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rainy

(6,267 posts) Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:51 AM Dec 12

We are headed for hell with all the big money that controls our government. Please make this the #1 goal:

Please America get money OUT of politics. We will continue to lose even if we win due to politicians being owned by donors. This is the only way to get our country back! End of discussion!

We can't do right by the people, just throw some crumbs, if we continue to allow politicians to waste time fundraising and being owned by big donors!

It's reached its zenith.
The hell-scape America is upon us!

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We are headed for hell with all the big money that controls our government. Please make this the #1 goal: (Original Post) rainy Dec 12 OP

That would require Congressional action... Dennis Donovan Dec 12 #1

But they are people. They only have money to vote with. Blue Full Moon Dec 12 #2

'America's Corruption Problem' sop Dec 12 #3

We blindly stood and let them provide a way to "legally" buy elections. Now the monster wants eliminate the...... usaf-vet Dec 12 #4

Dennis Donovan

(29,501 posts)

1. That would require Congressional action...

Reply to rainy (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:55 AM

Dec 12

...which they'll get right on once they're finished:

Blue Full Moon

(1,807 posts)

2. But they are people. They only have money to vote with.

Reply to rainy (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 10:57 AM

Dec 12

The rise of the Robber barons part 2. For the last few decades they have made heroes out of them instead of the criminals that they were. Built libraries to stay out of jail.

sop

(12,883 posts)

3. 'America's Corruption Problem'

Reply to rainy (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 11:01 AM

Dec 12

"Nearly every issue we face as a nation is caught in the grip of corruption. From taxation to national debt, education to the economy, America is struggling to address our most serious issues. Moneyed interests get what they want, and the rest of us pay the price."

https://represent.us/americas-corruption-problem/

usaf-vet

(7,318 posts)

4. We blindly stood and let them provide a way to "legally" buy elections. Now the monster wants eliminate the......

Reply to sop (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 12:47 PM

Dec 12

..... individuals' right to vote. They do this by using every method they can fabricate to suppress the individual's right to vote. We have to get money, and the power of billionaires to buy elections .... no longer possible.

One person, one vote would again balance the scales. Democrats need to focus on tactics to make the strength of one person and one vote work again.

Start with a national holiday for voting access. Make the fact that an individual pays taxes his or her ID to vote. A simple pay stub showing one has paid taxes, state, federal, and social security, is all that is needed to get the right to say who and how those taxes are used. Make the employer responsible for issuing a pay stub once a year, like a 1040 or 1099 that indicates THIS individual pays taxes and, therefore, has a right to vote.

There is no need to require an individual to acquire any other government-issued ID to get access to vote. 1040 and 1099 are documents accepted/needed when filing your taxes by April 15th.

Once an individual retires, a monthly Social Security check should be proof of paying taxes for a working lifetime.

There is no need for new, inventive ways to obtain the right to vote, like unique voter IDs issued by the "government."
Even systems of obtaining government-issued IDs are corrupted by not helping one prove who they are and, therefore, the right to vote.
As crazy as it sounds, in the state where I live, the license to carry a concealed weapon DOES NOT have a picture on the ID. Making it useless to prove you are who you say you are.

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