelets to identify themselves to each other.

Magats are denigrating it.

I guess their feelings are hurt.

I have no idea what the paperclip is about. And a google search shows nothing.

cbabe

(4,155 posts)
76. Norwegian resistance symbol during WWII
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:55 PM
Tuesday
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_resistance_movement



The first mass outbreak of civil disobedience occurred in the autumn of 1940, when students of Oslo University began to wear paper clips on their lapels to demonstrate their resistance to the German occupiers and their Norwegian collaborators. A seemingly innocuous item, the paper clip was a symbol of solidarity and unity ("we are bound together&quot , implying resistance. The wearing of paper clips, the popular H7 monogram and similar symbols (red garments, Bobble hats) was outlawed and could lead to arrest and punishment.

… more …

Ligyron

(7,890 posts)
92. Heck yeah thank you!
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:29 PM
18 hrs ago

I've been wondering what I was missing with the paperclip but was too shy in asking. Like I was supposed to know that for some reason. I mean, the blue bracelet is obvious and would be to a MAGA goon too.

cbabe

(4,155 posts)
93. You're welcome. I have insatiable curiosity, like the elephant's child. I say pretend you're not shy and ask away.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:32 PM
18 hrs ago

Trueblue Texan

(2,922 posts)
84. It's not just the right wingers that are denigrating the blue bracelet symbol...
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:17 AM
23 hrs ago

...There are a lot of folks in progressive circles who have picked up the argument. I think it's a propaganda ploy to divide us and it's discouraging to see progressives jump on that bandwagon.

Scrivener7

(52,724 posts)
117. I just continue to wear my Harris Walz buttons on everything. And will for the next 4 years. It prevents confusion.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 03:30 PM
15 hrs ago

But I live in a blue area. If I were in a Magatville, I would be very grateful for some sign that would show me who was NOT gunning for my uterus, and for my Black and gay and trans friends and family.

TheKentuckian

(26,181 posts)
19. I'm not going back. Some folks chose to be enemies
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:16 PM
Tuesday

so they will have that and more.

I hope Kushner names the first hotel the Nakba Arms.

LuvLoogie

(7,542 posts)
50. The Harris voters ARE his targets.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:16 PM
Tuesday

We voted for the benefit of all and against the bigotry and grift. His voters unleashed his bigoted malevolence. THEY will be caught up in it, despite their thinking they're exempt. For THAT they get no sympathy. Quit gas lighting.

Bettie

(17,062 posts)
52. And that is why I will have no sympathy for his voters
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:19 PM
Tuesday

they voted for him because they wanted to see others hurting or worse. They voted based on hate and bigotry.

So, when the leopards eat their faces, I don't really care, they voted for it, they literally voted for it.

Ilikepurple

(100 posts)
62. I'm just glad we have enough sensible men here to put us in our places
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:55 PM
Tuesday

Yes, everybody is going to feel the effects. Yes, no magic protective properties have been claimed by either paper clip or blue bracelet. Neither are related to OP nor what you believe our needs are. There’s a segment of this board that can’t make a point without dictating behavior or thought, generally in a manner a husband might his wife in a black and white movie. I don’t think my “goddamn senses” are going to save me any more than those bracelets.

TheProle

(2,960 posts)
63. Not putting anyone in their place
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:03 PM
Tuesday

Please feel free to be as vindictive as you like. I’m sure it will serve the Greater Good.

Ilikepurple

(100 posts)
80. You could have made your point without telling anyone what their needs are
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:11 AM
Yesterday

Or that their thoughts were devoid of common sense. You could have responded in the space of reasons, but instead said “no I’m didn’t” and impugned my motive. There was nothing vindictive in my response nor was there any hint that I agree with vindictive behavior. Why call me vindictive and add the sarcasm? We discuss things here and unreasoned attempts to stop discussion draw my attention. If you seek unity and empathy for the sake of the Party or have some other ideal the OP runs against, maybe say what it is. “We're 2 weeks past the election now and people need to get back to their goddamn senses.” It’s really not how people generally speak to perceived equals. You are a productive and informative member of this group I look forward to seeing more of your posts. I just didn’t like this one’s tone and chose to say something.

Bettie

(17,062 posts)
68. And thinking kind thoughts about the people who CHOSE this
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:23 PM
Tuesday

won't make us safe from it. We know that nothing is likely to save us.

They chose this for us, thinking that somehow, they would not be impacted.

They want us harmed. They actively wish us harm. They want minorities rounded up and sent...somewhere.

Why should we have sympathy for them? I see no reason.

