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sarisataka

(21,284 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 02:36 PM Dec 8

Do the ends justify the means

Most people have moral standards. Likewise they can have some exceptions to those standards.

It begs the question therefore in attempting to reach some goal perceived as good, do the ends justify the means?


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No
7 (19%)
Yes
0 (0%)
Sometimes
6 (17%)
It depends on the end
19 (53%)
It depends on the means
3 (8%)
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1 (3%)
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Do the ends justify the means (Original Post) sarisataka Dec 8 OP
For those who chose one of the "maybe" answers, MineralMan Dec 8 #1
In school... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 8 #2
Since murder is now okay. My list is growing. Patton French Dec 8 #3
Murder isn't OK Bettie Dec 8 #5
Each case is individual Meowmee Dec 8 #4
What ends? Iggo Dec 8 #6

MineralMan

(147,995 posts)
1. For those who chose one of the "maybe" answers,
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 03:21 PM
Dec 8

The ends either justify the means or they do not. If you start piling conditions on the question, there is no rule involved.

For each person, conditions depend on their own personal beliefs. That renders the question unanswerable.

It's a simple question. The answer is either "yes" or "no." There is no maybe as a possibility.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,599 posts)
2. In school...
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 05:04 PM
Dec 8

...this would be one of the pages in the workbook that has a note at bottom saying that the solution is left as an exercise.

It's a good idea to have an opinion ahead on what means are within your moral standards and which aren't.

IMO, it's better to ask "should I" before asking "can I". Hindsight has a way of degrading one's original intentions.
OTOH, if the ends can't justify the means, what can?

Bettie

(17,390 posts)
5. Murder isn't OK
Sun Dec 8, 2024, 07:43 PM
Dec 8

but my not caring if a man whose job it is to find new and more creative ways to deny necessary health care to people is dead is OK.

When that orange man dies, I also won't care.

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