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When your business model requires that you deny coverage in life and death situations this can only be viewed as an occupational hazard. I'm surprised he didn't travel with private security. When you kill people intentionally due to your avarice there might be blowback from dissatisfied customers. This guy made last year, roughly, what the average American makes in three lifetimes. Actions have consequences.

It could be anything. I don't know anything about the guy. But it is a pretty safe bet that he was a vindictive, money-grubbing asshole. It is hard to imagine anybody rising in that industry any other way.

And if that is an accurate description, it could be:
* a disgruntled employee
* a guy whose wife or child died, blaming UHC
* a love triangle that turned violent
* a mob hit
* a case of mistaken identity

But it could be anything else on your list.

* God’s will.

But it is too soon to talk about gun violence., of course.

We don't know the motive. It might have been everyday rage or mental illness, having little or nothing to do with his role as CEO of a company that is part of an industry that systematically vacuums up almost 20% of everything that happens in the USA. But I do feel that the Trump era, all the normalization we have seen from Republicans and the corporate media have put this country on a path where this kind of violence becomes commonplace and even morally justifiable to some. Heretofore, nearly all of this kind of (presumably) politically/socially-inspired violence has come from the far right. If this one came from the far left (and we have no evidence of that yet), I fear that opens up a whole new era.

There are many people from MAGA/Q world who would welcome widespread violence and chaos from all sides, with their attitude of "burn the mother---- down".

I’m going to get out my roll of Reynolds Wrap and make a hat from it for this one, and for that I apologize in advance.

UnitedHealthcare is the biggest player in the Medicare Advantage market…and also the one most likely to deny a claim. Could the person who either did this or arranged for it to be done be the relative of someone who died because UHC denied a claim and the person died due to the denial?

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I'm no expert, but it looked like a cool, calculated professional hitjob.

The victim came into view on the street, walking away from the camera. The assassin, wearing a hoodie with his (?) back to the camera, came quickly into view from the roadside where some vehicles were parked, then fired the first shot. The victim staggered forward against a wall and turned to face the assassin, who kept walking towards him and fired a second shot, the victim collapsed, at which the assassin fired again while nearing him. The assassin walked casually past him, then walked into the road and broke into a run as he moved to the far side.

One person was in a doorway that was between the assassin and the victim when the first shot was fired, but fled past the camera at that point. There was someone in a car parked level with where the victim finally fell as its left blinker was going and its brake lights operated as the assassin walked in front of the car. Neither seemed to have anything to do with the incident.

...which is quieter but not powerful enough to cycle the weapon, you can see him manually cocking it after every shot

It seems to me there is much that could have gone wrong. I'm thinking a real professional hit man would have looked for an opportunity that had fewer bystanders, one of whom might have decided to be a hero.

But maybe this is the easiest way to make such a hit.

It certainly wasn't a random act, or a street gang. It was clearly an assassination with the element of surprise, disguise and a good escape plan. He probably ditched the outer layer of clothes in Central Park and then simply strolled out like anybody else.

Just a hunch, but I'd look into what his wife has been up to, assuming he is married. Or more likely, if he has been romancing another whose partner isn't so accepting of open relationships. In any case, my hunch is the shooter was hired, and not acting out of his own personal rage.

My first thoughts went to "revenge," too. But, when you step back and realize that Dregs of Humanity are about to take control of our government, I wouldn't put anything past them, including bumping off someone, so they can install their own toady. Or, make sure they stay quiet, a la Jeffery Epstein.

Rest in torment fucker

Of finally fed up peons

death on almost no one, this man included - but that said - they should be afraid.

You read my mind.

footage of the beautiful blonde grieving widow and her tousle-haired children if possible, great publicity! Quick! Get the broken-bodied custodian in front of the camera to tell us how he smiled and said “hello” every morning just like custodians were real people!

They should all be afraid. Things are getting broken out here, and their safety is an illusion.

Things are indeed breaking and in many cases maybe irretrievably broken. When humans get desperate and angry, we are in for a ride. When the oligarchy gets antsy, we are also in for a ride. They should be afraid.

I once heard a guy, who worked in a top U.S. corporation, and got screwed over, say to the CEO......"every night before you go to bed you should say a prayer for me, and pray to god that I never get a terminal disease you despicable piece of shit"......

