Maybe you see more of what’s coming and the constant nitpicking about messaging and why we lost becomes tiresome. Your anger is righteous , take care of your mental and physical health and good luck.

work with trump, giving him a pardon and their deafening silence. We KNOW what he did the last time, this time it's going to be so much worse and I feel like we are on our own.

It’s,almost like the Dems are too scared to fight for us. Or maybe they’re just old and have lost their fire, I dunno. What I DO know is that we need younger people to help us fight trumps agenda.

I am aware of Clyburn and Fetterman. Any others?

I said "Democrats." But yes--Manchin, who will be gone, sing Hallelujah.

I hope things get better for you.

...maybe an adjustment to that, since most of what we go on in our representations of god is faith in something unseen and unknown, and other people's accounts of it all.

Try to take things a bit at a time, and not all at once. Focus on yourself and what you want out of life, apart from politics and politicians. Steel yourself against these cretins in whatever way you can, but also steel yourself against despair over political outcomes. It's a worthless emotion, whatever the cause.

Politics isn't most our lives, and I hope you can find separation from the worst of it all to focus on your own needs and interests outside of this political conundrum. It's eternal, but we're not.

any God would let pure evil celebrate such a triumphant victory with literally everything on the line... And the worst part is it's my friends and neighbors merrily voting for irrational batshit insanity.

I know good doesn't ALWAYS win out over evil, but we absolutely had to have this one to avoid the worst possible timeline...

and my attitude is you can have that gawd if this is the outcome. If your faith in such a thing has always been a given for you, or important for you, I can see how this may complicate your feelings at this time.

I still believe in Love, though!

...but intervening in worldly events just isn't His style. In other words, we're on our own. Remember that old WWII song, "Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition"? No one's coming to save us except ourselves!

Thank you for your thoughtful post.

I don't think God did this to us. I think we, as a nation of fools, did it to ourselves. I still can take solace that God is still with us if we seek Him. This may sound nutty but I'm going to enjoy seeing the mess they make and the remorse that people feel when they realize what they've done, if they have enough brain power to figure it out. Debatable.

I wrote this as a response to Brian Thompson's death the day after but I was hesitant to post it. Until now. I hope it helps you to know you're not alone.
I'm sure we are feeling like the Jan sixers felt. The difference is our response. Some might call our restraint cowardice and they would be mistaken. Civility requires us to live by rules that we must respect to maintain order otherwise we're just another angry mob. Civility requires the courageous to protect the peaceful. I have lived my life full of hope for tomorrow to be better than today. It's given me strength through a tumultuous life. On November 5th 2024 I lost hope. It's worse than 2016 when I realized I underestimated the hatred of America against people that are different. We had 4 years to get to know the monster and his evil. Then, I had hoped 45 would be better than I expected. He was not. A hateful ill informed America put him back in office. Today I fear for our country and my brothers and sisters. Not just fear of him or his policies but of the things I'm incapable of imagining, the unknowable. I grew up with fear. I used it to become strong, to act in spite of fear. This is different. I fear what I might become, what I might do. Hate is replacing hope. Apathy is replacing empathy. I think Brian Thompson might be the beginning of the end of civility. I'm glad they fly their flags, wear their hats and their costumes so I know where to direct my hate but what about those hidden amongst us, my neighbors. I don't talk politics in public because I don't really want to find a new enemy to hate. I guess all hope is not lost, yet. I still want civilty. But I'm changing.

“Civility requires us to live by rules that we must respect to maintain order, otherwise we're just another angry mob. Civility requires the courageous to protect the peaceful.”

LOVE this! Reads like poetry, AND thought provoking as all-get-out, my friend.

We all have much more to go through. And we all need to keep our wits about us.

Otherwise I wouldn't have been in the mood for self-reflection and contrition 😅

My filters are barely holding, some days less than others. Trying to cut others more slack because so many are so disappointed in our fellow citizens.

Just a side note, have notice a lot more red light runners and other dangerous behaviors on the roads since the election. A lot of us are justifiably angry and depressed, but is seems a lot of 'them' now consider rule and laws as having been voided altogether since the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist is heading back to the White House.

The trucks parked in the middle of the street
Or hanging out in the street
With blinkers on

The mail person parks legally.
The delivery fellow knows no parking rules.

Life is and has been challenging.

We must watch out for each other so that we can collectively enact political change.

Since Trump left office in 2021, I had considered it inconceivable that there would ever be a set of circumstances that would allow him to get back into power.

We long debated whether he would ultimately be imprisoned for his crimes or whether he would just live out his life a bitter, beaten, sick and pathetic old man. But we took satisfaction in knowing that our younger generation and people all around the world would finally get to see the ultimate result of what happens in the United States of America to evil, corrupt, criminals like Donald Trump.

The election didn't just damage our reputation, it destroyed our national integrity.

I was 100% wrong about literally everything for the last 4 years...

I'd screamed to my friends and relatives Trump had a higher chance of being in prison than ever seeing the White House again....

Then I argued that the law would prohibit him from ever running again...

Then I argued that the Republican Party itself would stop him from running...

