Why are they smiling and acting as if everything is ok?? We are about to look like Hungary in January and they aren't even fighting back or even demanding a recount.

have no idea what they're going to do to Save Our Democracy.

with you Cha. Things we do not know are happening behind closed doors. What is this dumping on our party??? At least we have a party and not a fucking cult like the others who are tearing the country down.

It has No Place here on DU.

Mahalo, bdamomma

But their time is running out. If nothing happens before the end of year recess, then they did nothing!

Me? I had a f***ing motorcycle run me over in a pedestrian crosswalk after the 2016 election at a permitted inaugural protest rally, but then and now, I'm looking at the numbers and deciding we lost the election.

Not directed at you necessarily. It’s bullshit though

I can't think of anything that is more discouraging than this.

No need to ask why some feel abandoned, this is the reason. Sadly, it's not new.

These nominee picks are crazy even for Senate Republicans. Let them deal with the fallout first.

I hope (but I’m not optimistic) that Dems are making plans away from the cameras right now.

Trump is so over the top.

So crazy.

These picks for cabinet are so insane that no one can defend them. Like practically every one of them has a sex crime to their name.

And it was immediate chaos. Not even for one second did things seem calm and in control.

So yeah, wouldn’t you stay quiet, too, if your adversary was self immolating? Damn, I sure would.

She ran an amazing campaign - 100 days of nonstop action. She earned a decent vacation.

why intervene?

left himself open.

Romney: erm... ok...
proceeds to step on a rake

This shitshow is theirs to own up too.

imagine being such a scumbag you cannot even serve for TRUMP, OMFG

Do you have a source?

The dems. Biden is a lame duck. The senate and house leaders are probably wondering what to do. I agree. That they are too passive in the face of this madness.

weather whatever is coming. They have the resources to leave the country if things go really bad, so ultimately, they don't need to worry. They have an escape hatch and a lot of money.

They're confirming judges as fast as possible.
They're speaking out against Trump's nutty appointees, demanding to see the Gaetz report, etc.
They're using as much of the appropriated Infrastructure Act funds as they can before Trump takes over.
They're filling other vacancies that Trump can't reverse.

I'm seriously curious -- what would you rather they do?

elections have consequences.

Catch is the party or Harris campaign have to pay for them if the difference is over the mandatory recount threahold.

i will be arrested, guaranteed. There has to be an answer, the one we are talking about will not cut it for me.

Imo.

They are shoving judges into the system as fast as they can go.

The party seems kind of headless right now. I don't see any harm at all in thoroughly investigating to make sure those vote counts in battleground states are accurate. After the aggressiveness that the other side showed in 2020, we could at least do that much if for no other reason than to confirm the accuracy of American elections.

I'm plenty frustrated and angry right now, angry that we have to accept the results of an election won by pure ignorance and hate. I'm angry that our justice system failed to prosecute a criminal who committed crimes against the American people because it has been fixed in favor of the rich and powerful and under a constitution where everyone's rights are supposed to be equally protected, mine are not as equal as that of a rich, loudmouthed Republican former President because it is heavily stacked in his favor and even though Democrats were supposed to be in charge of the Justice department, our hand picked attorney general, rewarded with the position because the other party snatched the seat he should have gotten on the Supreme Court away from him, was too incompetent, slow, and lacking in courage to follow through by enforcing the law and prosecuting the criminal. And between now and January, all he will have accomplished is to waste our tax dollars for three years on absolutely nothing. At the very least he could use the power of his office, and the Presidency, to force a quick trial to get a verdict in the Jan 6 trial. Otherwise, we, the people, have been screwed on that one.

You speak for me.

aside from working to derail some of the more dangerous cabinet picks like Gaetz, Gabbard, RFK, Hegseth.

