Let's be clear, no one here has said the murder is "okay".

Better do more reading.

....to stir up something very ugly.

Some here, myself included, have no personal connection to this man and only know that he will no longer be doing the very bad things he had been doing to many people, but I haven't seen anyone claiming that assasination is okay, or good, for any reason, in any post.

Many people are recognizing that I'm doing exactly that.

As long as they don't shoot me in the back somewhere.

That's awful! Seems like a DU crime wave that I've totally missed!

I had one guy threaten to come to my house and kick my ass, though. I wrote back, "Come on by. I'll pour you a cup of coffee." Never heard from him again.

This thread is not about people attacking me, though. It's about something else. I guess I didn't make it clear enough, eh?

I thought it was an actual concern.

But it's just a strawman. What a relief!

just a "bit" of contradiction. It is blatant promotion of murder.
There are days when I question my affiliations.

...it's a very busy topic here, I imagine the instigators will show up soon too.

It's not

“he will no longer be doing the very bad things he had been doing to many people”

replaced with the same laws and rules the insurance company has. So the excuse is strange.

The law that they can prevent their customers from getting the care they need?

Directors passed and whatever the insurance bureau passed. I’m sure there are ton more who gets to put in laws and regulations.

i am happy this is causing such outrage and publicity of the problem. In his death this man is doing more for humanity than he did in his life.
I'll save my mourning for the victims of his crimes. I don't condone their murders either.

As JFK said sometime ago,...

"Those who make peaceful protest impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable."

Also too,.. the days of bringing a plastic butter knife to a gun fight are long behind us.

These Nazis have captured full majority control of every branch of our government....

These Nazis mean business and
intend to go on a rampage of harm and violence if any effort is made to stop them.

The days of "owning the Libs" are also behind us,.. now we enter the "descimate & eliminate the Libs" phase.

.. if DonOld Doucebag did it on 5th Avenue...
in an official capacity of course..m

I came here to say that also

So there’s that….

"Nazis are always fair game", I didn't see any saying this guy was though.

Do we know if the dead guy was a nazi?

Maybe you see it differently.

* for me but nor for thee...

Insurrection bad... except to keep Trump out of office.

Gun violence bad... except when it's political violence

Free speech good... except when we don't like the content

HUH???
'
the only insurrectionist is TRUMP

by someone who will make more big bucks.

always follow the money

.... no repercussions no punishment,... go play a round of golf and enjoy yourself.

It will be interesting to know the motivation of the UCH killing. It is hard to sympathize with someone who supports insurance companies denying coverage. But, the motivation could be anything from domestic violence to corporate greed.

Murder is ugly. Whether or not we liked the corpse when alive.

I'm against it.

I never fail to be surprised from time to time. It's hard to maintain a constant ethical standard, I guess. All those exceptions, eh?

There are only a few things I think are pretty much absolutes. But there are some.

...the death of a person who used to hurt people for money, with the way that person died. Those are two different topics.

laws enacted by GOPers AND Democrats.

...I don't care that this man died, but what are accusing me of?

Edit to add: Do you think I'm the shooter?

(This is beginning to sound a lot like McCarthy's red-scare accusations)

The truth is through the actions of his company he was a threat to people. With the ascension of Trump and his facist cabinet let's be honest we are in a fight they'll do it to us without shedding a tear. They've proved that through the years and that was without having people with their values in control of government

Yes. If someone is in immediate danger of violence, then that person or someone else is justified in doing whatever is require to stop a violent act. Absolutely.

That's pretty much universally accepted by societies.

But, it is the immediacy that is the salient factor.

If the threat is diffuse, however, and not necessarily connected to an individual set on doing harm right then, shooting that person in the back on the street is not defensible. Nope.

No, it actually isn't. Buddhism and Jainism, for instance, don't teach that.

So, let's just admit these are all SUBJECTIVE. So it's not very persuasive to just make declarations of right and wrong as if you're the arbiter and have some lock on objective morality.

decisions for UnitedHealthcare by himself? He was a part of a huge corporation. Are you advocating that people murder every employee?

But he was part of the people putting those policies into place that kill and injured innocent Americans who pay their hard earned dollars to these companies

So, no matter the crime, I believe in incarceration that fits the crime, not the taking of one's life.

Raping & killing a 9yr old doesn't deserve a life sentence.

Certain crimes deserve the death penalty.

Our stance is not popular with many on this board, but I stand by it.

we can understand why it happened, which is not to condone it.
Let's say a loved one dies because of denied access to medical care. The proper response is to accept it and move on. That's just the way it is. Some might see that as acquiescing to a heartless overlord and fight back. I can understand that and be grateful I have not been put into that position.
Maybe we should be looking at the root cause of this event.

Fasten your seatbelt. This country is armed to the teeth and corporations have gained a lot of power over us. Not everyone is going to take kindly to that.

in a care facility due to neglect and ignorance of normal precautions. That person died unnecessarily. Nobody responsible of the negligence got killed because of that, though. Instead, that care facility and the organization that ran it is now bankrupt and shut down. Relatives of the victims took legal action. A very large sum was awarded that exceeded the ability of the care facility to pay. So, that was the end of that facility and the organization.

It is the fear of that sort of consequence that keeps people doing their best to avoid such incidents.

