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Zorro

(16,429 posts) Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:08 AM Dec 10

Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed

Something happened to Luigi Mangione in 2023.

He had been the valedictorian of his private Maryland high school—Gilman, where annual tuition is currently $35,000—graduating in 2016. He was strong, good-looking, and smart: a golden son in a sprawling Baltimore family whose wealth had been built by his grandfather, Nicholas Mangione Sr.

The dynasty’s business interests ranged from hotels and country clubs to a radio station and a care facility for seniors that most recently declared $36 million in annual revenue. Luigi was, among dozens of Nicholas’ grandchildren—there were already 37 in 2008—the heir to his grandfather’s empire.

He went from Gilman to the University of Pennsylvania, studying computer science, starting a club where developers could build video games, working as a developer for the makers of Civilisation VI, and spending the summer of 2019 at Stanford as a teaching assistant in AI.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/luigi-mangione-went-dark-in-2023-he-returned-transformed/

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Why Luigi Mangione Went Dark in 2023 and Returned Transformed (Original Post) Zorro Dec 10 OP

The back pain issue in the article stands out, but... Dennis Donovan Dec 10 #1

His family made $36 million in revenue in one year alone - he had the resources to pay for treatment. But he may have 33taw Dec 10 #2

He most probably did have zorbasd Dec 10 #3

His family owned health facilities and his sister is a doctor. He probably did not have UHC. LeftInTX Dec 10 #7

Have had Rebl2 Dec 10 #5

Too much time in his own head. n/t S/V Loner Dec 10 #4

...and on prescription painkillers. Think. Again. Dec 10 #6

Dennis Donovan

(27,093 posts)

1. The back pain issue in the article stands out, but...

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:30 AM

Dec 10

Those close to him said he dealt with debilitating back pain. It required surgery that one friend described as “heinous” because of the “giant screws” it required.

That surgery came earlier this year, his former roommate in Hawaii, R.J. Martin, told CNN on Monday night. Martin said he saw the X-rays but hadn’t spoken to Mangione since; he had been “radio silent” over the summer, he told Honolulu Civil Beat.

Martin said Mangione had suffered lingering back issues for years. The issue was so bad, he recalled, that Mangione once became bedridden for a week after a basic surfing lesson—an apparent setback for a young man who was clearly proud of his toned physique and who had once told Martin he was “hoping to get stronger in Hawaii.”

“It was really traumatic and difficult,” Martin said. “You know, when you’re in your early twenties and you can’t, you know, do some basic things, it can be really, really difficult.”

I doubt the murder was personal. This was a rich guy - I'm sure he didn't have crappy UHC. He probably had a "gold" plan that would cover back issues.

33taw

(2,905 posts)

2. His family made $36 million in revenue in one year alone - he had the resources to pay for treatment. But he may have

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:43 AM

Dec 10

seen challenges others had.

zorbasd

(246 posts)

3. He most probably did have

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:53 AM

Dec 10

UHC, despite being from a very wealthy family, why would he go after UHC.

LeftInTX

(30,422 posts)

7. His family owned health facilities and his sister is a doctor. He probably did not have UHC.

Reply to zorbasd (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 01:21 PM

Dec 10

Unless, he was stupid. UHC appeals to those with income limits. However, we are on a special plan with UHC and haven't had issues in five years. (We're on the Teacher Retirement System plan. We do not have network limitations like HMOs)

UHC is mostly "bottom of the line" insurance offered through employees at places like WalMart etc. If given options, employees often select UHC because the premiums are low. And the horror stories are most likely from those who have HMOs. We had a Humana HMO in the early 90s and it was a disaster. We survived for one year and never again!

Rebl2

(14,902 posts)

5. Have had

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 11:13 AM

Dec 10

rheumatoid arthritis since I was nine years old and am now in my late sixties. Pretty much in pain most of my life, yet I haven’t gone out and killed anyone because of my pain. Have had surgery on a knee (not joint replacement, but a different procedure) that didn’t work. Didn’t go kill the surgeon or my doctor that suggested it. I didn’t blame them either because I knew it might or might not help. I do know back pain can be debilitating. Saw my father, uncle and a cousin suffer from it. Not an excuse to kill somebody.

S/V Loner

(9,132 posts)

4. Too much time in his own head. n/t

Reply to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 10:56 AM

Dec 10

Think. Again.

(18,778 posts)

6. ...and on prescription painkillers.

Reply to S/V Loner (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 10, 2024, 12:41 PM

Dec 10

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