About this doge shit. Millions of people would be horribly displaced at the pleasure of musk and that other jackass for absolutely nothing but a guarantee of a no questions asked tax break.

So we will see the robber barons surrounded by their body guards at all time.

Musk will probably make the US government pay for his security.

He had the website that followed the whereabouts of his private plane shut down because it posed a perceived security threat.

I'm not in any way saying people with Elon Musk money don't get threatened. Extortion, threats of kidnapping family members or key business associates, robbery, and death by random wack job are realities they deal with and most have some level of security.

People in general are angry at the corrupt and evil billionaires.

And Musk is talking about doing away with SS and Medicare.
He is also threatening entire federal departments and specific employees.

The anger and vitriol directed at the UHC CEO is likely only the tip of the iceberg of what's boiling beneath the surface, folks.

I'm only surprised that it took this long to really start to well up. I don't think we've really seen anything yet.

IMHO, this is the wrong time for Musk and his ilk to be thinking they can pull off raiding Social Security. All the money on Earth won't protect them from the wrath of a people wronged by such avarice and malice.

American sleep walking zombies seem to have awakened and screaming the same tune.

At long last.

I think it is a good sign. There is life after all.

I don't know if Musk and the other evil billionaires will care about American anger.
These billionaires assume they are immune from such worries.
Climate change, rebellion, pollution, none of it worries them.
They live in their little luxurious and pampered bubbles.

Instead of the secure fortress they thought they were creating for themselves.

Trapped by their enormous greed.

Paraphrased, "I've never wished death on someone, but there are obituaries I have read with pleasure."

how they think they will stop it. How do you stop a president who thinks he is no longer bound by elections and laws, a malignant narcissist who can't conceive of other people's pain? We don't really expect to storm the White House do we?

Can the wrath of the people at least reach the people who must support Trump to make his crimes happen?
Are we stronger than Putin's Russia and Hitler's Germany? Will we in the end refuse to do what the demagogue demands?

I would say they are doing a good job of it so far.

like the "norm" about not killing rich people.

discussion about crime and punishment. In the meantime I do believe the cold class war has turned hot.

It's always tilted in favor of the powerful, wealthy, and well-connected class of white men.

Some of Trump's serious crimes played out on TV right in front of our eyes.
The insurrection, the theft of classified documents.
The trials with witnesses and evidence on display.

And not only does he get off the hook for all of it.
He scams his way back into the WH.

And assembles a criminal cabal to run the government.

Of course he was riding high until he wasn't.

Shot himself in the mouth like the deranged punk he was and then got to know Madame la Guillotine up close and personal himself.

Vive la révolution!

1. American judges have made it clear that there is no rule of law for rich white powerful males.

2. At the same time draconian abusive laws are passed which make it a crime to treat a dying pregnant woman to save her life.

3. Greedy billionaires bribe corrupt politicians which allow the murder, injury, pain, theft, scamming of the American people. It is all legal. The best sociopaths don't break the law, they make it.

4. Soon we will have a country run by a rapist, traitor, career criminal. A mob syndicate is in charge of our country.

5. All the people have left is street justice. A sad commentary on our society but understandable.

Street justice. People have learned they cannot trust the judicial system to be impartial. I don’t approve, but completely understand why this is happening and what is driving it.

Revolution may be on its way.

The system has caused society to push back in the only way it can.

Even when persons has kill millions. But, it does feel justified for those that lost people in those millions by the people that killed millions.

Be it self defense
Be it for profits
Be it for war
Be it for punishment of crimes

It is condoned in this society.

75 million people were killed in WWII.
He caused their deaths.

I don't have an answer, I am just asking the question.

Normally I am a big rule of law type person.
But American judges have shown us there is no rule of law for rich white men.
Just for us suckers and losers.

If you encountered Hitler in 1900 with full accurate knowledge of WW2, would you kill the 11-year-old boy you are facing?

Kill a child or let him live, millions of lives depend on your choice.

How do we know when we've come to that point?

Certainly not before we try everything else.

We have found out that there are no guardrails.
No rule of law.

The entire US government folded like lawn chairs for the criminal cabal now in charge.
All three branches of government will work for mob bosses who will run the country.

understand that violence doesn't reward the good, and the other side is better armed.

We have no idea at this point.

The same thing you state was true of our Founding Fathers.
They were up against all odds.

A ragtag US army of plain old farmers.
Against one of the greatest armies of all times, the British.

Our founding fathers risked their lives to fight the good fight.
They knew they faced certain death.
But they persisted anyway and founded the greatest democracy in the history of the world.

So here we are again, at the same crossroad.

The best generals were Southerners. The South more eager to fight. It went very badly for the North for quite awhile. If it hadn't, the emancipation proclamation wouldn't have happened, so sometimes maybe things happen for reasons we don't understand.

Japan and German were formidable enemies.
At the beginning of the war, the US didn't have much a military.
Europe was easily invaded by Hitler.
England was the only one willing to fight back.

Japan carried out Pearl Harbor.

Both the Germans and Japanese were fierce fighters.

There was no guarantee the US would win the war.

So the US has survived through sheer determination on a number of occasions.

But this time GOP leaders betrayed us and handed us over to Putin.

Will the US fight back this time?
Or is it over?

I don't know.

and they will control the US military and nukes. Who can fight against that?