That, of course, does nothing to easy the grief of the family of the person who died. But, that is not guaranteed. Justice, however, can be delivered.

is a different animal. Unless you can get media to cover the story, or have lots of money to spend on lawyers, the insurance company is in charge. Insurance companies are in no fear of consequences. There is no justice when the patient has died - just grief and anger.

Insurance companies are loaded with lawyers and they will fight to the death for their employers. The average person does not have a chance.
These are life and death for all involved.

The illustration provided was about a single person at a single care facility. This dude lead a company that killed thousands with their claim denials. It doesn't matter if it's a fast assault or a slow one. Death by a thousand cuts is still death, and each one of those dead patients were killed by a thousand metaphorical paper cuts.

the 'little people' are fed up with the greed and indifference of the rich.

... denyal of care policy.

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Moderators Delete Reddit Thread as Doctors Torch Dead UnitedHealthcare CEO

Doctors in one of the Internet’s top medical communities have turned on the murdered UnitedHealthcare (UHC) CEO Brian Thompson in such brutal fashion that Reddit moderators deleted a thread on the killing.

The moderators of r/medicine closed the thread, posted Wednesday after news broke that Thompson was shot dead outside the New York Hilton hotel in Midtown Manhattan, after it racked up over 500 replies.

The commenters overwhelmingly criticized—and satirized—the insurer’s alleged denial of coverage to sick and dying Americans in order to juice profits.

The top comment, which received hundreds of supporting upvotes from other users, mocked UHC’s notorious track record for refusing to pay out insurance claims and is written as a lengthy, spoof rejection letter from the company.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/medical-subreddit-deletes-thread-unitedhealthcare-155829903.html

One type of murder is OK.

One is not.

This creates a lot of resentment and morally ambiguous behavior.

It’s just tsk tsk mourn harder.

People are murdered every day, but I guess rich, white, male ceo's deserve sympathy and non-stop air-time. For some reason.

Was good for Americans but bad for the British.

Corporations like United Healthcare create monopolies, and its clients become slaves.

Would the rich slave owners have given their slaves freedom without the Civil War?

How long before a hard rain’s a gonna fall?

In the back, front, side, head or legs and arms.

the shooter will face a long prison sentence.

It's also not OK for a CEO to make million$ in compensation for hastening the death of sick policyholders by denying them coverage when they need life-saving medical care. Sadly, in this country that's not considered a crime, much less "murder,." It's considered good business.

I'm curious how it's possible to be guilt-tripped for observing some hard consequences. Consequences that, by definition, are bound to occur, statistically speaking.

Front, side, head, whatever.

No one is advocating murder. No one is saying murder is justified. People are saying they are not unhappy that the victim of the unjustified murder is someone they have issues with.

Big Fucking Difference.

... thank you. Some of the posts I see suggest otherwise. I said some. I said suggest. On a parallel line it is NEVER okay to rape someone in jail. Even if they did something horrible. Even if they are guilty. Rape is wrong.

Said the Little Red Hen

I am 100% positive no DUer is shooting anyone. Unless they're saving the lives of the innocent. This man lived in luxury heading a pretty scummy company. Don't think he should be shot, but don't really care too much either. UHC almost killed a friend.

through the day these days.

If I don't have any influence over it, I am not going to get in a twist over it.

If I could have stopped the shooter, would I have? Sure. But I have no influence over it. So I have little concern about it. I can only watch it from the sidelines and think, "Huh. Denzel Washington made a move about this decades ago. Surprised it didn't happen sooner."

Gambling debts. Whistleblower. Insurance money (wife?). But maybe the peons are getting fed up finally..itll be interesting.

now THAT is funny

as an official act.

Thanks, corrupt SCOTUS 6 for giving him impunity immunity.

I used to post a lot that I think the immunity ruling must be overturned. No chance of that now.

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with that weird voice utter the words that a president can kill if it's an k 'official act' and be. immune to punishment.

They listened, loved it and ruled that a president can kill. They granted him dictatorship, as if they knew what the outcome of the election would be.

H-m-m-m-m? I better shut up now. The DU conspiracy theory naysayers will be on my ass (I once posted some Sarah Kenzior stuff to look at, not saying I agreed with it all).

wear white sheets and pointy hats.

But I'm not shedding any tears either.

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He was a bad man who made decisions that were just as cold blooded and murderous as the person who killed him. After the way regular people have been getting screwed by insurance companies it is surprising it hasn't happened before now.
I wouldn't do it, but it was inevitable that someone would in today's world. I'm not going to apologize for seeing reality as it is. Nor am I going to act like I'm sooo upset some uber-rich ahole paid the ultimate price for their avarice. I feel bad for his family but at least they didn't lose their loved one and then also lose everything after getting drowned in medical bills. They're still richer than the rest of us put together.

Kudos to you!

Even when I don't want to follow them.

OK. You're such a hard and fast rules person! Kudos!

I got a chuckle out of that

It's quite disconcerting how everyone else is shooting up the place.

If only everyone else here would follow those same hard and fast rules as you do! If only they would quit with all the murdering!!

Only in this case it's vigilante with a gun.

This is what happens when 450,000,000 privately owned firearms collides with a healthcare system that puts profits over people.

We may never know. I maintain that it is wrong to do what he did, regardless.