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angrychair

(10,236 posts) Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:44 PM Dec 12

"Woke"

Can I just say the overuse of the word "woke" by rightwing media and rightwing organizations and Republicans in general, to disparage anything and everything, is really getting fucking old. I'm tired of these fascist bullies using that word as some sort of cudgel. Enough is enough. This is a hill I'm willing to die on. Especially if that dying at least means I never have to hear that fucking word again.

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"Woke" (Original Post) angrychair Dec 12 OP

Anti-woke simply means anti-Black ThePartyThatListens Dec 12 #1

Absolutely angrychair Dec 12 #2

Ask them to explain woke The Wizard Dec 12 #3

A simple definition for something that vexes the right so much. Dennis Donovan Dec 12 #4

I woke in the 1960s. To me, it's always been synonymous with figuring out just allegorical oracle Dec 12 #5

I agree it started as a progressive term angrychair Dec 12 #7

Democrats are running away from it the way they ran away from the accusations of being Liberals, Baitball Blogger Dec 12 #6

There is no going back angrychair Dec 12 #8

That's the difference between the right and the left. Baitball Blogger Dec 12 #12

No, that word is poison angrychair Dec 12 #14

Just out of curiousity, may I ask if you have skin in the game? Baitball Blogger Dec 12 #15

And you can thank Christopher Rufo--and the various "think" tanks... keep_left Dec 12 #9

Jesus Christ preaches riverbendviewgal Dec 12 #10

At least we don't have to hear about CRT (Critical Race Theory) anymore. Midnight Writer Dec 12 #11

It's a racist dogwhistle. usonian Dec 12 #13

That's what we should have led with. Baitball Blogger Dec 12 #16

Ever since "The Southern Strategy" the GOP would get fewer votes than the Green Party without racism at its core. (IMO) usonian Dec 12 #17

ThePartyThatListens

(340 posts)

1. Anti-woke simply means anti-Black

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:46 PM

Dec 12

And they also throw everything else they don't like in there for good measure.

angrychair

(10,236 posts)

2. Absolutely

Reply to ThePartyThatListens (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:50 PM

Dec 12

I agree. It's absolutely grounded in racism.

The Wizard

(13,085 posts)

3. Ask them to explain woke

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:51 PM

Dec 12

to an 11 year old.

Dennis Donovan

(29,501 posts)

4. A simple definition for something that vexes the right so much.

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:54 PM

Dec 12

Aware of important issues.

"Woke" means being aware of and attentive to important facts and issues, especially those related to racial and social justice. For example, someone who is "woke" might be concerned that some groups in society are treated less fairly than others.

No idea why they dislike it. It's like they're offended by the thought of equality. Guess it threatens their white privilege.

allegorical oracle

(4,230 posts)

5. I woke in the 1960s. To me, it's always been synonymous with figuring out just

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:56 PM

Dec 12

how bigoted and biased and sexist our culture was/is.

angrychair

(10,236 posts)

7. I agree it started as a progressive term

Reply to allegorical oracle (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:03 PM

Dec 12

But it has now been weaponized by the right and they are now repeating it ad nauseum and I'm just tired of hearing it. I mean everything from the movies I watch to what I eat for breakfast is "woke" and I'm just done. Let's wrap it up and move on.

Baitball Blogger

(49,413 posts)

6. Democrats are running away from it the way they ran away from the accusations of being Liberals,

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 02:59 PM

Dec 12

when it's essentially the same thing.

Until you own the word woke, and align its meaning with being more like Jesus's teachings, we are probably going to lose this battle too.

angrychair

(10,236 posts)

8. There is no going back

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:13 PM

Dec 12

That word needs to be burned out of existence.
It's been overused so much and used to bully and browbeat people and organizations that there is no path to rehabilitate that it

Baitball Blogger

(49,413 posts)

12. That's the difference between the right and the left.

Reply to angrychair (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:34 PM

Dec 12

No matter what we sling at them, they find a way to make it their own.

If you run away from woke, you're essentially saying that you're running away from the Democratic commitment to supporting minority causes. Own it.

angrychair

(10,236 posts)

14. No, that word is poison

Reply to Baitball Blogger (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:00 PM

Dec 12

I just do not see it as a positive upside to progressives using it. They will just use it to poison people against you. We need to fight it with by mocking them and humiliating them and belittling them for using such a stupid word. We need to make it so toxic that people just laugh at anyone trying to use it. We need to start taking the fight to them and stop with "take the high road" stuff.

Baitball Blogger

(49,413 posts)

15. Just out of curiousity, may I ask if you have skin in the game?

Reply to angrychair (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 04:09 PM

Dec 12

Are you black or of latino descent?

It matters because it will show the internal problem we're dealing with, coming together as a united party.

keep_left

(2,736 posts)

9. And you can thank Christopher Rufo--and the various "think" tanks...

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:17 PM

Dec 12

...for which he shills--for the creation of that "snarl word". "Woke" has been overused to the point that it has lost its original meaning, and that very overuse has stretched the term to the point of meaninglessness. When the term is now bandied about by ranting priests on radtrad Catholic networks like EWTN and Relevant Radio, it's safe to say that "woke" is deader than disco.

riverbendviewgal

(4,337 posts)

10. Jesus Christ preaches

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:18 PM

Dec 12

Woke. Yes, Jesus is anti racist, anti misogynisti, anti greed. Woke os a good term for truth.

Midnight Writer

(23,478 posts)

11. At least we don't have to hear about CRT (Critical Race Theory) anymore.

Reply to angrychair (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2024, 03:27 PM

Dec 12

It has been supplanted by DEI.

And we don't have to hear about anyone being too old to serve in public office anymore. Another issue that is no longer heard about since the election.