of them was even close enough to recount. This country voted and elections have consequences. Now we all get to pay the price, collectively.

... and I have seen it move from a strong, "honest" purple state to one that was manipulated step by step, starting with Scott Walker and the Koch brothers' financial support. To a likely red state with each federal election. We were the test tube that led the way to other states being manipulated.

Please don't ask me how I know. I have lived through it, with each little step leading to targeting the following link that needs to be broken. It is only through retrospect that I can now see the whole picture.

Here is an example. The powers of change made one former lumberjack a congressman by gerrymandering Wisconsin's seventh congressional district. A few short elections later, Trump nominated him as the Secretary of Transportation. His only knowledge of transportation is from his moves from northern Wisconsin to central Wisconsin to Washington DC to Fox News and now to the White House Cabinet.

I do realize that fighting back against "stolen" elections is a difficult job. It is simple to brush aside each one of us who plead for it to happen by simply discounting our concern with "show us your evidence."

..... make it close, but DO NOT send up red flags.

Here are my favorite current examples of highly complex software routines that make the once impossible now possible.

And one programmer didn't design all the machines and didn't penetrate all the machines that aren't connected to the internet. Trump gained in 90% of the counties in America. Your conspiracy would have had to involve thousands of Democratic election officials to come to pass.

It's sad that you are falling for this nonsense. I expected better.

...where they have been slaving like stevedores since at least the '90s to drag the state farther and farther to the right. The Bradley Foundation (along with a few other "think" tanks) played a crucial role in pushing through the disastrous school-voucher experiment in Milwaukee. They were aided by some very reactionary groups in the Catholic Church which also lobbied for the voucher program. There's a really good book about the corrupting effects of all that right-wing money on education in Wisconsin. Years ago, one of the local Wisconsin nonprofits published The Feeding Trough. It's not easy to find, but it should be available through a library loan.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219521978#post7

It may land softer on the psyche to call it theft, I grant you, but election denialism on the left is every BIT as destructive and nonsensical as it is on the right. Gerrymandering and voter intimidation has been their MO since before you or I were born. They didn’t ‘steal' every election they’ve won since God was in short pants. “Stolen” is sore-loser talk, it weakens Democracy, and most importantly, needs to be reserved for cases of actual theft.

More voters in 7 states voted for hate, purportedly because eggs or something. I don’t think it was the eggs.

And not some theory.

that interviewed voters in 7 states and that quantitatively showed they voted for hate? These would have to be studies done since the election. I'd like to read them, so if you don't mind, please provide a link.

Because if you don't have quantitative studies, then putting out an opinion like this "is every BIT as destructive and nonsensical as it is on the right." It makes Democrats look like they're projecting, which is something that we often see on the right. Do you understand why you need a study to attribute motivation?

Also, I don't think most of these posters are claiming "stolen election." All they are asking for is an inquiry--a recount. They haven't drawn conclusions yet. They are merely asking for a recount, which is only common sense when you are dealing with a known criminal like Donald Trump. In fact, you'd be a damn fool to do any transaction with him and expect a straight-up deal.

OTOH, you have a good point about "legally manipulated" not being the same as "stolen," although as I have pointed out, I have not yet seen anyone saying stolen. I do see substantial numbers of people asking for a recount. There's nothing wrong with that.

Legal manipulation, gerrymandering, and voter intimidation are practices they have engaged in that have no doubt had an effect.

You might find these articles of interest:

How Democrats learned to stop worrying and love the gerrymander

This article examines gerrymandering and while it has brought republicans some gains, they do not last long because Dems have fought back, using the same tactics. They have no choice, considering the conservative SC.

Democrats Decry Gerrymandering--Unless they Control the Maps

Dems can be ruthless with gerrymandering. Hmmm.

How Much Will Gerrymandering Affect the 2024 Election (The Independent);

There are some choice paragraphs in this article. Bottom line is that no, it didn't have much of an effect on 2024 but that doesn't mean it won't in the future.

Our state was a blue state, then a purple state. Our Governors used to be liberals/Democrats. Our state Supreme Court used to be liberal, now it’s full of right-wingers. School boards and local governments taken over.

to watch all the Trumphumpers, going down, right and left, just like all of us........And it is already starting to happen!
The moment Trump has his inauguration, all hell will break loose like a tsunami on all the lower 99%.........
The RepubliCONs, Corporations, and Top 1% have been planning for this moment for 45+ years, and have greatly intensified their efforts the last 8+ years, and have finally reached their goal.....

