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applegrove

(123,610 posts) Wed Dec 4, 2024, 09:53 PM Dec 4

Jeffries Stays Out of the Way as Democrats Mutiny

Jeffries Stays Out of the Way as Democrats Mutiny

December 4, 2024 at 5:11 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 116 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2024/12/04/jeffries-stays-out-of-the-way-as-democrats-mutiny/

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“House Democrats are poised to unseat several senior committee leaders, and Hakeem Jeffries is letting it happen,” Politico reports.

“It’s akin to a mutiny, especially given Democrats’ typical deference to seniority in who leads panels. But party lawmakers are increasingly anxious about the incoming Trump administration and full GOP control of Congress. Many feel it’s crucial to have leaders who are proven fighters and can effectively push back on Republican priorities like harsh limits on legal immigration.”

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Jeffries Stays Out of the Way as Democrats Mutiny (Original Post) applegrove Dec 4 OP

overly hysterical words for an ordinary happening nt msongs Dec 4 #1

The point is the old way of seniority is being put aside applegrove Dec 4 #3

We need wartime consiglieres. We're going to the mattresses. ZonkerHarris Dec 4 #2

With what power? newdeal2 Dec 5 #4

Well, if noise is all you've got, then USE it and MAKE THE MOST OF IT! calimary Dec 5 #5

Oh, here we go with the "Democrats in Disarray" narrative again. lees1975 Dec 5 #6

The article is more about Democrats steeling their applegrove Dec 5 #7

I think they are listening Owens Dec 5 #8

It's time Linda ladeewolf Dec 5 #9

I'm 54 and Unwind Your Mind Dec 5 #11

I for one surely hope for the Dems to show some balls & vagina strength NotHardly Dec 5 #10

The "Kill them with kindness" and "So what if Trump creates camps? It'll be over in 4 years" people need to go. Oneironaut Dec 5 #12

msongs

(70,276 posts)

1. overly hysterical words for an ordinary happening nt

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:29 PM

Dec 4

applegrove

(123,610 posts)

3. The point is the old way of seniority is being put aside

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:56 PM

Dec 4

in favour of might.

ZonkerHarris

(25,425 posts)

2. We need wartime consiglieres. We're going to the mattresses.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2024, 11:31 PM

Dec 4

newdeal2

(1,135 posts)

4. With what power?

Reply to ZonkerHarris (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:12 AM

Dec 5

Not much you can do in the minority besides create a bit of noise.

The best option IMO is to find leaders (new or old) who can pick off a few Republicans to vote our way on some key issues.

calimary

(84,607 posts)

5. Well, if noise is all you've got, then USE it and MAKE THE MOST OF IT!

Reply to newdeal2 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:23 AM

Dec 5

Let’s not forget how far the bad guys got, even as the minority party. Why can’t WE do that, since we’re the minority party now, however narrowly?

lees1975

(6,101 posts)

6. Oh, here we go with the "Democrats in Disarray" narrative again.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:37 AM

Dec 5

More BS from the biased propaganda outlets, we have no more free press or genuine, free media not owned by corporate billionaire interests.

applegrove

(123,610 posts)

7. The article is more about Democrats steeling their

Reply to lees1975 (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:42 AM

Dec 5

ranks and letting those with might lead.

Owens

(352 posts)

8. I think they are listening

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:52 AM

Dec 5

I think some of the younger Democrats are listening to their constituents and hearing the outrage on social media that the Democrats are the party of wimps. The older long-term Democrats still have their heads in the sand. Jeffers has been a little too chummy with Mike Johnson and posting Bible verses on social media. He's not a fighter.

Linda ladeewolf

(492 posts)

9. It's time

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:38 AM

Dec 5

The old guard is really old, they need to step back and let the younger ones that are capable lead. I’m 70 and I’m tired, I’d be happy to let someone else take over if they were able. Jerry Nadler is a good leader but he has to have been worried about who would take his place if he steps back. Now he can just do his job of voting and not have to lead or worry, the future will be in good hands.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,163 posts)

11. I'm 54 and

Reply to Linda ladeewolf (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:58 AM

Dec 5

One of the things I was so excited about was finally having someone of the younger generation lead us. Old white men have brought us here and we are tired of letting them run our country.

So, I agree with prioritizing youth and fighting spirit over seniority

NotHardly

(1,370 posts)

10. I for one surely hope for the Dems to show some balls & vagina strength

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:53 AM

Dec 5

I am so tired of the weakas* sh*t and dithering from the Dems ... surely they have gotten the hint that dithering is a losing consideration. They have dithered themselves and us into a hell bent situation for the next 4 years. The number and types of Concentration Camps we will all be in is alarming.

Oneironaut

(5,808 posts)

12. The "Kill them with kindness" and "So what if Trump creates camps? It'll be over in 4 years" people need to go.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:28 PM

Dec 5

They aren’t saying the second thing, obviously, but, their silence is loud af.

Our party lost control of the working class. We need to get it back. The answer is not to become more Conservative, quieter, and more passive. We need a new generation of leaders to energize the base and piss people off. We need to be louder and everywhere.

Anyone who isn’t fighting Trump at every turn loudly needs to gtfo. There’s too much at stake now. Trumps going to fuck the economy, and, letting that opportunity go by would be insurmountably stupid.

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