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hunter

(38,919 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:26 AM 19 hrs ago

Los Angeles declares itself an immigration 'sanctuary'

Los Angeles, the second largest US city, is setting itself up for a standoff with President-elect Donald Trump over immigration.

On Tuesday, its city council passed a "sanctuary city" ordinance to bar using local resources to help federal immigration authorities.

LA's public school system also reaffirmed itself as a "sanctuary" for undocumented immigrants and LGBTQ students in a series of emergency resolutions.

Trump, who will be sworn in in two months, has promised mass deportations once he returns to the White House. His chosen "border czar", Tim Homan, has urged sanctuary cities to "get the hell out of the way" of federal immigration crackdowns.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gx7rd4nj7o


This will be happening in a lot of places, which will be good in places that actually protect immigrants, but bad in places where threats of deportation and the actual targeted deportation of immigrant activists will be used to further abuse immigrant workers.

I'm hoping California and other Democratic states are going to be sand in the engines of Trump's despicable machine.
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Los Angeles declares itself an immigration 'sanctuary' (Original Post) hunter 19 hrs ago OP
I really hope there is no backlash to this. Omnipresent 19 hrs ago #1
Texas will send all their migrants to Los Angeles. jimfields33 18 hrs ago #5
Of course they are sending migrants there. Omnipresent 18 hrs ago #8
It won't. California is fifth riches economy in the world jimfields33 18 hrs ago #9
I hope your right. Omnipresent 18 hrs ago #11
And, it can continue to send federal money to red states. JustABozoOnThisBus 18 hrs ago #19
then texas will have to figure out how to pick crops. finish constrution. etc , no? AllaN01Bear 18 hrs ago #10
Probably. But that should not be the reason to be jimfields33 18 hrs ago #13
Actually, the job market in Texas is quite good. Elessar Zappa 18 hrs ago #15
California isn't going to turn red but we will pass tough on crime laws JI7 18 hrs ago #16
With what happened in the last election, i'm not so sure. Omnipresent 18 hrs ago #17
Good luck with that DeepWinter 19 hrs ago #2
Huh? It doesn't cost anything to give trump's goons and sycophants the cold shoulder. hunter 18 hrs ago #12
Migrants should all think about moving to states like California and Illinois that are welcoming and protecting them MichMan 18 hrs ago #3
Abbot is chartering the buses already LA Ponietz 18 hrs ago #4
It seems a safer bet for migrants than staying in Texas. jimfields33 18 hrs ago #7
That might not be the best idea flamingdem 18 hrs ago #6
I don't live in Los Angeles, but our city has a large and obvious homeless population too. hunter 18 hrs ago #18
This is the type of useless shit our side does JI7 18 hrs ago #14
The fuck it's not. hunter 17 hrs ago #21
Dems need to develop winning messages flamingdem 15 hrs ago #22
Bravo for my old home town. The Statue of Liberty moved to downtown L.A. Ping Tung 17 hrs ago #20
LA, Boston, NYC & Chicago. Plenty of room and willing local populaces to take care of them. Bonx 15 hrs ago #23

Omnipresent

(6,342 posts)
1. I really hope there is no backlash to this.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:33 AM
19 hrs ago

We really don’t need California to turn Red, from voter outrage in 2026 or 2028.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
5. Texas will send all their migrants to Los Angeles.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:19 AM
18 hrs ago

They’ve been doing that around the country in cities that have said they will accept migrants as they are a sactuary city. I think they should work with the migrants and bring success to the city and migrants. I don’t think you should be a sactuary city and then complain that you have received the very idea you support. Seems mean. Should not be a half ass measure.

Omnipresent

(6,342 posts)
8. Of course they are sending migrants there.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:29 AM
18 hrs ago

California won’t be getting any aid from the trump administration.
California going it alone, will sapp funds from other programs.
In turn you can expect voter backlash at the ballot box to some degree.
Nobody wants to see California in the Republican column.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
9. It won't. California is fifth riches economy in the world
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:33 AM
18 hrs ago

It definitely can handle additional migrants who are in need.

Omnipresent

(6,342 posts)
11. I hope your right.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:36 AM
18 hrs ago

The folks on the right are skilled at sewing resentment against anyone they don’t like.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,762 posts)
19. And, it can continue to send federal money to red states.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:02 AM
18 hrs ago

Texas government appreciates the help with the bus fares.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
13. Probably. But that should not be the reason to be
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:39 AM
18 hrs ago

against this. California is doing the right thing accepting migrants who otherwise would get killed in their country and not really have a future in Texas at all.

