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SRK65802

(16 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:14 AM Dec 9

I'm happy Joe pardoned Hunter and would be fine if that's his last official act in office. He owes the party nothing.

This is how the 'party' has thanked him for fifty years of public service and support.

Honestly - the Pelosi's/Clyburn's/Klobuchar's etc should be ashamed of themselves. Keep throwing
knives until the guy leaves. That's UNITY!

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I'm happy Joe pardoned Hunter and would be fine if that's his last official act in office. He owes the party nothing. (Original Post) SRK65802 Dec 9 OP
I agree. LoisB Dec 9 #1
Same here Rebl2 Dec 9 #3
Agreed nt XanaDUer2 Dec 9 #2
To hell with that crap. Joe owes nobody anything. They stood back and allowed his son to be Autumn Dec 9 #4
They'll get the same in return. onecaliberal Dec 9 #5
They are more comfortable going after him than Trump newdeal2 Dec 9 #6
Its safer quakerboy Dec 9 #16
The media especially. There is a joke of an article posted from Wall street journal JI7 Dec 9 #7
Agree Easterncedar Dec 9 #8
I'm happy too, but he does owe us something ecstatic Dec 9 #9
She won't do anything different than Biden did, By the time she got an AG in , trump would be in office. Autumn Dec 9 #10
Actually, he is still President until 12:01 pm on January 20th. niyad Dec 9 #13
The bottom line, we have no idea what Joe and his crew are doing. Biophilic Dec 9 #14
I hope one of his last acts is to put the Equal Rights Amendment on the books. GoCubsGo Dec 9 #11
He probably doesn't think it will hold up, since a few states rescinded and the 1982 expiration has long passed Polybius Dec 9 #23
too true marti Dec 9 #12
Not me. I want him to do his job until his last day. Iggo Dec 9 #15
Yup. quakerboy Dec 9 #17
I hope Joe pardons a bunch of other people. patphil Dec 9 #18
I just hve to say... 2naSalit Dec 9 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 9 #22
Joe is/was a truly great president, but johnnyplankton Dec 9 #20
Agreed - many had strong doubts about Harris being nationally electable, but in July 2024, there was no question that Midwestern Democrat Dec 10 #25
People need to get a clue wryter2000 Dec 9 #21
Yep. I have no problem whatsoever about the pardon. I hope Biden pardons a lot more people. mucholderthandirt Dec 10 #24

Autumn

(46,609 posts)
4. To hell with that crap. Joe owes nobody anything. They stood back and allowed his son to be
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:19 AM
Dec 9

attacked, smeared and hounded for eight years. What were those Dems doing about that?

quakerboy

(14,186 posts)
16. Its safer
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:01 PM
Dec 9

Biden hasnt done revenge. Trump does. Biden is on his way out. Trump on his way in. Biden follows rules and norms. Trump doesnt give a shit about that, only what power will allow.

Any politician with an ounce of brains can figure what the future may hold. And with all due respect, the republicans want it, and many of the dems lack conviction. When things start to go poorly, there will be a split in our party, between the ones that break for the new order out of self preservation and those that find inner conviction despite the likely personal costs.

JI7

(90,803 posts)
7. The media especially. There is a joke of an article posted from Wall street journal
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:25 AM
Dec 9

blaming Biden for what Trump is doing now.

These whores gave Trump a pass and propped him up for the past 8+ years and are now blaming Biden for it.

ecstatic

(34,490 posts)
9. I'm happy too, but he does owe us something
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:44 AM
Dec 9

"Owes us nothing," is not how it works. He's still president until January 19th.

Biden's AG was a complete disaster and did not protect us at all from rightwing lawlessness and terrorism. He has a limited period of time to put things in place to protect us now. If he's depressed or angry, step aside and let Kamala Harris step up.

Autumn

(46,609 posts)
10. She won't do anything different than Biden did, By the time she got an AG in , trump would be in office.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 11:53 AM
Dec 9

She lost her chance to do anything about trump.

Biophilic

(4,937 posts)
14. The bottom line, we have no idea what Joe and his crew are doing.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:37 PM
Dec 9

The media is totally unreliable and the White House and others are hopefully busy doing what they can to help us remain a democracy. His team has done yeoman work over the last 4 years and there is no reason to think they are different. Yeah, the AG sucks, but the rest have been steady and busy. The fact that the out in the public eye politicians appear to be looking to work with trump and his team may be camouflage and it may be political creatures playing political games. They make me angry, but I'm viewing all this from such a distance that it's hard to see through the rain of misinformation.

GoCubsGo

(33,126 posts)
11. I hope one of his last acts is to put the Equal Rights Amendment on the books.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:26 PM
Dec 9

All that's needed is for him to sign it into the Registry. What are you waiting for, Joe?

Polybius

(18,226 posts)
23. He probably doesn't think it will hold up, since a few states rescinded and the 1982 expiration has long passed
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 08:53 PM
Dec 9

And he probably is right.

marti

(39 posts)
12. too true
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:34 PM
Dec 9

Democrats are not going to win until we stick together and "get it together" We are forever self sabotaging

quakerboy

(14,186 posts)
17. Yup.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:05 PM
Dec 9

Thats what he signed up for. No president to date is owed popularity or pleasant words from any citizen. Thats not any part of the deal they make when they decide to run for president.

That may change soon. But for now.

patphil

(7,070 posts)
18. I hope Joe pardons a bunch of other people.
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:25 PM
Dec 9

He should also have the FBI pursuing background checks on all the creep show candidates Trump has already announced he's going to put in his administration.
These are two parting gifts President Biden can give to the American public.

2naSalit

(93,203 posts)
19. I just hve to say...
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:34 PM
Dec 9

That not only is it the apparent fate of a Democratic leader, it's also the fate of a Scorpio.

He could cure cancer, poverty, global climate crises and make everyone a millionaire and they'd still kick him to the curb at the first opportunity.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #19)

johnnyplankton

(456 posts)
20. Joe is/was a truly great president, but
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 01:54 PM
Dec 9

if anybody thinks he would have beaten Trump "if only we'd left him alone," is delusional. His best days are far behind him.

25. Agreed - many had strong doubts about Harris being nationally electable, but in July 2024, there was no question that
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:31 AM
Dec 10

replacing Biden with her or just about ANY establishment Democrat was far preferable to just letting a landslide loss happen - which would have resulted in carnage to the Democratic down ticket. I'm afraid I have to give the Democratic Party an F for how they handled the 2024 election - they just let the Biden situation go on for far too long.

wryter2000

(47,564 posts)
21. People need to get a clue
Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:20 PM
Dec 9

The Bidens put up with Republican sh*t for years. "Biden crime family." Give me a break.

All of those people know no one would have been pursued for those charges like Hunter B was if his name hadn't been Biden. We all thought it would be over when Trump lost. But that didn't happen. It would be wrong and plain stupid for Joe to leave his son in jeopardy. Do Pelosi et al. want to leave Hunter to the tender mercies of the "Rule of law"? They can't be that cruel. At least, I don't want to believe they're that cruel.

mucholderthandirt

(1,198 posts)
24. Yep. I have no problem whatsoever about the pardon. I hope Biden pardons a lot more people.
Tue Dec 10, 2024, 08:03 AM
Dec 10

I want him to push presidential power as far as he can, since the Supreme Court said Trump is a-okay no matter what he does.

Come on, Joe. Give 'em Hell, and if you can't give 'em Hell, make them wish that was the worse they could have hoped for. Just over a month to go, I bet Biden can get creative. He has nothing to lose.

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