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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Walsh (on MSNBC just now), you are wrong, wrong, wrong in your take on Hunter Biden's pardon
It won't embolden Trump. Trump has shown repeatedly that he will do whatever he damn pleases. Joe Biden's action is irrelevant.
Joe Biden didn't pardon him simply because he loves his son. He pardoned him because it clearly was a targeted prosecution by Republicans who wanted to discredit and harass Hunter's father, and because Hunter has paid his dues.
A pardon is entirely appropriate and just.
Deuxcents
(20,151 posts)He needs to shut the fuck up and move on. He should worry about a rapist pedo leading the helm and his nefarious unqualified cabinet picks. That's what he should be upset about!
These mainstream media people are so weird and then they wonder why their ratings are dropping. I am sick of all of them. They are dangerous because they are the reason why he's about to be in office again.
Evolve Dammit
(19,071 posts)spooky3
(36,424 posts)PlanetBev
(4,230 posts)I was hoping Joe would change his mind and pardon Hunter. That family has suffered enough. Looking forward to hearing the Right scream like banshees.
skylucy
(3,868 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,632 posts)from him is delusional.
awesomerwb1
(4,609 posts)to being that insufferable tea party turd he once was.
krkaufman
(13,759 posts)of why opposition to Trump is not a sufficient threshold warranting a platform.
Karasu
(368 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(11,110 posts)Biden AND Walsh. This was a bullshit prosecution from start to finish. We can only expect more of such in the coming four years. If Hunter's last name had been anything but Biden, he'd have been let off with a slap on the wrist, if anything at all.
spooky3
(36,424 posts)tavernier
(13,284 posts)I thought you were quoting Walsh. After re-reading, I realized that was your quote, not Walshs.
FloridaBlues
(4,392 posts)A dictator and republicans yawn at trump.
So happy Joe did this for his son.
Dont worry by tomorrow trump will select another low life to cabinet.
FloridaBlues
(4,392 posts)A dictator and republicans yawn at trump.
So happy Joe did this for his son.
Dont worry by tomorrow trump will select another low life to cabinet.
Hekate
(95,297 posts)After awhile, I thought it looked like they were trying to make Hunter kill himself to destroy Joe. It was that bad.
Good for President Biden. This is the right thing to do.
magicarpet
(16,974 posts)..... the abyss of drug abuse. That was one of their ways to tear Joe Biden down. So the Orange Menace would easily win his second term (that djt thought Biden cheated him out of).
ShazzieB
(18,925 posts)I've been hiding from the news lately, so I hadn't heard about this until now. What lovely news!
Ocelot II
(121,502 posts)It went way beyond a legitimate prosecution for a crime of possessing a gun while abusing drugs. Hunter did commit that crime, but it was one that is almost never prosecuted when there's no underlying crime, as in where the gun is used. If it had been a routine prosecution without a political motive a pardon might not have been appropriate, but Hunter was targeted for the express purpose of harming Joe politically. I think Joe changed his mind when he saw what Trump's DoJ was going to turn into - little but a mechanism for retribution on Trump's behalf - and Trump clearly wanted very much to punish Joe for the 2020 election and intended to do so. Hunter was about to be sentenced for this "crime," but investigations almost certainly would continue under Patel's FBI and Bondi's prosecutors regarding Burisma and who knows what other matters, and it would never end until Hunter broke. Joe must have realized that, and concluded that a pardon was necessary to save Hunter's sobriety if not his life. These are vicious people and they wouldn't have stopped.
Hekate
(95,297 posts)angrychair
(9,899 posts)Why would he leave his own child at the mercy of those monsters? This was the only possible and best thing he could do to protect him from unrelenting harassment.
maspaha
(403 posts)Trump is already doing whatever he wants.
calimary
(84,612 posts)Cuz they wanted to hurt Joe Biden. But since they couldnt pin anything on him, and thru STILL wanted to hurt Joe Biden, they went after his son.
BASTARDS.
AZ8theist
(6,555 posts)But let's not even WHISPER a peep about Jared Kushner selling out our intelligence assets for $2 BILLION!!