U.S. Corporations and Uber wealthy Republicans have purchased the best politicians that money can buy.
99% of Corporations and 100% of their stockholders have had a good time royally screwing over customers and employees alike......
The Corporations have almost completely merged with Government....Definition of Fascism: Merger of Corporations and Gov't..

I can only imagine, LOL, that every future negotiation for a job as a CEO, besides a "Golden Parachute" clause, will include a demand for 24/7 bodyguards for the CEO and every member of their family.......

he will be glad to see this be where we go as a society.

maybe the dam is breaking.

I bet it comes out that this guy lost someone because of UHC's decision.

They seem willing to put up with anything

We have a dumb voter problem in the US. Oh, don't forget the Trans Outrage. Better yet, how many jackasses sat on their hands and didn't vote. Health care is gonna get worse now, not better.

The Dumb Voter Problem is 31% of the population; the jackass problem is 40% of the population.

I kinda feel like this country IS about 71% irredeemable asshattery about now...

Meanwhile, so many are like, "Why didn't the Democratic Party fix all of my and the World's problems? Yesterday? Hhhhhmmmmm

...it's the ever-expanding business of privatizing the so-called insurance that one is required to have to receive it. As a country, we pumped many millions of dollars into Rick Scott's pocket. It was demonstrably criminal, yet he's still a sitting US Senator. With LOTS of money.

Rick Scott's company committed corruption and was found guilty of illegally siphoning 1.3 BILLION of our tax dollars. (Medicare Fraud)

Rick Scott didn't even get a hand slap, the Corporation got nailed, because he only organized, implemented, directed, and collected off his fraud.......

3 Big Effs there

was "that was intentional - midtown manhattan on a wed. morning"

This seems a little too calculated. Probably family fortune related if I had to guess.

But you never know. My buddy who is a Public Defender once told me how proud he was of a client who wore a mask to rob a currency exchange - it gave him something to work with. Sometimes amateurs can make an effort.

So they just murder the people who benefit from those policies that they voted for?

You do know the insurance industry has a massive bribery lobbying force, right?

Nonetheless, the policies that allow the lobbying is what I'm really talking about.

And the first to fill the pain and suffer the most from the billionaire regime own most of the biggest most deadly weapons. And have been groomed to take back their country and Freedoms aggressively since the Black Man.
GQP armed them, fired them up, encouraged them shooting those you oppose, so when they get WOKE from that billionaire penis poking those in the air assholes with their heads buried in the sand………. what could go wrong?

A fed up someone

The masked man then fled through the Ziegfeld alleyway and hopped on a bike to flee the scene.

That should narrow it down to about 50 million suspects.

as we speak.

I wonder if this is related to someone not getting lifesaving healthcare because of a UHC decision?

United has threatened to drop health care systems across the nation this fall. Our local health care systems were affected.

Or maybe something in his personal life that was a secret..

So the killer didn’t have to know his schedule in so far that he knew he’d be at this meeting.

I have a sense of why they haven't caught the guy yet. Sixth Avenue is a north-south street, so fleeing eastbound on it is truly some magical evasion procedure.

And something about fleeing on foot and then bike.

The NY Post said he fled eastbound off 6th Avenue into an alley. The Independent wrote the sentence that I quoted in my subject line, which is pretty much impossible (fleeing eastbound on 6th Avenue). Maybe 54th street?

Whew, I feel so bad for the dectives who have to sift through dozens of associates and then millions of their coustomers.

The assassination was on the side entrance which is how I entered the Hilton. It is the least watched entrance. There is a deli across the street where everyone got breakfast. It wouldn't surprise me that he was going or coming from eating.

I know... just riffing along with you.

Justin Rohrlich is a staff reporter based in NYC. Past bylines include VICE News, The Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, NKNews.org, and others. He won an Emmy in 2008.

you can hear him here, from 2011

https://heritageradionetwork.org/episode/justin-rohrlich/

. . . There is something colloquially known as 6½ Avenue, which is a pedestrian walkway that runs parallel to 6th Avenue, about midblock between 6th and 7th, from 51st to 57th Street.

The shooter.was not wearing a cream-colored jacket as first reported. He was dressed in all black, with a light colored backpack.