Luckily we won 4 senate seats in swing states Trump won - otherwise the Senate margin would be way worse. The way it is (47 Dems) we just need 4 Repubs to derail any nomination. It's not going to be easy to get those 4, but it's much easier than having to get 6 or 7.

they are all dangerous

be confirmed by a Republican Senate, especially with the grip he has over the party.

Our only hope is to derail the picks that are freakishly bad, by getting a few R dissenters to join in with us in opposition.

count on it

And it's going to take careful planning.

And trying to read here is a bit crazy to be honest with so many reposts on the same thing and everything mish moshed together etc.

I doubt they are going to do anything about major things- there will be no recount, except the minor races, there will be no actions against the psycho in any of his trials. The j6 case is being closed. I expected a lot of this to happen and said it many times and I was told what a fool I was.

I think they are doing things in terms of appointing judges, perhaps investigating the nominations for the cabinet, etc. whatever else they are doing behind-the-scenes we are not privy to. I think the nominees will mostly all be appointed anyway imo. I’m not sure what the judges can really do because ultimately any important cases are going to go to the Supreme Court who will just approve of whatever psycho wants

But I haven’t really heard anyone say very much at all. They were already congratulating psycho the day after the election and B was inviting him to the White House, which made me physically ill.

As far as I’m concerned, democracy is dead here, it’s just in the end phases. I guess in time we’re going to see how bad it will get. I’m still hoping for some divine intervention of some kind. I wonder if anyone has taken any steps to protect our national & intelligence interests from psycho and crew and E.

Why aren't they meeting and trying to figure out how to stop this?

How would we know they are?

That's the thing. IF there's anything they can do, anything, they would be foolish to talk about it publicly. Should they just blab any plans to make us feel better, so the fascists can shut them down before whatever there is has a chance to work?

There could be nothing, or there could be something, but we aren't going to know until it happens. Or doesn't.

The best thing WE can do is organize locally and be ready to RESIST. IF Democratic leaders are planning anything, they will need at least that much from us. And if they don't know what to do, we organize and resist anyway. BE READY to do whatever you can, and hope our leaders have a plan.

But I don't think we should expect to see any plans made public. That could spell disaster for said plans. IMHO.

I guess it’s because Dumpy and his gang aren’t shy about telling us what THEY are going to do. Maybe if they knew there would be legal pushback by Dems they have would look weaker. I don’t know. I’m just praying SOMETHING can be done. Democracy Forward has come out with their plan to fight legal battles. Just like magats do to tie up the cases against Dumpy.

but if it were me, I wouldn't be broadcasting anything major right now. Some things are best as traps sprung in secret. I'm just saying I don't think we should expect them to be sharing anything like that right now. In normal times, I might feel differently, but these are not normal times.

There are many on our side who are working on ways to tie things up in legal battles, like you mentioned, and that is good reason to take heart.

And yes, I hear you. THEY tend to put whatever they are planning out there for public consumption, but that is mostly because Trump is a blabbermouth. When it happens, that is good for us, though. We don't need to do the same and give them any more advantage than they already have. IMHO.

Our role as "we, the people" is to not be silent, though. We need to be loud and clear, shoulder to shoulder, a wall of resistance. We must do whatever we can do to be that, and as I see it, we have to be strong. I know how hard that is. I struggle daily. But despair is what they WANT us to feel. Our fear is their joy. I can't, and I won't, give them that.

I keep thinking of these words from Dune:

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

I'm not saying you are giving into fear and despair, but some of us are. I just think we need to consider that maybe there won't be a "knight in shining armor" plan rise up to save us, or maybe there will be. We just cant know which it is right now. OUR best plan is to do our best to be ready for either possibility. Resist.

That made me think of an article I read tonight that might be of interest to you. It's an article titled "It's No Time to Be Neutral," written by an American Buddhist monk, Bhikkhu Bodhi. It was shared on Bluesky. I hope it speaks to you, but if not, maybe it will at least speak to someone else who sees this post.

https://www.lionsroar.com/its-no-time-for-neutrality/

See my comment "above".