Mountain Mule

(1,031 posts)
75. I could not agree more!
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:47 PM
Tuesday

They knew exactly what they voted for. They voted to kill me and millions of other Americans by repealing the ACA and Medicaid. They voted to render the Federal government completely ineffective thanks to the tactics of shitstain and his co-president Elon. Why should I feel sympathetic toward murderers and those who prefer chaos over democracy. I hope the price of eggs raises so far that a scrambled egg becomes equivalent to the price of prime rib and lobster. I'll happily eat gruel just to watch them suffer.

Crunchy Frog

(26,973 posts)
17. Hell, for me it's the one silver lining to this whole shitshow.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:04 PM
Tuesday

Leopards eating the faces of people who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces party.

GB_RN

(3,154 posts)
20. I Ran Out Of Sympathy For Them...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:25 PM
Tuesday

A long, long time ago.

I have to bite my tongue when I go to a patient’s room and they’ve got goddamned Rupert Murdoch’s Fox Propaganda on. I wish the hospital would block that shit.

Skittles

(159,240 posts)
28. the price of eggs thing is pretty condescending
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:36 PM
Tuesday

a LOT of things are too expensive

problem is, repukes DO NOT FUCKING CARE and will not do ANYTHING to help them

yardwork

(64,318 posts)
102. Republicans don't believe in diseases.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:29 PM
17 hrs ago

They don't believe in pandemics or climate change or women dying in childbirth. They don't believe in disabilities. They don't believe that brave people get killed or injured in war. They make fun of all these things and call it "woke."

Republicans live in a world of magical thinking, where Democrats make up problems. Without Democrats, Republicans believe all these problems will magically disappear.

They're toddlers.

La Coliniere

(848 posts)
25. When Oz an the felon take away
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:34 PM
Tuesday

their health care and their insurance companies kick them off their policies for preexisting conditions I will not care at all. It’s so unfortunate and cruel that we will be suffering along with them when the ax falls. With health care in this country it’s always one step forward, but now it’s 3 steps backwards and off the friggin’ cliff!

Demobrat

(9,789 posts)
26. Fear? I don't see any fear.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:35 PM
Tuesday

Granted, I don’t have a lot of contact with MAGAts. All I know is what little I see online.

But all I do see is anticipatory glee over deportations and insistence that foreign countries pay tariffs.

They’re not scared yet.

Mariana

(15,093 posts)
44. Is it a lot?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:59 PM
Tuesday

I've seen some stories where they quote a few people. I don't see any indication that a significant number of Trump voters regret their votes.

Maru Kitteh

(29,085 posts)
89. Some Arab and Muslim leaders* have expressed "concern" that their man Trump
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:29 AM
20 hrs ago

might not have their best interests at heart after all.




*MALE leaders



Solomon

(12,470 posts)
82. Thankyou. I've been wondering where the idea comes from that magats are regretting their vote.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 05:26 AM
Yesterday


Nothing has happened to them yet.

Mariana

(15,093 posts)
87. This reminds me of all the predictions here before the election
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:18 AM
20 hrs ago

about how the white Evangelical Christians were turning away from Trump. That didn't happen, either.

prodigitalson

(2,884 posts)
96. What is amazing is the passion with which some are refusing to have sympathy for these non-existent people
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:55 PM
18 hrs ago

paleotn

(19,177 posts)
122. The cult? Not hardly. They like this shit. But the cult didn't elect him.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 06:45 PM
12 hrs ago

It's the mushy middle that did. The people who don't pay attention much to politics. People in NC who thought Robinson was too crazy, voted for Stein, but also voted for Trump for amorphous reasons they can't rationally express. AOC voters in her district that also voted for Trump. Low info voters not in the cult. Seems they're about 1/3 of the electorate and they just didn't like what we had to sell. Same as people buying Chevys back in the day we they know damn well that Honda Accords are vastly superior. People are weird.

Mariana

(15,093 posts)
123. I still haven't seen any evidence that "a lot" of Trump voters regret their votes.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 06:59 PM
12 hrs ago

Maybe they will, eventually. Maybe not. To have voted for him at all means they must have been in some kind of echo chamber, whether it was cable TV "news" or RW radio or their churches or their friend groups or whatever. Are they likely to get out of those echo chambers?

paleotn

(19,177 posts)
124. Google search term data just after the election. Look into that.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:03 PM
10 hrs ago

To be honest, we can also be accused of living in an echo chamber of sorts. We also, sometimes, think the world thinks exactly like us or what we perceive. Same for the cult. It doesn't. Human nature to do so and grossly inaccurate. Why did the middle vote like they did? That will be the subject of volumes for years to come. But it's not because they're all racist and fascist. Dumb and uninformed, maybe. Amurkins are well known for that.