Elessar Zappa

(15,885 posts)
15. Actually, the job market in Texas is quite good.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:47 AM
18 hrs ago

That’s no an excuse for them to bus all their migrants to California.

JI7

(90,521 posts)
16. California isn't going to turn red but we will pass tough on crime laws
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:47 AM
18 hrs ago

and vote in more tough on crime officials.

Omnipresent

(6,342 posts)
17. With what happened in the last election, i'm not so sure.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:53 AM
18 hrs ago

We seem to be living in very turbulent times.

DeepWinter

(464 posts)
2. Good luck with that
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 08:34 AM
19 hrs ago

"According to the city administrative officer, Los Angeles has a projected budget deficit of $476 million dollars, which is made up of $289 million in overspending and $187 million in less than expected revenues."

https://abc7.com/los-angeles-budget-deficit-city-controller-kenneth-mejia-audit/14623710/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20city%20administrative,in%20less%20than%20expected%20revenues.

They don't have the money for that. They need Fed money and with Trump coming in you KNOW it won't be there. And that's on top of LAs homeless issues which are under funded as well. Would love to know where they think sanctuary funding is coming from. Hollywood elites in Beverly Hills and gated communities aren't coughing it up.

hunter

(38,919 posts)
12. Huh? It doesn't cost anything to give trump's goons and sycophants the cold shoulder.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:38 AM
18 hrs ago

Assisting them will actually cost money that our police and social service departments don't have.

Trump doesn't even want to pay for existing social programs so he's got nothing to bargain with. He'll probably do something idiotic like sending useless military equipment and Tesla vehicles to local law enforcement which won't make their jobs any easier. But I guess they'll look cool in their Cybertrucks at community fairs until the vehicles start rotting away from neglect in the back parking lots and impound yards.

In the last round of Trump follies our county imagined they might depend on the Federal government to reduce overcrowding in our jails by taking actual criminal immigrants off their hands. Turns out trump is all bluster and chaos.

Unfortunately bluster and chaos are dangerous too.

MichMan

(13,156 posts)
3. Migrants should all think about moving to states like California and Illinois that are welcoming and protecting them
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:10 AM
18 hrs ago

The risk of not doing so isn't worth it.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
7. It seems a safer bet for migrants than staying in Texas.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:23 AM
18 hrs ago

If I were a migrant, I’d hop that bus. Texas you’d end up in a camp. Los Angeles, you’d have a place to stay, food and a little spending money. Sounds like an obvious choice.

There really shouldn’t be any negative to this.

flamingdem

(39,912 posts)
6. That might not be the best idea
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:19 AM
18 hrs ago

LA has a tremendous homeless problem.

Where is the housing for the immigrants fleeing other states?

hunter

(38,919 posts)
18. I don't live in Los Angeles, but our city has a large and obvious homeless population too.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:59 AM
18 hrs ago

Most of the homeless people I encounter daily are unemployable for mental health issues or substance abuse, not because they are immigrants who can't find work. Living on the streets makes mental health and substance abuse problems much worse.

Immigrants, documented or not, tend to find work and housing. Unfortunately a lot of that housing is overcrowded, uncomfortable, and too often unsafe -- illegal garage conversions, decrepit motor homes and campers parked in back yards, entire families living in a single bedroom, etc..

JI7

(90,521 posts)
14. This is the type of useless shit our side does
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 09:45 AM
18 hrs ago

It always seems to be about wanting to make a huge public show about how pure you are.

hunter

(38,919 posts)
21. The fuck it's not.
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 10:22 AM
17 hrs ago

It's a practical response to a very real problem.

Yeah, there are affluent and wealthy people who live isolated from the problem, who've never had a homeless person shit on their front doorstep, who are making a public show of "purity."

Nevertheless our federal government needs to put up or shut up. Democratic administrations do everything they can to put up.

Republican administrations just make a lot of noise. The only value of homeless people to them is to instill fear in know-nothing voters and those who suffer abusive working conditions. They don't want to do a damned thing about the actual horrors of homelessness.

Wasting time, money, and resources on Republican dog and pony shows isn't going to solve any problems. It's going to make them worse.

Every positive thing the Democratic Party accomplishes will be framed by the disgusting Republicans as something worse. We don't have to amplify their voices.

flamingdem

(39,912 posts)
22. Dems need to develop winning messages
Wed Nov 20, 2024, 12:18 PM
15 hrs ago

to counter the mediasphere depiction of blue cities, especially in California, as lenient and full of crime and dirty people.

Clearly we're going to lose on "illegal immigration" in general. The right associates that with chaos and crime.

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