Assassinated assets? Spies tortured and killed in Russia and Saudi Arabia?? WHO CARES??
NO NO NO!!!
NOTHING TO SEE THERE!!!
The corruption and hypocricy (AND TREASON) of the Reich Wing in America is beyond belief.....
AZ8theist
(6,555 posts)What rock did this slimebag crawl out from under?????
MissLilyBart
(107 posts)It was Joe Wilson of South Carolina who engaged in that disgraceful outburst.
Joe Walsh wasn't even in Congress in 2009.
AZ8theist
(6,555 posts)In It to Win It
(9,766 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,510 posts)just to troll the maggots....
arthritisR_US
(7,632 posts)bmichaelh
(644 posts)Does not matter what Biden does.
Trump is driven by immediate impulses.
Trump does not have any kind of moral code that he lives by.
This outrage that MAGA shows will not be there if Trump tries to pardon himself.
I wish Biden would pardon everyone on Trump's enemy list.
Not because they did anything wrong; far from it; so that it would set back his revenge presidency.
arthritisR_US
(7,632 posts)Takket
(22,664 posts)How could ANYONE look at the cast of grifters, conmen, rapists and felons that drumpf is trotting out to run the country and think for HALF A SECOND that drumpf wouldn't do something horrible, but now he will because Biden pardoned Hunter. That is such a STUPID take......... absolutely NOTHING about drumpf's presidency will change because of this.
Cha
(305,861 posts)that I guess was pearl clutching about repercussions?
The Pardoning of Hunter was More Important than any side effects.
Excellent Statement.
spooky3
(36,424 posts)Cha
(305,861 posts)here before.
I don't have a TV... just curious who's being so Ignorant purposely or otherwise.
It was a really good response by Joe Walsh. TY for reporting it!
spooky3
(36,424 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2024, 02:29 AM - Edit history (1)
Was upset that Joe Biden pardoned Hunter. He said it would embolden Trump and that it was wrong and ranted on. Murray asked wouldnt a father who loves his son pardon him in these circumstances and Walsh disagreed.
Cha
(305,861 posts)for the Correction!
orleans
(35,270 posts)MMBeilis
(402 posts)bluboid
(709 posts)thank you for speaking Truth to power.
SunSeeker
(54,064 posts)He went from Tea Party to Never Trumper and can just as easily swing back. Fuck him.
moniss
(6,151 posts)personal safety of Hunter if he were in prison while Donald Crumb and his people are in control and how they could "manufacture" incidents of misconduct in prison in order to bring additional charges and keep him behind bars for years and years. Likewise I do not put it past these people to arrange serious physical harm to Hunter. That would be their "payback" to Joe. Protective placement means nothing. Remember that Epstein was in protective custody and supposedly monitored 24/7.
SunSeeker
(54,064 posts)Sugarcoated
(8,116 posts)and partisan Cash Patel for FBI was the catalyst for Joe to ultimately decide to pardon Hunter
Irish_Dem
(59,727 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 2, 2024, 11:39 AM - Edit history (1)
The substance is clear enough. This was a weaponized prosecution, and for a person whose crimes were a drug habit and not checking the right box on a gun permit for a weapon he never used, the consequences have already been extreme. Any reasonable person would say that Hunter has more than paid the price for the things he did. And there is no evidence that Joe interfered with ANY of that, as extreme and unprecedented as it was.
Now, we were looking at the prospects of Trump with his cabinet of crazies adding 4 more years of hell and enormous expense to the punishment that has already been dealt. As a practical matter, this is a no-brainer. Take that away from Trump.
As far as optics go, that is just a Beltway thing. I don't believe anybody else cases. It is not like Joe is letting a mass murderer, or even serial sexual offender, loose on the public. I hope Biden's end-of-term actions don't stop here. Let's get the full Epstein file put into the public domain, as well as the unredacted Mueller report, and Jack Smith's complete findings.
spooky3
(36,424 posts)(a) must be so horrified with Trump actions by now that they have moved to Antarctica and buried themselves in snow. Or
(b) has a serious priority problem, to put optics over justice.
malaise
(278,801 posts)Rec