WASF, but so are the Tens of Millions of Trump Humping Voters. They are just too ignorant/stupid to realize they will be kicked to the curb, and under a bus now that they have set in motion a tyranny, where their vote will no longer be needed....

that's going to be amusing, watching the "not quite rich enough to matter" lose it all with the rest of us, because they think they are part of the "win" and they aren't.

by the time he reaches his third term, or JD Vance succeeds him, it will be the top .01% ruling America.
The 99.9% will all be crushed into basically being serfs and peasants.......

Re-Read the Grapes of Wrath, by Steinbeck for insight into what faces the entire population of the nation, and the peons with their "Hoovervilles" existence.

they actually believed that if they voted Republican they would be rich "someday." Funny how the really rich laugh at them.

they think those people are just like them.

They don't get that if running them over with a car would net them a dollar more, well, they'd be dead, crushed under that car and the rich guy who did it would not care one little bit. (Probably not all of them, but frankly, most).

Call them.

Oh, wait...

How do you think he's gonna vote?
As another poster said, "It's completely out of my hands."

Just DO IT!!!

They DO keep a record of calls and that’s public information. And it’s VERY valuable feedback that, if they’re really of a mind to honor and favor public service, they’ll be compelled to acknowledge. Certainly one or more of their staffers do.

And if you have a complaint, PUT IT IN WRITING!!!!!.

And keep a COPY!!!!!

Yes, I’m SHOUTING!!!

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On edit:
What I said, above, is about assembling documentation so you have something to refer to, later, if you need to. Cuz if you’re a normal human being, you’re very likely to forget something, and later, you may want (or need) a reminder. Make a note.
Make several notes.
Make sure to date them and note the time, if you can. The more details you have, the more believable you are. Credibility is king.

We’ve been watching a “marathon” of “To Catch a Smuggler” programs. It’s just stunning to me how many of the perpetrators facing hot water cannot answer simple questions about something that looks suspicious. They wind up looking
a) stupid
And b) awfully fishy and non-credible.

My Senators, Durbin and Duckworth, are very accessible.

heck, Chuck Grassley doesn't even know what's going on.

Most of the time, no one answers the phone...and the voice mail is full.

Tulsi Gabbard has always crossed me as someone who could be an asset of a foreign adversary. I would not be surprised if her lifelong assignment was to infiltrate and control the U.S. intelligence infrastructure.

And Kinzinger knows it.

Gabbard is the choice of Putin, who will directly benefit from obtaining all
US national security intelligence staring in January.

yes. we will be hearing too much of him.

He has said that he is open to being Gabbard's Deputy.

So when she fails, he will step right in. Mark my words....

That these picks are meant to put the current administration in the predicament of either destroying America by refusing to hand power over to a man who is making 100% unqualified picks or allow him and his unqualified picks to destroy America. It has Putin all over it. If you haven't figured this out yet, you'd better quick. With each passing day, it becomes more and more obvious what is going on.

The question is whether there are any Rs who will defend American democracy and security.

...Joe and Mika will interview them in the morning, after plastering their asses with hickeys. 💋

She was chosen because of the reasons you listed. For Trump those are qualifications.

when Hillary Clinton's email list got hacked and the campaign blocked access to the data so Bernie Sanders' campaign couldn't use it and Tulsi Gabbard was everywhere on TV badmouthing Clinton (I'm assuming that Bernie has long since cut ties with her, though at the time she was described as his surrogate and a rising star in the Democratic party).

The next I heard of her was during a presentation my firm was doing for us for AAPI month and they were talking about gender fluidity and Hawai'ian heritage and the whole Gabbard family popped as as being anti LGBQT. Her family members also have belonged to some weird cult and this was pre-MAGA.

i've never heard that she had left the cult.

Payback for Russian help in the 2024 election?

And TSF wouldn't want to make his murderous, war criminal buddy angry or he might not get any more help from him on how to run an autocracy.

For all her hype, we still really don't know what she did in uniform, and she never specified other than claiming to be a combat veteran who was more qualified to understand military issues than any of her fellow candidates in the 2020 Democratic primary.

Not choices made by an engaged change maker. Choices by a demented old fool who is a chaos agent.

Just listen to Steve Bannon, they want to tear apart the government so that they can do whatever they want without any oversight in any department.
We won't know what they did to us, until they've scattered to the winds.

seriously understated. Like the building's on fire and Kinzinger says, it's rather warm inside. Perhaps we should turn on the a/c.

she's a traitorous threat to national security being put in charge of national security. THE HOUSE IS BURNING TO THE GROUND. tell it, don't dance around it.

ittty bitty Puppets.

TY & Adam Kinzinger