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ColinC

(10,917 posts) Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:55 PM Nov 23

But seriously, how fucked are we?

On a scale of 1(not fucked at all and everything is going to be just fine) to 10(Nazi Germany wins world War 2 and Man in the High Castle shit takes effect -but with more nuking), how seriously fucked is humanity as a direct or indirect consequence of Trump winning this election?

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But seriously, how fucked are we? (Original Post) ColinC Nov 23 OP

It will depend on who you are WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #1

Im thinking in terms of the general life expectancy of ColinC Nov 23 #2

Our species will definitely continue to exist on this planet. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #3

In caves peregrinus Nov 23 #10

That's assuming... 2naSalit Nov 23 #4

I see this as a great response to post 3. ColinC Nov 23 #5

I know, most people want to think the ecological effects won't be that bad... Think. Again. Nov 23 #6

Climate disaster was going to happen regardless flamingdem Nov 23 #13

Yes, the definition of an "invasive species". Think. Again. Nov 23 #18

I don't see any reason to vote in this. But I will point out that focusing on "how fucked we are" is about highplainsdem Nov 23 #7

Knowing how fucked we are is the First Step. Turbineguy Nov 23 #8

You just brought up a memory of my survey team& I k55f5r Nov 23 #9

So... like a 5? ColinC Nov 23 #11

Wow, some story! Glad you all got out w help! electric_blue68 Nov 23 #21

I think you can do both. Acknowledge your fears, and then try to help against the coming potential, and easily first to electric_blue68 Nov 23 #22

Worried that the cabal will wreck the economy flamingdem Nov 23 #12

I'm not sure but I'm certain that the hole digging will hasten rather than be minimized much less TheKentuckian Nov 23 #14

Totally Fed Trueblue1968 Nov 23 #15

When half the U.S. electorate moondust Nov 23 #16

It's not "half the electorate" when around 30% of Eligible voters didn't vote. electric_blue68 Nov 23 #19

Okay then...half the voting public. moondust Nov 23 #23

To paraphrase a line from an episode of Roseanne that has stuck with me for all of these years: Xavier Breath Nov 23 #17

I put a "7". It sure could get to 9, or even 10. electric_blue68 Nov 23 #20

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,082 posts)

1. It will depend on who you are

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:56 PM

Nov 23

ColinC

(10,917 posts)

2. Im thinking in terms of the general life expectancy of

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 12:58 PM

Nov 23

Human civilization. Not even so much the fate of an individual nation or well being of any individual group of people...

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,082 posts)

3. Our species will definitely continue to exist on this planet.

Reply to ColinC (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:04 PM

Nov 23

peregrinus

(409 posts)

10. In caves

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:34 PM

Nov 23

2naSalit

(93,315 posts)

4. That's assuming...

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:12 PM

Nov 23

The biosphere holds up and doesn't kill us first.

ColinC

(10,917 posts)

5. I see this as a great response to post 3.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:17 PM

Nov 23

Think. Again.

(18,947 posts)

6. I know, most people want to think the ecological effects won't be that bad...

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:18 PM

Nov 23

...and that we'll just "adapt!" and learn "resilience!", but the changes our planetary environment will now go through will be catastrophic.

Yes, there will probably be a human animal left on earth when things calm down, but any societies we rebuild at that point will be unrecognizable from what has developed alng with us so far.

And that might be a good thing in the long run, for the human species anyway.

flamingdem

(39,954 posts)

13. Climate disaster was going to happen regardless

Reply to Think. Again. (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:58 PM

Nov 23

but now it will happen faster.

I feel the most for other species. It is not their fault.

All the beauty in the world and a handful of ugly humans denying us our future.

Think. Again.

(18,947 posts)

18. Yes, the definition of an "invasive species".

Reply to flamingdem (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 06:14 PM

Nov 23

highplainsdem

(52,785 posts)

7. I don't see any reason to vote in this. But I will point out that focusing on "how fucked we are" is about

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:18 PM

Nov 23

as useful as sitting in a car stuck in mud and focusing on how stuck you are. Or, worse, encouraging anyone else in the car with you to just sit there and talk about how stuck you are.

Turbineguy

(38,482 posts)

8. Knowing how fucked we are is the First Step.

Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:23 PM

Nov 23

k55f5r

(457 posts)

9. You just brought up a memory of my survey team& I

Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 01:30 PM

Nov 23

Stuck in a mud puddle. We couldn't see the hood of the suburban - It was under the mud. Couldn't open the doors cause the mud was up to the windows. I crawled out of the back window and got on the roof and got the attention of a dozer driver - he pulled us out. We made a bucket brigade using our hardhats to wash the mud out of the engine compartment.

ColinC

(10,917 posts)

11. So... like a 5?

Reply to k55f5r (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:51 PM

Nov 23

electric_blue68

(18,609 posts)

21. Wow, some story! Glad you all got out w help!

Reply to k55f5r (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:18 PM

Nov 23

electric_blue68

(18,609 posts)

22. I think you can do both. Acknowledge your fears, and then try to help against the coming potential, and easily first to

Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 09:20 PM

Nov 23

happen bad actions, events, etc.

flamingdem

(39,954 posts)

12. Worried that the cabal will wreck the economy

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:56 PM

Nov 23

Seems likely.

Who will I blame when I lose everything. Everyone else will be screwed as well.

Holding out hope that normal people will hold the line against madmen.

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)

14. I'm not sure but I'm certain that the hole digging will hasten rather than be minimized much less

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 03:59 PM

Nov 23

stopped and sure as hell not reversed so at least 6.5 but maybe 9ish.

Trueblue1968

(18,249 posts)

15. Totally Fed

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 04:35 PM

Nov 23

moondust

(20,508 posts)

16. When half the U.S. electorate

Reply to ColinC (Original post)

Sat Nov 23, 2024, 05:59 PM

Nov 23

believe that tens of thousands of provable lies in 4 years, 34 felony convictions, two impeachments, an attempted coup d'état, at least 26 accusations of sexual assault, six bankruptcies, and on and on and on are not disqualifying for the highest public office in the land?