'Good Americans' today.

But that's been the case

He’s the only Democrat (he’s 77 years old) in his family. His only living ‘child’ is over 50, a retired nurse and she’s Q-anon. I plan on never visiting again.

It's incredibly sad.

We're the only ones that escaped the Abrahanic blood cult of 'Christ' in which we were reared.

We count ourselves exceptionally fortunate in that regard.

It has just been incorporated into the mainstream Republican Party.
I offer as proof the nomination of RFK Jr to a cabinet position

In-laws from Ex #2 were from Springhill.

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We attended grade school and high school together. Dated for almost three years and then we got married.

We're some of the only folks we know that both escaped the cult and prospered within our personal relationship with ourselves and each other.

Nonetheless... the pain of the loss of others is real.
It's sickening.

Nonetheless... we refuse to embrace their pain for it is not ours...
Instead... we embrace what we love, we seize our day each and every day so as to laissez les bon temps rouler!

This is the only life we get and we intend to enjoy it in spite of and because of!!!

As I mentioned in an earlier post. On a whim, I took a seasonal job at a national retailers efulfillment center. It’s been quite the experience. The work is hard and the hours are long. I’ve never been such a minority. It’s almost unfathomable. There’s 2 lunchrooms, and by my count, each holds well over 200 people. I did a quick scan the other day and there were roughly a dozen white folks in there. Not that it really matters. The vast majority of the workers are legal immigrants from Africa, Nepal, and Latin America. The things I’ve heard and learned from them are shocking. The support Trump has among many LEGAL immigrants is mind boggling.

After the election I was working along side of an older Hispanic lady. She’s a real good (but annoying) co worker, so I was happy to be working shoulder to shoulder with her. During a lull in production she asked me if I was happy about the election, I shook my head and said no. I asked here the same question, and shockingly, she said she was very happy. I found out in subsequent conversations that she is originally from Columbia but now she is all American. Anyway, the following is her reasoning. She said, I have worked in many warehouses and many of them hire illegal immigrants, and they threaten us if we say anything. Many people like her live in constant fear. I know this is a lengthy reply, but if you wonder who would turn them in, it’s people just like her, that’s who. People that have sacrificed, followed the rules and suffered the consequences to become legal citizens. While I don’t agree with her support of Trump, I certainly respect her and those like her. And I can completely understand why they vote the way they do. I realize this is purely anecdotal, but I have a sense this is the general consensus among people like her across the country.

She has voted to end democracy as we know it, so much for all American. She will not be able to blame undocumented immigrants when her daughter dies a preventable death from an untreated ectopic pregnancy.

It is very frustrating when someone cuts in line in front of you, I get that sense of unfairness. But to keep people from line-cutting doesn’t require burning down the theater, does it? That’s what they’ve done.

I have tried hard to think of ONE reason, ONE!, that could be explained to me by a Trump voter that would justify in any way what they’ve done. So far, including the lady you’ve described, nope.

I have no idea what goes through an immigrants mind. The things you mention might be a fair trade off to them. After all, those things you mention, are rights we have learned to take for granted. That doesn’t mean they share the same learned values.

I would wager (to use your analogy) if enough people feel as though they can’t get in to see the movie because of line jumpers, they may very well say “burn it down.”

However, back to the op. I was just offering up my observations. I’ll leave the fortune telling to others.

it isn't happening" attitude.

Perhaps she figures that once all the "bad" illegals are gone, she will be left to be accepted as a true blue American.

But that's not how race hatred works.

Once the illegals are gone, then it goes to "are legals really legal?". So on and so forth. Trump has also said as much.

Ask anyone who is familiar with the holocaust how it works.

People seem to be mind readers and project a lot of negativity towards people that believe differently than they do. If you read what I wrote, her motivation (according to her) was living in fear of what they will do to her if she publicly outed them.

I’d say I’m better versed than 90 plus percent of the population when it comes to the holocaust. Conflating American immigration to the holocaust is a bridge too far.

have been publicly saying for some time now. If a person wants to believe what's being said is not true and ignores it, then good luck.That is their business and I hope they are ultimately right. A lot of us are quite tired of trying to save people from themselves. But military-style raids and deportation camps are not just a matter of opinion or beliefs.

As for the Holocaust, you should well know that what I'm talking about is how the Nazis started chipping away at the "others" in living in Germany; their nationality and origins, ridding the country of their pestilence, scapegoating all of societies ills on them, etc, etc, etc. Camps and ovens didn't just appear overnight. I was the slow boiling of the frog that ultimately led to them.

Will that happen in this situation in the United States? My immediate thoughts are no way, that cannot happen here.

But the extremist right-wing's playbook seems to be filled with some pretty unmistakable parallels to the past and none of them are good.