Then I argued that there was no way Biden would drop out... (One thing I WAS right about was the media dropping the "age and mental decline" discussion the second Biden dropped out instead of turning their focus on Donnie's age and senility)

After that I argued Harris wouldn't be the nominee...

And after seeing all the enthusiasm and donations and endorsements and excitement and new voter registration I argued that there was no way Harris would lose to a convicted Nazi madman criminal who couldn't even speak coherently...

So I don't even know what's real anymore...

What I missed but I feel much of this, especially being blind rage mad. I can't deal with the holidays,, I'm going to muddle through it. I alienated my trumpet family members and that's a shit ton of people.
Good luck with everything.

Meditate daily, in whatever way you can and stay away from the news if you can just take news in small bites.

I’m glad you’re seeing a professional.

And it takes a lot of integrity to apologize. Having said that, I think we can all understand the blind rage that you're experiencing. I certainly am struggling with it. I'm angry to the point of crying - that's just how I deal with rage. Please don't blame yourself, no self-loathing allowed! You're aware of the struggle you're having, seeking help and doing your best.

I've been struggling with anxiety and depression. It blew up last Christmas day and I ended up in the hospital. Thought I was having a heart attack.

Been working with a wonderful therapist and finally realized that this anger and fear goes all the way back to election day 2016.

Djt has been living in my head rent free.

No more.

I stay abreast of current events with DU and the Seattle Times. MSNBC has been Trump 24/7, and I can't take it anymore.

We will get through this time by staying connected and taking care of ourselves.

❤️

Got me in trouble here and almost cost me my marriage. Good you can see it and adjust.

by finding ways to help those who are in the most immediate danger from the incoming administration. We are ALL in danger of losing our rights, but certain groups are definitely in the crosshairs.

And if being with people is hard for any reason, there are things you can do for the planet. Even walking the neighborhood with a small bag for collecting trash makes me feel a bit better.

It'll make it easier to deal with other people.

Glad you're seeking professional help.

And I 'get' you. And you aren't the only one.

I feel similarly, not sure I can survive another 4 years or whatever.

His torture and extra-judicial execution center has left me afraid.

I’m no longer angry - I’m afraid.

Just let it out in safe ways-punch a pillow, go for a long walk, that kind of thing. Take care!

:::hugs:::

No worries. We tussled a little but it's all good. Thanks for your post.

it's just that right now, reality sucks

but you have us, we're in this together

I'm just like you. And I've found no way to dial it back, either. I keep trying all sorts of things. Lately, I've just been staying on the computer... especially anything that has news headlines. They hike my BP and scare me to death. Like you, I don't even know if I'll be here the next election to vote the idiot out. As it stands now, sleep is my favorite past time. I may do a short review of headlines once I wake up, but then put it down unless I find a message like yours that strikes me.

I gave up believing in god a long time ago. Even my current practices don't give me the comfort I once found in them. If there is any sort of higher beings, I think they gave up on us and vamoosed a long time ago. We're not worth it, IMO. I've been re-watching Babylon 5 and, as a Trekker, I can't help but compare the two. While I have always longed to see humanity move to a future like that depicted in Star Trek, I fear we'll always be set on a Bab5 default. Military... violence... cruelty. As a former flower child, I held on to my rose colored glasses probably long after I needed to get rid of them. Looked for them prior to the election and couldn't find them in my "memory momentos box"... I guess that should have been a tell as to what was coming down the pike!

Just know you're not alone in your feelings, and that others of us are feeling the same "kill them all and let god sort them out" rage. I don't keep firearms in this house for good reason. Especially when I feel like all hope has disappeared from the world.

Your blood pressure must be sky high. MIs are no fun.

I am also hopelessly depressed and angry. I've read a few posts on this thread that express exactly what I'm feeling. I appreciate you all.

We all completely understand.

apologize to anyone I've offended. I've also made some harsh comments about Biden. It's just anger and frustration and... is this really happening again?

After that it's all good.

Some issues with “anger management.” If you are the type who “sees red” when they get angry, don’t get a gun.

primary goal has been, for years (I always say it all started with Reagan) to divide us, to create chaos, to make sure they split us in two sides hating each other. All of it causes anxiety, to find that some people will not even listen can bring us to desperation, and thus the way you feel today. We have all let these criminals get to us, but we also have inner strength, you do as well, which will bring us out of this situation, and we will win at the end.

Not believing in God is not something you need to be worried about, many of us don't and we are all doing well, start by believing in yourself, and stop watching the news for a while, it has helped me. I think the last time I watched the news was the day before the election, and I don't intend to go back to it for some time. I come to DU to get my information, and some international news who are always unbiased.

Take care, you will come out of this victorious, good people always do.

I too am getting counseling, but it's funny the guy I talk to is in Pureto Rico and he's more afraid than me, with good reason. We talk about survival strategies, focusing on the good in life and being thankful for them.

When the election first happened, I had several posts removed because I too was lashing out in anger. I hope I'm over that. Several times lately I have started a blast then deleted it before posting. I recommend that. It's quite helpful and my psych dr. friend recommended this to me 45 years ago, when we were both still young and she was working on her doctorate.