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19747741

We can't "cure" racism, misogyny and a boatload of other delusions in finite time, but we can help each other survive and grow and recoup our democracy.

We are dealing with a cult that exhibits every single sign of addictive behavior. I re-reviewed two books by Anne Wilson Schaef yesterday on "The Addictive Organization" and "When Society Becomes an Addict".

Despite the encouragement below, it will take time to change the corrosive culture, and we need to plant the seeds of that.

Being, a techie, I have long believed that tech could help liberate people, as it helped me, but it got into many wrong (sociopathic and greedy) hands, and I found that the "best" tech solutions are ones that try to undo what the sociopaths have wrought, in a libertarian culture of no limits, and everyone else be damned and exploited.

I will try to counter this machine in gentle but firm ways,



while helping, as I have tried here, to collect and share and create? resources to help compassionate people survive, unite, and thrive.

Longer term, rob Devadatta of his followers by truth and example, for those who suffer in the present, and for Devadatta's own enlightenment, however far off.

https://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/buddhism/disciples15/

"Good part" begins at mark 109, though it's all a good read.

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I do remember your post from "above." It resonated with me when I first read it (I rec'd it), and again just now. And thank you for the link. I will read it, too.

sense. We live in a time where cars drive themselves, robots do the heavy lifting for us and the thinking for us. Amazon has robots they use to help them pick-n-pak their daily orders. I drive for Lyft and regularly pick-up employees that work there in the warehouse. I'm amazed and fascinated with the things they tell me these robots do. It's also kinda scary.

Anybody who thinks that our elections are safe, fair and accurate, when a corrupt crew is so embedded with crooks, is very naive.

And, leaving the party disillusioned and leaderless is not a disaster? We want answers and we want a plan. Is sitting there silent going to help?

related only in the sense that both pertain to the party, but about different aspects of the party. I agree that lack of leadership can feel troubling, but I don't see how spilling the beans about possible plans that could work against this coup demonstrates wise leadership. Likewise, soothing words from a leader with nothing to back it up wouldn't be good leadership, either.

It has been two weeks. I don't expect things to be as pulled together as we would like in such a short time. They are just people, too. They were as shocked as we were. It takes time to heal from that, regroup, and rethink.

Kamala has been quiet, and has gone to Hawaii to rest. She needs that. I don't fault her one bit for doing that. I've seen statements from Hakeem Jeffries about the House races. Chuck Schumer is doing his best to ram through as many Democratic judges as possible. Biden just made a very important move in regard to the war in Ukraine. Jasmine Crockett lit into House Republicans brilliantly (as she always is) today. I could think of more if I tried, but I'm tired.

I have hope. Most of the time anyway. But I'm not expecting miracles. I might hope for miracles, but I'm not expecting them.

Trump was elected. All they can do is hope they can work with a few Republicans to stop the worst of the agenda.

Don't want to spoil the msm narrative.

makes Dumpy look invincible by normalizing insane and criminal behavior

I've stopped watching.

You'll see dozens of stories chronicling the "genius" of Trump before you will see a single one about what Democrats are doing.

All a Republican has to do to override coverage of Democrat's policies is to say something outrageous and stupid and the press will flock to them and ignore the Democrats.

Unfortunately, I believe it will be decades before Democrats have any power to change anything. The approaching occupiers of our government are going to burn it to the ground.

There is not much to be done.

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So far Dems have pushed a lot of judge nominations through and per Klobuchar, they worked through the night last night and will continue.

of what she has just done.

and that is the problem.

That way the GOP cant blame THEM

And, really, I shouldn't make fun. Because I haven't gotten that job at the DOJ yet. Not allowed an opinion till I do, doncha know?

And discouraged. Can you blame them?

I imagine there is a bit of letting them dig their own graves going on, and that is a good thing. But there are plenty of things we can be doing at the same time.