Virtually all precedent and democratic norms have been thrown to the damn dogs in the name of these people and their "beliefs" (which are mostly just misinformation and nonsense anyhow). Their "beliefs" are the reason why we are all now living in a completely chaotic, post-factual world, where even the most extreme possible scenarios have been normalized. I have absolutely zero empathy or respect for any of them, only for those who will be forced to suffer needlessly alongside them for their actions.

and how would she know their status anyway, unless they told her?
I’d really like to understand this.

The fact that she said they have threatened her would be the give away. If we get to chat again I will ask to see what she says.

What will the Nazis of our generation care if she "followed the rules" or not?

To them she's just an immigrant.

The elites - whoever controls the warehouse hiring - threaten them, or the illegal immigrants threaten them? Or both? Or something else?

I took it as the people here illegally were the ones threatening her. This particular company takes their I 9 forms seriously as do all of the major employers that I’m aware of. So I can’t imagine she was referring to them. If I get a chance I will ask her. It’s a giant facility. 1.2 million sq ft. To be exact. So you don’t necessarily work with (or even see) the same people on a daily basis.

Too many people are just too afraid to even admit this let alone follow through. But if this is the only way, do what we got to do for the greater good.

Their fathers fought actually fucking Nazis and fascists and this has yet to dawn on them.

I'm with you though - they're all scumbags.

Reagan begat Rush Limbaugh, begat FoxNews, begat Not-See DarnOld Drumpf.
and Reagan did NAZI anything wrong with it!

The scum realize that once their neighbors have been hauled off by the thugs all their stuff will be sitting there for the taking. They'll be tripping over themselves to report them.

have wrought with these election results . . . But then they do not care. The sacrifices of our parents in their youth has been spat on . . . the esteem for our military and their service has been denigrated over and over by the orange turd and his maggots. My disgust is boundless!

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I'm sure a lot of them would jump at the chance to turn "illegals" in. After all, one reason they voted for him was because they liked his stance on immigrants so much.

Furthermore, I don't think it will be safe for any immigrant to take it for granted that they'll be left alone. At least not if their skin is any color other than lily white. Even those who are citizens could get caught up in a roundup and go through all kinds of hell before they get a chance to prove their citizenship. I doubt Trump's thugs will apologize when the error is discovered, either.

occasionally media will publish their stories. I have to believe what we read is a small pittance of what is actually happening.

Wanna deport immigrants? Everyone not Native American get out; go back to where you came from! /snark

You have no idea how scummy. It’s all about the Benjamin’s.

I take it you mean $$$?

For the reward.

And the same “Christians” who think a reward for such a thing is the right thing to do.

Delusion is a hell of a drug.

I and mine are the only members of our families that escaped the Abrahamic blood cults of 'Christ' from which we were reared.

I was reared to be a 'Mike Johnson'.
I was schooled to be a 'Mike Johnson'.

All the rest of the members of our families are Nat-Cs through and through.

Delusion is a hell of a drug.

Without the proper paperwork who will be rounded up and put into concentration camps and deported. But it won't be.

Trump said immigrants. He did not just use the word illegals. Trump said they were poisoning the blood of our country. Do you think that because they have the correct paperwork, they magically are no longer considered to be poisoning the blood of our country? That statement is about their race, their looks.

Yeah, they'll start with the undocumented ones and move on to the people who look like them. To get rid of the poison.

In Nazi Germany they gave Jewish people proper paperwork to carry with them to identify them. After that, they were considered legal. For awhile, until they started rounding them up and putting them in gettos, concentration camps and ovens.

Trump will start cleaning out the blood of our country on day 1. And it has nothing to do with what paperwork you have.

Immigrants of color have just voted in their own executioners.

That Latinos, particularly women, supported Harris.

https://unidosus.org/press-releases/hispanic-voters-back-harris-over-trump-by-a-62-37-margin-cite-economic-concerns-as-top-priorities/

We are a country of immigrants. No one but indigenous people are free of immigrant blood. We are all poison to Trump.

that's a disgusting word made up by repukes to dehumanize people

They're here illegally, I don't know when or why using that term became verboten, but it shouldn't be. You can still support them and a path towards citizenship.

ILLEGAL IS AN ADJECTIVE, NOT A NOUN

I can honestly see why you wouldn't mind it though

DONE HERE

But Trump uses the word a lot. I was identifying the words he used.

You know what's even more offensive? Trump quoting Hitler and everyone was fine with it.

and part of being a dictator is dehumanizing people

It's not about immigration. It's about race.

she marveled that not ONCE did anyone tell her to GO BACK WHERE SHE CAME FROM

Our country is in the hands of sadists.

He has a nasty, vindictive streak.

He needs people to victimise. Bully, deport, whatever it takes to make him feel good and powerful.

And a large part of the population look on and declare it good.

Anyone got a phone number for the Grim Reaper? I need to make a request.

not a very appealing comparison. Might want to rethink this one.