One of my personal culprits is Merrick Garland. Perhaps the most inept AG in American history. He let this shit stew. He let the propaganda machine run and run when he had more than enough reason to investigate, charge and prosecute starting from the time he took office. He did nothing until it was too late. We should have been talking about Jack Smith in 2021.

paleotn

(19,177 posts)
29. I'll never shake this off.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:37 PM
Tuesday

Sorry, character flaw I suppose, but I cannot let shit like this slide. Fuck 'em. They deserve all the pain they get.

markodochartaigh

(2,056 posts)
30. I've been a registered nurse since 1983.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:37 PM
Tuesday

I feel sorry for people who have lung cancer, whether they got it from smoking or from radon in the ground around their home.

I feel sorry for people with half of their face shot off, whether they botched their suicide attempt or whether they were assaulted.

I feel sorry for people paralyzed from the neck down, whether it is because they were driving drunk and had a car wreck, or whether they fell off a scaffold at work.

And when I see someone whose significant other is being deported, or who is homeless because they lost their Social Security, or jobless because the economy was sucked dry by hedge funds and vulture capitalists, I will feel compassion for them.

But there are people whom you can help and people upon whom help is wasted. I can feel empathy for someone's situation even while knowing that there is nothing that I can do for them,except thoughts and prayers, of course.

Maru Kitteh

(29,085 posts)
90. Pardon me but Jesus - HOW? I'm at under 20 years of nursing and I'm at the breaking point.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:39 AM
20 hrs ago

Are you still in bedside? How have you survived?

markodochartaigh

(2,056 posts)
116. I'm retired now.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 03:24 PM
15 hrs ago

I always did bedside, or staff nurse level, nursing. I have Asperger's so management was definitely not an option.

It was mentally, physically, and emotionally exhausting. I worked in a very large (more than 1,000 beds) public hospital. Much of the time I would change units every year or two. I did about five years in the float pool (which really hurt my pension, because the float pool weren't covered by the pension). Also the hospital took over the care of the inmates in the county jail (6,000 inmates) and I did triage for people being booked into the jail for about seven years.

I think that moving between areas was a big help in maintaining my sanity. Also, being gay and with Asperger's and being raised in Amarillo Texas a half century ago, I was used to being bullied absolutely every day with absolutely no support from the school staff. I think the fact that I expected no support from management and expected to always be considered in the wrong helped me a great deal in nursing. I realized that conflicts were not about right or wrong, but were about the people involved, and that as a staff nurse, I was automatically in the wrong. Knowing that I was always in the wrong freed me to do the best that I could and not care what others were going to say. It may seem perverse, but I think that most bedside nurses will understand.

I would also offer a bit of advice. When you finally get to retirement, work at least a couple of days a month. It is extremely difficult to get a nursing job when you are old and have no recent clinical experience and a bit of extra income would come in handy.

I wish you the best.

Meowmee

(5,467 posts)
34. Why would anyone expect you or anyone else
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:41 PM
Tuesday

To “feel” for them? I’m worried about myself and my family and those who didn’t vote for that murderer. Those who voted for this caused this and need to have their heads examined. There’s no doubt about that. Maybe some of them should have their voting rights taken away for good as they obviously don’t have the ability for thinking logically about what would happen.

I do hope that the worst things that could happen will not happen and the first concern of mine is a collapse of the economy. There are so many other concerns I can’t list them all here, but that is number one.

JoeBydun

(33 posts)
35. I dont know why they are fearful or concerned.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:43 PM
Tuesday

This is what they voted for. They were warned but still voted in the orange menace. I unironically hopes he passes all his policies so they can see the full scale of the demon they voted in. It seems they need to learn the hard way!

Bird Lady

(1,913 posts)
36. The answer is, they didn't think about it
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:44 PM
Tuesday

because they don't know how to think. They are going to think about it once the camps open and they are hauled in by the truck load. He is going to make them hurt and hurt bad. Then they will cry and blame it all on the democrats and Joe Biden.
I will gather their tears in a fancy glass and drink them with glee. Schadenfreude

Dem4life1970

(426 posts)
37. It is simple choice and consequence....
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:46 PM
Tuesday

...we should stop trying to rescue people from their consequences (votes). They want to burn the country down, go for it. Let's see how you govern.

Give Trump no credit for anything. Think about it. He won by lying about everything. He lied about the economy and the right wing propaganda machine echoed his lies. He lied about everything, so let's give him zero credit for anything. Highlight the wrong, and if you can't do what he did, just don't say anything about anything good that he does.

