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Dennis Donovan

(29,501 posts)
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 09:56 AM Dec 12

The Bulwark: Don't Let Trump Fool You, He Was Never Exonerated

The Bulwark - Don’t Let Trump Fool You, He Was Never Exonerated

His re-election doesn’t change the damning evidence of his crimes.

Will Saletan
Dec 12, 2024



DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO rewrite his history as a criminal defendant.

A few days ago on Meet the Press, the president-elect said he’d been exonerated in the cases against him. “I’ve won these cases. I’ve won every one, and the rest are in the process of being won,” he declared.

Then, on Wednesday, Trump celebrated the resignation—which he had overtly encouraged—of FBI Director Christopher Wray. He claimed that under Wray, “the FBI illegally raided my home, without cause,” and “worked diligently on illegally impeaching and indicting me.”

These are lies, and Republicans are working with Trump to spread them. They want the public to believe that the feds are the bad guys, that Trump has been vindicated, and that the proper remedy for his persecution is for officials like Wray to step aside. But Trump hasn’t been vindicated. His record in court accurately reflects his corruption: thirty-four convictions in one case, four guilty pleas from co-defendants in another, two unfinished prosecutions—including the document-retention case that involved the FBI’s search of his Mar-a-Lago home—and zero acquittals.

The snow job about Trump’s exoneration is actually three overlapping arguments. The first one is that he was cleared by courts before the election. Trump has been saying this for months. “We won the big case in Florida. We’re winning them all,” he told a crowd in September. At a rally in October, he proclaimed, “I was exonerated and fully exonerated.”

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The Bulwark: Don't Let Trump Fool You, He Was Never Exonerated (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Dec 12 OP
I suppose we can tell ourselves that if it helps us sleep at night FBaggins Dec 12 #1
"But the goal of all of those cases was to keep him from ever becoming president again..." MichMan Dec 12 #10
I'm sure it is FBaggins Dec 12 #12
Why do people keep linking to this website owned by Bill Kristol, the Neocon in chief? Seeking Serenity Dec 12 #2
Here are a couple phrases to help you through these times: intheflow Dec 12 #5
Nah, boi Seeking Serenity Dec 12 #7
I agree peregrinus Dec 12 #13
If there is ONE group I feel the most let down by... Blue_Tires Dec 12 #8
The piece was written by Will Saletan, not Bill Kristol Dennis Donovan Dec 12 #6
The insight on the bulwark YouTube channel is better than about 95 percent of what I read here. BannonsLiver Dec 12 #11
As usual, he's full of💩 spanone Dec 12 #3
K & R malaise Dec 12 #4
Convicted in a court of law. republianmushroom Dec 12 #9

FBaggins

(28,018 posts)
1. I suppose we can tell ourselves that if it helps us sleep at night
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:02 AM
Dec 12

But the goal of all of those cases was to keep him from ever becoming president again...

...and he's about to become president again.

Oh... one of them could cost him some money in the end and we know that's part of how he keeps score. But it won't be enough

MichMan

(14,318 posts)
10. "But the goal of all of those cases was to keep him from ever becoming president again..."
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:31 PM
Dec 12

Isn't that exactly what Trump has been claiming?

Seeking Serenity

(3,139 posts)
2. Why do people keep linking to this website owned by Bill Kristol, the Neocon in chief?
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:06 AM
Dec 12

Y'know, the Bill Kristol who fully supported the Chimp and Cheney and their wars of choice, the founder of the now-defunct neocon rag Weekly Standard that was a thorn in the side of the Clinton Administration. All and only because he's anti-Trump?

I spit on that!

intheflow

(29,382 posts)
5. Here are a couple phrases to help you through these times:
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:39 AM
Dec 12

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

"Politics makes strange bedfellows."

Seeking Serenity

(3,139 posts)
7. Nah, boi
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:46 AM
Dec 12

Not with blood-thirsty maniacs like Kristol. The man for whom there is not enough death (American or otherwise) possible in support of his preferred ends.

Nope. Sorry. Not willingly inviting a venomous snake into my home. Even if he says he just wants to discuss the rat problem.

En-oh spells NO! And Democrats should not be welcoming of militarists.

 

peregrinus

(409 posts)
13. I agree
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 01:34 PM
Dec 12

And if Trump invades Iran then you’ll see Bill Kristol warming up to him in a heart beat.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
8. If there is ONE group I feel the most let down by...
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:09 AM
Dec 12

It's the goddamned "Never Trump" Republicans... I was a huge supporter of them from day one... I followed dozens of them on Twitter... I thought I was part of some unstoppable bipartisan anti-Trump coalition that would defeat him forever and bring at least a little bit of sanity back to the GOP...

And for all the time, money, and energy spent, for all the flashy commercials, podcasts, memes and viral tweets they produced, they did absolutely NOTHING to convert even a minuscule number of Trumper voters over to the good side... I feel like I've been played like a fucking mark.

Dennis Donovan

(29,501 posts)
6. The piece was written by Will Saletan, not Bill Kristol
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:40 AM
Dec 12

And it's a good article. That's why I posted it.

BannonsLiver

(18,834 posts)
11. The insight on the bulwark YouTube channel is better than about 95 percent of what I read here.
Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:53 PM
Dec 12
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