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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe live amongst scum.
Who would turn in a family of illegals or say family of Jews to Nazis.
And these fucks have no morals and they shit on the greatest generation that saved the world i absolutely hate them all scumbags.
sop
(11,577 posts)'Good Americans' today.
ThePartyThatListens
(243 posts)But that's been the case
MayReasonRule
(1,935 posts)I'm in North Louisiana.
Fascist depravity abounds.
duhneece
(4,265 posts)Hes the only Democrat (hes 77 years old) in his family. His only living child is over 50, a retired nurse and shes Q-anon. I plan on never visiting again.
MayReasonRule
(1,935 posts)It's incredibly sad.
We're the only ones that escaped the Abrahanic blood cult of 'Christ' in which we were reared.
We count ourselves exceptionally fortunate in that regard.
SCantiGOP
(14,302 posts)It has just been incorporated into the mainstream Republican Party.
I offer as proof the nomination of RFK Jr to a cabinet position
musette_sf
(10,331 posts)In-laws from Ex #2 were from Springhill.
MayReasonRule
(1,935 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2024, 06:36 PM - Edit history (1)
We attended grade school and high school together. Dated for almost three years and then we got married.
We're some of the only folks we know that both escaped the cult and prospered within our personal relationship with ourselves and each other.
Nonetheless... the pain of the loss of others is real.
It's sickening.
Nonetheless... we refuse to embrace their pain for it is not ours...
Instead... we embrace what we love, we seize our day each and every day so as to laissez les bon temps rouler!
This is the only life we get and we intend to enjoy it in spite of and because of!!!
Littlered
(57 posts)As I mentioned in an earlier post. On a whim, I took a seasonal job at a national retailers efulfillment center. Its been quite the experience. The work is hard and the hours are long. Ive never been such a minority. Its almost unfathomable. Theres 2 lunchrooms, and by my count, each holds well over 200 people. I did a quick scan the other day and there were roughly a dozen white folks in there. Not that it really matters. The vast majority of the workers are legal immigrants from Africa, Nepal, and Latin America. The things Ive heard and learned from them are shocking. The support Trump has among many LEGAL immigrants is mind boggling.
After the election I was working along side of an older Hispanic lady. Shes a real good (but annoying) co worker, so I was happy to be working shoulder to shoulder with her. During a lull in production she asked me if I was happy about the election, I shook my head and said no. I asked here the same question, and shockingly, she said she was very happy. I found out in subsequent conversations that she is originally from Columbia but now she is all American. Anyway, the following is her reasoning. She said, I have worked in many warehouses and many of them hire illegal immigrants, and they threaten us if we say anything. Many people like her live in constant fear. I know this is a lengthy reply, but if you wonder who would turn them in, its people just like her, thats who. People that have sacrificed, followed the rules and suffered the consequences to become legal citizens. While I dont agree with her support of Trump, I certainly respect her and those like her. And I can completely understand why they vote the way they do. I realize this is purely anecdotal, but I have a sense this is the general consensus among people like her across the country.
LatteLady
(49 posts)She has voted to end democracy as we know it, so much for all American. She will not be able to blame undocumented immigrants when her daughter dies a preventable death from an untreated ectopic pregnancy.
It is very frustrating when someone cuts in line in front of you, I get that sense of unfairness. But to keep people from line-cutting doesnt require burning down the theater, does it? Thats what theyve done.
I have tried hard to think of ONE reason, ONE!, that could be explained to me by a Trump voter that would justify in any way what theyve done. So far, including the lady youve described, nope.
Littlered
(57 posts)I have no idea what goes through an immigrants mind. The things you mention might be a fair trade off to them. After all, those things you mention, are rights we have learned to take for granted. That doesnt mean they share the same learned values.
I would wager (to use your analogy) if enough people feel as though they cant get in to see the movie because of line jumpers, they may very well say burn it down.
However, back to the op. I was just offering up my observations. Ill leave the fortune telling to others.
hadEnuf
(2,790 posts)it isn't happening" attitude.
Perhaps she figures that once all the "bad" illegals are gone, she will be left to be accepted as a true blue American.
But that's not how race hatred works.
Once the illegals are gone, then it goes to "are legals really legal?". So on and so forth. Trump has also said as much.
Ask anyone who is familiar with the holocaust how it works.
Littlered
(57 posts)People seem to be mind readers and project a lot of negativity towards people that believe differently than they do. If you read what I wrote, her motivation (according to her) was living in fear of what they will do to her if she publicly outed them.
Id say Im better versed than 90 plus percent of the population when it comes to the holocaust. Conflating American immigration to the holocaust is a bridge too far.
hadEnuf
(2,790 posts)have been publicly saying for some time now. If a person wants to believe what's being said is not true and ignores it, then good luck.That is their business and I hope they are ultimately right. A lot of us are quite tired of trying to save people from themselves. But military-style raids and deportation camps are not just a matter of opinion or beliefs.
As for the Holocaust, you should well know that what I'm talking about is how the Nazis started chipping away at the "others" in living in Germany; their nationality and origins, ridding the country of their pestilence, scapegoating all of societies ills on them, etc, etc, etc. Camps and ovens didn't just appear overnight. I was the slow boiling of the frog that ultimately led to them.
Will that happen in this situation in the United States? My immediate thoughts are no way, that cannot happen here.
But the extremist right-wing's playbook seems to be filled with some pretty unmistakable parallels to the past and none of them are good.