SkylineChili

(35 posts)
38. Agree...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:48 PM
Tuesday

Zero Fucks to Give. I know we will all suffer with Trump and his minions in power, but I will not waste a single breath feeling sorry for anyone who voted for him who is deported, marginalized, financially compromised, dies, etc. Zero fucks to give for them. Abuela is deported? so sorry. Arab family rounded up? too bad, so sad. Maga daughter bleeding out from an incomplete miscarriage? Oooo, that's tragic. My sympathy will be with those who voted blue and got caught up in the madness despite their best efforts.

Henry203

(53 posts)
39. Wait until the women who voted for Trump
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:48 PM
Tuesday

and abortion rights see them disappear when they enact a nationwide ban. I bet most don’t know federal law eliminates the state law.

getagrip_already

(17,430 posts)
41. Oh i have sympathy...... but......
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:52 PM
Tuesday

I have more important things to put my energy into.

I have sympathy for lots of people. I have sympathy for the poor rusdian bastatds who are pushed onto meat wave attacks against ukraine - they dont stand a chance. I just dont have any fuchs left to give.

I have sympathy for immigrants who work hard, live lawfully, and just want to raise their families in peace. I have far less when they turn around and vote to take rights they enjoy away from those that would follow behind them. People just like them in every way imaginable, except they arent yet citizens.

So i will put my energy where it can do some good. Others can fend any way they can.




Bread and Circuses

(165 posts)
43. I do continue to wish for all .... Peace
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 06:57 PM
Tuesday

I do intentions of loving kindness and send these vibrations to all….and ask that those who are fearful or angry open their hearts to receive love and compassion.

It’s what I do. It’s who I am and it’s why I am.

Years ago, I learned that I am one who carried the oil for the lamp.

It is difficult, the road hard and my body is weary and sustenance does not always sustain me through the light-less times. But here I am, I keep gathering myself. Touching my sacredness and breathe into my humanity.

I do not surrender.

In Beauty I Walk, All Day Long!

prodigitalson

(2,884 posts)
46. I haven't met anyone meeting that description
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:03 PM
Tuesday

they're all downright giddy around here.

one did say she didn't want flouride taken out of the water, but otherwise she's giddy as the rest...'god answered our prayers' they say

Mariana

(15,093 posts)
88. Why do you think so?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:23 AM
20 hrs ago

Everything bad that happens is always someone else's fault, or it's fake news, or whatever. They have never blamed him for anything. Why do you think they're suddenly going to start now? It's a freaking cult.

Abolishinist

(1,961 posts)
121. I don't know many R's, and only one interaction with one since the election,
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 06:11 PM
12 hrs ago

but my guess it's just like you stated. They're too ignorant/uninformed to have any fears, especially this early on.

Cha

(305,385 posts)
47. PS Those who vote Against
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:08 PM
Tuesday

Their best interests and then sorry after handing over our Country to fucking DICTATORS Get NOTHING

ChazInAz

(2,778 posts)
58. We warned them!
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:39 PM
Tuesday

They were bad "winners" in 2016.
Terrible lovers in 2020.
Gloating, vicious shitheads in 2024.
So no...no sympathy.

quaker bill

(8,233 posts)
61. suffering is suffering
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 07:54 PM
Tuesday

people make stupid decisions all the time and suffer consequences. The suffering is not less because they stupidly chose a wrong path. One can resent having to share in it, but that will not make it better for anyone.

BTW, prices are already going up in anticipation of the coming tariffs. In short, businesses charge to recover the price of replacing inventory. When they know the cost to replace inventory is going up or expect it to go up, they charge whatever they need to replace it. So prices are already going up.

Martin Eden

(13,458 posts)
65. A storm is coming that we can't avoid. It will hurt them and us. The sooner the better. Why?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 08:04 PM
Tuesday

The sooner they feel pain they recognize is a consequence of their vote, the more likely Democrats can retake the House and/or Senate in 2024.

Assuming a legitimate election will still be possible.

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

kimbutgar

(23,254 posts)
91. And I wonder if we're going to see a large increase in divorce filings?
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:43 AM
19 hrs ago

Because some of those crazies in the repuke party want to do away with no fault divorces.

SpankMe

(3,242 posts)
94. I work with nothing but Trumpers
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:40 PM
18 hrs ago

I know of none, so far, who are fearful or who regret their vote based on newly emerging information. Most are doubling down on what's going on and making excuses for the cabinet picks. We are in a new era of Nazism.

Martin68

(24,597 posts)
100. I am sure at this point the number of people who voted for Trump and are "fearful" are a minuscule minority.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:15 PM
17 hrs ago

They got what they wanted, and Fox News et al will blame any setbacks on Democrats, gays, women, minorities, immigrants, etc.