So we'll have to win another way. i'm hoping we 50% are too strong and the low info Trump voters will become disillusioned and there aren't enough judges and soldiers willing to do Trump's worst.

Right now the delusions and gullability of the Trump voters is so profound that we'd better do something about it fast, while we control enough media to get the word out.

While Trump would use the military on Americans and nuke the entire country in a heartbeat if it suited him,
I don't know if the military will go along with it.

When Trump was in the WH the last time, I head a rumor that Pelosi, McConnell, and the Pentagon had
an agreement that the military would go through them if Trump started giving crazy orders.

It usually falls to We The People to revolt against a dictatorship.
And the MAGA cult is strong and still deluded.
So it make take some time for them to learn things the hard way.

When a society gets to the point where there is no recourse or solution to people getting ripped off or cheated or harmed in a number of different ways then sometimes society takes care of it itself

Murder is wrong regardless of who does it

How come it is OK for them to rob, cheat, scam, kill, injure Americans?

But Americans cannot fight back?

I am not disagreeing with your comment.

I am just asking questions.

So the murder is ongoing.

of Predatory Capitalistic companies hire 24 hour body guards?

I don't know what happened with this CEO's security team.

before the people ran out of their thirst for blood. The guillotine kept falling long after Louis was dead.

Many of the original leaders met the same end as the king they overthrew. It pays to consider what history teaches us, so we do not repeat past mistakes.

I am not condoning it, just explaining that morality doesn’t apply even if a person thinks it does.

Humans, when pushed to survive, will kill to do it, even if that killing is just a warning to those causing their existential crisis. History tells us it won’t end with a warning, and as you point out, will go well beyond the intended result.

the decisions. This man was a part of a huge corporation. Are you ready to kill all of it's board of directors, including the two MDs? Or should all of its 440,000 employees be held liable?

Work to eliminate the power of corporations and private providers, but don't support murder.

Each person has to decide whether they want a life of wrong doing and evil.

Or making the world a better place.

Or at least be a neutral. Neither good nor bad.

We cannot just talk about people following orders and being part of an evil machine.
So it is OK.

Nuremberg didn't buy that excuse, and I don't either.

shareholders and performed his duties as taught in US business schools? Give me a break.

He was on his way to pitch UH's brand of death care to investors. It would have been a good day to get richer in the long game.

How many thousands of deaths was he culpable for? How much pain and misery did he and his employees turn their backs on while congratulating themselves all the way to the bank? He was a tapeworm.

to civil problems. I strongly disagree.

All solutions have been ignored ir discounted.

What happened is a response to an existential threat. When only the wealthy have medical security, and people are dying simply because they are not billionaires, it is a massive problem for the people. And when all non-violent solutions are blocked, the people will find other solutions to their existential threat. It is not a promotion, simply recognition of reality, human nature, and what will result should nothing change.

setting me straight. Think I'll just step away from DU insa ity for awhile.

right here on DU

The words on the bullets made it clear what the motive was.

We don't know the who yet.

Without the rule of law, we have violence and either anarchy or tyranny.

Unfortunately for the corporate sociopaths who bankrolled this, that cuts both ways.

I don't condone extrajudicial violence but I note the circumstances under which more and more people are going to be driven to it.

We did not create those circumstances.

It didn't occur to them that doing away with the rule of law might come back to haunt them.

These bastards are intentionally accelerating the climate catastrophe. The techlib-fascists are not delusional about the climate problem at all. They apparently are going for the 'sudden population reduction solution', and its nationalist-fascist rationalization of 'but just everyone else's population', with of course a lot of rules about who is in and who is out.

Another wealthy, uncaring equally $hitty white man.

This was cold, calculated murder by someone who likely had reached the end of their rope.

refusing to provide medical care. If that is not fuckin sanctioning death.

Like when Columbine led to more and more school shootings.

we have vastly more in common than what separates us. The reaction to this seems to be universal among us proles.

Sorry, but people can only take so much abuse. Even those who turn the other cheek until both are bright red have a breaking point. They're fooling themselves if they think they don't. Not sure if the shooter reached his. If so, I am surprised it took this long.

You are better than me.

It’s what you want to hear, so there it is. Enjoy your moral superiority.

W.T.F.

Remember Kyle Rittenhouse?

W T F

All I did was point out how our United States Justice system worked out for a guy who fucking murdered two people on a city street.

very tired of this, and disgusted

Hilarious 🤣

You are best served not putting words in other people’s mouths.

If you were paying attention, you would note that I already said I do not condone it. I am merely presenting reality to those who are ignoring it.

UGH

They best pay attention now.

They have proven their blindness undermines their cause.

They'll just get more security and blame it on society.

that the words on the casings were designed to make it look like a disgruntled consumer (or the relative of one) wanted the authorities to think that was the reason for the hit.

He says there’s a contingent insisting that the wife paid for a hit.

There’s only one wife and millions of disgruntled customers, so the odds are with the customers. But you do never know.

That said, stranger things have happened

So it’s speculation at this point. The French revolution was a brutal time. And I do not approve of the murders that happened then. Well, I don’t think what happened then is happening here specifically, I’m talking about comments here etc. I think that in that period the revolutionaries became just as bad as what they were fighting against. Each case and each conflict is different. Throughout history.

N/t

And he was on his way to an investor meeting to find out how he could squeeze even more money out of us. Greedy AF. And you can't take it with you.