For example, we have just been beaten over the head AGAIN with the fact that there is room for us to VASTLY improve our messaging. There are PR firms that can tell us how to use social and other media in ways we have ALWAYS neglected to use them. It is way past time for that.

Two things that should be happening right now, just off the top of my head:
1. We could be eating trump alive right now if we were flooding social media with references to "President Musk." Such a campaign would hogtie Musk and take him out of our way. Why are we not using trump's 5-year-old's ego to take some control over him?
2. We should be flooding red social media with terror about prices rising and jobs to be lost.

Where are OUR bot farms?

damn prices rung up at the grocery checkout. People apparently care more about the price of bacon than democracy. Well, after the roundup of workers and tariffs, those prices are going to skyrocket. Let them enjoy the fruit of their votes for a bit and then try to talk to them. (In the meantime, stock up on nonperishables and buy any big-ticket items you'll need like appliances.)

We know that's his achilles heel. There are ways to exploit that.

But we don't.

The example I gave above: flood social media with references to "President Musk." He'd banish Musk within the month.

Something like 75% of the misinformation in the 2016 campaign originated in 80 accounts. Let's get us some bot farms.

You're way more optimistic than I am.

Like a republican campaign against trans people. That kind of everywhere.

Really, it is way past time we caught up on the bot farm territory.

In the meantime, the lickspittle media is fawning all over Trump and his acolytes.

hurts his ego. Example: make the phrase "President Musk" appear everywhere.

If we did that, *poof*, Musk would be gone.

He is easily manipulated. Let's for once be the manipulators.

So don't expect them to enthusiastically jump in the way of the metaphorical bullets that Donnie is shooting

be holding daily press conferences, both Senators and Congressmen alike. They should be screaming that the house is on fire because it is. They need to articulate clearly the nefarious plans of the Republicans and how they are setting about creating their authoritarian regime. AOC, Swalwell, Raskin, Waters etc etc etc. Get in front of those cameras, show your anger, shout at the top of your lungs and explain what is at stake and how the people have been conned. Make a scene, make the media take notice and get out there and stir the gd pot!

I'm not sure that more of the same style of confrontation we had going on before the election is the most effective thing to do here. Like others have said, if your opponent is self-destructing, "please proceed, Governor." Trump and his goons are proving our point more effectively right now than anything we could say. We insisted that he'd be a fucking maniac if they elected him, and now that they did, he's doing shit that's too out there for a number of them.

I don't think Democrats are beyond criticism, but I'm definitely side-eyeing some of the types of criticism around here right now because it comes off like trying to demoralize us.

How many fall to their knees and deep throat that ring finger?

Hey! It was just a joke.

It's been more than 2 weeks since the election, and people are hurting, terrified, confused.

Sure there might be something going on "behind the scenes" and nobody wants to tip their hand, but there are tens of millions who need some guidance before the end of American democracy.

Short-lived though it will be, Joe Biden is still the sitting president, and for the remaining 2 months has the opportunity to help out those facing disaster. Kamala Harris remains the VP and, for the time being, is well-positioned to advise 75 million supporters regarding preparation for the upcoming madness and devastation.

Radio silence gives only the impression of hopelessness and despair, when people need some directions on what to do next. Absence of leadership is invitation to panic, to act on confusion in an information vacuum, making poor life choices that will only compound the damage of the coming horrors.

We need to be hearing daily from those we trusted with responsibility to safeguard our republic. If they failed and all is truly lost, so be it -- that was always a risk, failure was always an option. Right now we need our leaders to lead, even if the destination is only ruin and sorrow.

The Dems are keeping their cards close to their chest, you know, working in the shadows...? Besides, the MSM is enjoying their godless orange gawd ruining our Democracy, so why would they report any good the Dems are doing?

They have much to do in the lame time to squelch many hardships that are coming.


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I really wouldn't expect much push back from the Democrats until well...next year.

What exactly would you expect them to do at this time?