Karasu
(368 posts)Virtually all precedent and democratic norms have been thrown to the damn dogs in the name of these people and their "beliefs" (which are mostly just misinformation and nonsense anyhow). Their "beliefs" are the reason why we are all now living in a completely chaotic, post-factual world, where even the most extreme possible scenarios have been normalized. I have absolutely zero empathy or respect for any of them, only for those who will be forced to suffer needlessly alongside them for their actions.
Demobrat
(9,947 posts)and how would she know their status anyway, unless they told her?
Id really like to understand this.
Littlered
(57 posts)The fact that she said they have threatened her would be the give away. If we get to chat again I will ask to see what she says.
hunter
(39,056 posts)What will the Nazis of our generation care if she "followed the rules" or not?
To them she's just an immigrant.
Nasruddin
(866 posts)The elites - whoever controls the warehouse hiring - threaten them, or the illegal immigrants threaten them? Or both? Or something else?
Littlered
(57 posts)I took it as the people here illegally were the ones threatening her. This particular company takes their I 9 forms seriously as do all of the major employers that Im aware of. So I cant imagine she was referring to them. If I get a chance I will ask her. Its a giant facility. 1.2 million sq ft. To be exact. So you dont necessarily work with (or even see) the same people on a daily basis.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,700 posts)Too many people are just too afraid to even admit this let alone follow through. But if this is the only way, do what we got to do for the greater good.
Probatim
(3,040 posts)Their fathers fought actually fucking Nazis and fascists and this has yet to dawn on them.
I'm with you though - they're all scumbags.
Reagan begat Rush Limbaugh, begat FoxNews, begat Not-See DarnOld Drumpf.
and Reagan did NAZI anything wrong with it!
Red Mountain
(1,928 posts)The scum realize that once their neighbors have been hauled off by the thugs all their stuff will be sitting there for the taking. They'll be tripping over themselves to report them.
Liberal In Red State
(459 posts)have wrought with these election results . . . But then they do not care. The sacrifices of our parents in their youth has been spat on . . . the esteem for our military and their service has been denigrated over and over by the orange turd and his maggots. My disgust is boundless!
ShazzieB
(18,925 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 29, 2024, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm sure a lot of them would jump at the chance to turn "illegals" in. After all, one reason they voted for him was because they liked his stance on immigrants so much.
Furthermore, I don't think it will be safe for any immigrant to take it for granted that they'll be left alone. At least not if their skin is any color other than lily white. Even those who are citizens could get caught up in a roundup and go through all kinds of hell before they get a chance to prove their citizenship. I doubt Trump's thugs will apologize when the error is discovered, either.
slightlv
(4,441 posts)occasionally media will publish their stories. I have to believe what we read is a small pittance of what is actually happening.
Wanna deport immigrants? Everyone not Native American get out; go back to where you came from! /snark
onecaliberal
(36,320 posts)You have no idea how scummy. Its all about the Benjamins.
summer_in_TX
(3,294 posts)I take it you mean $$$?
Grins
(7,940 posts)For the reward.
And the same Christians who think a reward for such a thing is the right thing to do.
MayReasonRule
(1,935 posts)Delusion is a hell of a drug.
I and mine are the only members of our families that escaped the Abrahamic blood cults of 'Christ' from which we were reared.
I was reared to be a 'Mike Johnson'.
I was schooled to be a 'Mike Johnson'.
All the rest of the members of our families are Nat-Cs through and through.
Delusion is a hell of a drug.
Evolve Dammit
(19,062 posts)Farmer-Rick
(11,538 posts)Without the proper paperwork who will be rounded up and put into concentration camps and deported. But it won't be.
Trump said immigrants. He did not just use the word illegals. Trump said they were poisoning the blood of our country. Do you think that because they have the correct paperwork, they magically are no longer considered to be poisoning the blood of our country? That statement is about their race, their looks.
Yeah, they'll start with the undocumented ones and move on to the people who look like them. To get rid of the poison.
In Nazi Germany they gave Jewish people proper paperwork to carry with them to identify them. After that, they were considered legal. For awhile, until they started rounding them up and putting them in gettos, concentration camps and ovens.
Trump will start cleaning out the blood of our country on day 1. And it has nothing to do with what paperwork you have.
Immigrants of color have just voted in their own executioners.
spooky3
(36,413 posts)That Latinos, particularly women, supported Harris.
https://unidosus.org/press-releases/hispanic-voters-back-harris-over-trump-by-a-62-37-margin-cite-economic-concerns-as-top-priorities/
Farmer-Rick
(11,538 posts)We are a country of immigrants. No one but indigenous people are free of immigrant blood. We are all poison to Trump.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)that's a disgusting word made up by repukes to dehumanize people
Anaximander
(4 posts)They're here illegally, I don't know when or why using that term became verboten, but it shouldn't be. You can still support them and a path towards citizenship.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)ILLEGAL IS AN ADJECTIVE, NOT A NOUN
I can honestly see why you wouldn't mind it though
DONE HERE
Farmer-Rick
(11,538 posts)But Trump uses the word a lot. I was identifying the words he used.
You know what's even more offensive? Trump quoting Hitler and everyone was fine with it.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)and part of being a dictator is dehumanizing people
Farmer-Rick
(11,538 posts)It's not about immigration. It's about race.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)she marveled that not ONCE did anyone tell her to GO BACK WHERE SHE CAME FROM
Initech
(102,511 posts)Our country is in the hands of sadists.
Aussie105
(6,467 posts)He has a nasty, vindictive streak.
He needs people to victimise. Bully, deport, whatever it takes to make him feel good and powerful.
And a large part of the population look on and declare it good.
Anyone got a phone number for the Grim Reaper? I need to make a request.
ForgedCrank
(2,381 posts)not a very appealing comparison. Might want to rethink this one.