CrispyQ

(38,238 posts)
101. I don't feel sorry for them & I'm angry as hell at them, but I don't wish bad things on them either.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:22 PM
17 hrs ago

There was a 90s bumper sticker that came out after the Reagan years, IF YOU THINK EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE, TRY IGNORANCE. The right has been focused on boards of education across the country since the 80s. ALL POLITICS IS LOCAL. That's a bumper sticker our side should have paid more attention to.

slightlv

(4,325 posts)
103. Even once they really begin to have their eyes opened
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 01:45 PM
17 hrs ago

as their pocketbooks are robbed, as well as their healthcare, etc., I'm STILL not going to feel sorry for them. They did it simply to "own the libs"... what a stupid foundation upon which to cast your damned vote! Except that everyone else who *didn't* vote for him is going to be feeling the same pain, I'd be laughing hysterically at them. Period.

agingdem

(8,541 posts)
106. absolutely...
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:40 PM
16 hrs ago

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and to be honest I am tired of carrying the burden of the idiots too stupid to set aside their personal biases and vote for the greater good... as Democrats we tend to think because the demographic is multicultural/multi-ethnic/inclusive we are without hate...but that's not true...within our collective "kumbaya" there is racism/antisemitism,/misogyny/anti-gay bigotry....and after almost seven decades of marching/donating/knocking on doors I'm done...

I'm now a lawn chair observer of the coming Trump train wreck...when Latino Trump voters are begging someone to stop the round up and deportation of family members don't look to me for help...when middle class Trump voting women and their young daughters have to carry and give birth to their rapists babies don't look at me for help...when polio/diphtheria/mumps/measles/small pox stampede thru classrooms don't look to me for help...buyers remorse is a bitch...

soldierant

(7,892 posts)
110. "What the heck did they think was going to happen??"
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:48 PM
16 hrs ago

Your mistake there is the assumption that they think.

DENVERPOPS

(9,949 posts)
111. Agreed
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:54 PM
16 hrs ago

they need a brain to think.......I wonder what they will "THINK" when they realize that by voting THIS time around, they have outgrown their usefulness an will be thrown under the bus like they have done to all us in opposition years ago....

Hey........They grew it, they can chew it.......

liberalla

(10,015 posts)
112. Agreed. It's like a national fog or amnesia settled on half the population and they became
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:56 PM
16 hrs ago

non-thinking turnips. Amidst my own anxiety and stress I will admit to experiencing a bit of pleasure at their current fear, just because they ignored so much to vote for him... and brought it on themselves.

... and of course, US too!


Charmin One

(182 posts)
113. Trump approval rating 52 percent
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:58 PM
16 hrs ago

That might be an all time high. Most Trump voters are unaware of the damage he will do

NameAlreadyTaken

(1,511 posts)
114. I feel sorry for Kamala voters who will be hurt by Trump,
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 02:59 PM
16 hrs ago

but I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for Trump voters who will be hurt by Trump. Either they knew exactly what they were voting for and still voted for it, or else they didn't know what they were voting for - and that's their own fault. Zero sympathy whatsoever for those poor fools.

Aussie105

(6,254 posts)
118. A hot-cold wind will blow across America.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 04:19 PM
14 hrs ago

Those who voted for it and thought it would bring them happiness and joy, and the untold riches of the land, will face it and be burnt by it.
Those who fear its harm will seek shelter and be saved.

In short, let them carry on in their delusional state. But protect yourself!

How to protect yourself?

Stock up of non perishables, look closer to home for safety and security, get off the propaganda machines like most social media, all mainstream media, and give Republicans a metaphorical middle finger when you come across them.
Do not engage with them, whoever they are, do not try reason and logic, they are beyond that.

Look not at the past, have no regrets, what is done is done, only the future has hope.
And that hope is something you have to build for yourself, inside you, so not look for it in the world around you. It cannot be found there.

My hopeful thought for today:
Trump is old, has a long history of unhealthy eating and supposed drug taking.
Soon he will cease to be a viable living entity.

And then his followers will be in disarray, left without their cult leader.
They have no one with the inclination or skills to take over the Presidency. Only followers.
(Imagine if Hitler had died years before his own personal Final Solution.)

dawn5651

(653 posts)
119. they were informed of what it would be like and now they are seeing for themselves
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 05:13 PM
13 hrs ago

what is going to be in place in washington. my heart goes out to those who didn't vote for this they are going to
feel the pain of what the orange asshole is doing and is going to do.

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