He didn't appear to flee, exactly. He walked up to his victim and then walked away, across the street. I'm sure a lot of the reports are wrong.

The plaza and the "alley" (so-called 6th 1/2 Avenue) on either side of the Ziegfeld Theatre are also North-South running. In any case, those would both be WEST of 6th Avenue off 54th Street.

Knowledge of the city layout! Really. ❤️

And no New Yorker ever calls it “Avenue of the Americas”

n/t

They are bigtime govt providers, I thnk maybe the only ones?

I agree with the ideas that it culd have been someonewho lost a loved one. But I also thnk this has more to do with some "taking out" of the CEO's of the big govt contractors/allies (haven't had coffee yet, trying to come up with the right word lol)

It looks like someone who's family member died due to the actions of the company

I don't know how many people were affected. My wife is covered by United and if her doctors' health care system hadn't reached an agreement with United - literally at the last minute - none of her doctors or their hospital would be in network. She would have had to find all new doctors and go to different clinics and hospitals OR pay thousands and thousands more for her care.

United did this to health care systems across the nation this fall.

Not us of course, but the 50% of jackasses who do vote repuke EVERY ELECTION!!! Then when they're sick, they immediately blame the Democrats or George Soros.

This is a sore point. Many Democrats decline to support universal healthcare, leaving the private insurance companies firmly in charge of our system.

Obamacare (ACA) barely got passed by Congress, and only thanks to Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden for twisting arms. Still, they were unable to include a public option, meaning that every carrier in the ACA marketplace is a private company.

Most nations on Earth now have some form of universal health coverage. Every U.S. citizen should have that, issued by the government, without having to deal with our nightmare system.

But democrats in the senate led by Kennedy held out for a better deal... then the recession happened and here we are fifty years later still waiting.

We thought we were going to have to find new doctors, but at the last second they sorted it out. I used to have a plan with Humana through my employer, but Humana shut it down and we got stuck with UHC. All my scripts and co-pays went up of course. Fun times...

I don't know why Americans put up with this.

Medicare Advantage plans because of the high rate of denials.

I have @ $800 in new medical bills (from well visits) because suddenly UHC won't work with my previously in network OB/GYN. Very, very frustrating.

So there is that.

The stock dropped immediately upon the news and then recovered by open. It's currently up a very normal amount on a day where the overall market is up.

UH stock is up this morning, but Brian Thompson is not.

Pretty well planned. He laid in wait outside, probably had scoped out what route he'd use from previous observations. Multiple shots and then escaped on a bike - which is probably a good way in New York.

VP and CEO made $10,221,898 in 2023.

Almost starting to sound like a professional hit.

It was just a citizen using his "second admendment" rights, thanks Supreme Court for allowing maga and other ilk to bring their unregulated concealed weapon into NYC.

it could be anybody.

I have been going to that Hilton every year since 2006. I used that side entrance all the time. It is the least watched. There is a deli across the street where everyone went for breakfast. I would not doubt he had d gone ther for braekfast and was walking back. It is right near the parking garage.

and turn right that is one entrance. This one is when you turn left and go by the bathrooms to the big circular door by the parking garage. I think he was going to that deli for braekfast. It is where I eat breakfast every time I go to the Hilton. It is the only thing open on the street at that time. I was looking at hotel prices just yesterday as I am n booking for legaltech.

It is ordinarily a bustling but safe area.

How could Joe pardon him and not throw him to the wolves taking over?

drug deal gone bad. The CEO stiffed the wrong guy.

I have been going to that Hilton every year since 2006. I was looking up prices yesterday for Legaltech. The side door is the least watched.

Ix-nay on the I was there-ay.

a CEO buys his own drugs? I would think that would be a fun perk of making barrels of money.

where they set up a pharmacy for all, and extremely poor record keeping of "What" and "Who"...........

could it have been a hit job? It seems a bit professional.

That is just my guess, based upon the wearing of the mask and planned getaway.

On the other hand, a professional would know that cameras catch everyone's movements outside the hotel. The killer in this particular case spent an extended length of time milling around in front of the hotel, which is something one would think that a professional hit man would avoid doing.

Hard to identify on surveillance video. They had a bike stashed for the getaway. And there were reports he/she used a silencer. Sounds like something out of a movie.

Only John and Harold didn't get there in time.