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Amaryllis

(9,809 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:26 PM Tuesday

How to Combat the Dangers of Project 2025 (Democracy Docket-) VERY HOPEFUL MUST READ

Democracy Docket is Mark Elias' org. Go to the link and read the whole thing! This will make you feel a lot better:

“Repeatedly throughout the Project 2025 chapters, they say to just move forward, go ahead and implement and worry about defending it in court later,” Simon said. “Expect legal challenges, because they know what they’re doing is unlawful.”

That’s exactly what Skye Perryman, president and CEO of the nonpartisan legal and public policy research nonprofit Democracy Forward, is ready for. Under Perryman’s leadership, Democracy Forward organized Democracy 2025 — a coalition of hundreds of lawyers from 280 different organizations to fight Project 2025 and the coming Trump administration in the courts.

“There’s a range of policies in Project 2025, and that the President-Elect has announced, that he’s seeking to pursue that we believe suffer from legal infirmities, and believe that legal challenges are going to be important,” Perryman told Democracy Docket. “There will be swift and robust legal opposition to some of the most destructive policies of Project 2025. That would include things like seeking to undermine our civil service, including trying to reimpose Schedule F.”

Unlike the first Trump administration, where many organizations like Democracy Forward were caught off guard by Trump’s win and initially unprepared to fight his policies in the courts, Perryman said that Democracy Forward has been quietly preparing for years for a second Trump administration. The coalition in Democracy 2025 is already gearing up to go to court to fight for environmental protections, reproductive rights, health care and a slew of other policies set forth by President Joe Biden’s administration.

The question that remains, though, is how the courts will rule in whatever legal challenges arise. Despite the conservative supermajority in the U.S. Supreme Court and the army of judges Trump appointed in his first term, Perryman is confident about the state of the judiciary.

“President Biden has appointed more than 200 pro-democracy judges since 2021,” she said. “The federal courts on day one of the second Trump administration are much better than they were on the last day of the first Trump administration.”

Much more at link:
https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/how-to-combat-the-dangers-of-project-2025/?utm_source=Democracy+Docket+Newsletters&utm_campaign=9a14ac6c95-20241119_DailyDocket_LF&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-9812d8a903-607128647&mc_cid=9a14ac6c95&mc_eid=4dc776a419

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How to Combat the Dangers of Project 2025 (Democracy Docket-) VERY HOPEFUL MUST READ (Original Post) Amaryllis Tuesday OP
Recommended. H2O Man Tuesday #1
You are so welcome! It's a good counter for despair. Amaryllis Tuesday #2
Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Downloaded. Hekate Tuesday #3
Same! calimary Yesterday #12
KNR and bookmarking for later. niyad Tuesday #4
First Off I Bookmarked This.. Thank YOU! Cha Tuesday #5
About the courts pfitz59 Tuesday #6
So glad Marc is focusing his time and resources on this. Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #7
Great to know. I was already donating on a monthly basis before I knew about this. summer_in_TX Tuesday #8
Thanks, Amaryllis! Talitha Yesterday #9
K&R ReRe Yesterday #10
Bookmarking this so I don't lose track of it. calimary Yesterday #11
K&R.nt jfz9580m Yesterday #13
I hope that there is an army of patriotic civil servants prepare to not obey illegal orders and that they have attorneys Jit423 23 hrs ago #14
Oath to defend and protect the Constitution ... SomewhereInTheMiddle 22 hrs ago #15
K&R brer cat 22 hrs ago #16
Presupposes the existence of the rule of law John Shaft 22 hrs ago #17
But the Supremes Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #18
This is good, but I still worry about SCOTUS. D23MIURG23 19 hrs ago #19

summer_in_TX

(3,206 posts)
8. Great to know. I was already donating on a monthly basis before I knew about this.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:46 PM
Tuesday

They have excellent material on Project 2025.

Jit423

(276 posts)
14. I hope that there is an army of patriotic civil servants prepare to not obey illegal orders and that they have attorneys
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 07:25 AM
23 hrs ago

ready to fight for them in court. Most are gone from government now, having retired or transitioned on but there used to be an unspoken resistance to political appointments trying run roughshod over experienced, dedicated and patriotic civil servants back in the day when I worked for the Feds. They knew how to keep government rolling for the sake of the people they served, especially in the areas of Social Security, Medicaid, small business, military services. I knew many Fed employees who worked over time without pay to get things done. They also knew about the fraud and deception of political appointees and many lost their job blowing the whistle and were unknown to the general public and the media. Some IGs (Inspector Generals) had their careers ruined because they reported the truth of their investigative findings. People will never know the extent of the fraud and corruption of political appointees inside government.

Were all civil servants great at their jobs and honest employees who were loyal to their oaths? NO! But the vast majority of those I knew and worked with were good, honest, decent employees. And as in almost every work situation, their good bosses and managers and there are those who are not. There was racism, misogyny, nepotism, protectionism, spying and all the rest. But on balance, the lower rank employees did their work for the people they served.

I think there will be too much fear of repercussions as Trump administration takes control. Many of the protections that civil servants had in the past have been eliminated so there will be less and less willingness to risk whistleblowing and in all likelihood there will be little help from the IG cadre across the government. Hoping for the best.

15. Oath to defend and protect the Constitution ...
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:28 AM
22 hrs ago

When I talk about people who have made that oath standing up to fulfil it being the only ones that can save the day now, I am talking about the civil service as much or more than the military.

Especially with the idiots Trump seems determined to appoint to lead the executive branch, it will take the passive and active resistance of the career government workers to stop their worst excesses and folly, and some may lose their jobs. As disheartening as I imagine it will be in Trump's administration, many people may be looking to leave government service anyway. I hope they will do some good for the nation on their way out.

Good luck to them all.

D23MIURG23

(3,083 posts)
19. This is good, but I still worry about SCOTUS.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 11:21 AM
19 hrs ago

In a second Trump term I guess we'll see how low they are willing to go.

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