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They've been scapegoating liberals and democrats for as long as I've been alive...49 years.

And some people leave and others get upset and wake up.

We’re not going to lose elections for the rest of time.

Not everybody can match the felon’s charisma, and those who’ve tried to run on the same policies have lost in down ballot races.

Can be changed. It would be the least crazy thing that’s happened in the last few years.

The Constitution would have to be changed, which doesn’t happen overnight and hasn’t happened for decades.

entire history of the U.S. has been happening. The Republicans are all of a sudden no fans of the Constitution. We will see the Constitution either get ignored, ripped up, the President/King not have to follow it.

No need for the job title when you can net all you need without it.

As I’m sure you know.

kings, queens etc, going back to the roman emperors after Constantine converted in the 4th century. The U.S is barely 250 years old, you know.

… enough believe believe.

they still blame Obama and Hillary

But the brainwashing media was too strong.

The Democrats should have a well-funded, full time PR team to inform citizens of what was and is being done on their behalf by Democrats and to point out the depraved Republican lies. They should run commercials year-round. Traditional media outlets are all compromised.

.... MAGA things were horrible.

Economy vote my ass, people were mic'd

This shows up every election as if it's something new.

So, yeah, it's 1933 all over again, apparently.

are taking the opportunity to stock up on things they might have waited to buy. Electronics. Appliances. As well as taking care of home maintenance stuff right now before prices go up.

Half the shoppers see higher prices on the way and are attempting to head them off. The other half think Santa Trump is coming.

So yeah, it looks like a very merry Xmas for retailers. The hangover should be fun, though.

Luckily, I’m a bit of a hoarder so I have enough hygiene products to last me for years.

The ABC report explained how tariffs could raise prices of electronics and appliances made outside US and advised that holiday sales would be a good time to get needed items before prices rise.

Gas at the beginning of 2015 was $2.51. At the end of the year it was $2.20.
Inflation at the beginning of 2015 was actually -0.1%. At the end of the year it was 0.7%.
Unemployment at the beginning of 2015 was 5.7%. At the end of the year it was 5.0%

I don't remember the media downplaying the health of the economy in 2016 like they did in 2024.

MAGATs have been fooled twice.

are in for a rude awakening, they didn't even know what "tariffs" are they are TAXES!!! and Obamacare care is the ACA. They have been played.

the orange clown is a pathological liar, but still they believed him.

I have no sympathy for MAGA plight as they suffer through the next four years.

Their collective memories of the shitstorm from January 20, 2017 to four years later seem
to be distant.

F all these stupid people.

all the cheap labor out of this country. Thinking people want to know. You can't improve the supply chain if food is rotting in the fields. And you can't lower prices if everything that gets imported is being counter tariffed by the countries that are being hit with tariffs.

But his cult believes it. They’ll be blaming Obama and Biden for the Civil War soon. They are/will be a lost generation.

But not the latter.

Them getting played would be even more humorous if the rest of us didn’t have to suffer along with them.

Meant he would be telling the truth.

He's lying. His supporters are so friggin toopid, they don't even recognize it. They will soon figure it out, but it's too late now.

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When you allow it to happen by disengaging critical thinking.you take a lot of people down with you.

They went willingly with eyes wide shut.

They continue to support a political economy that automatically tends toward destruction because it requires infinite growth in order to not collapse. That prices will not drop because of anything ther imbecile does will become irrelevant in short order. The media is already making noise about how good the economy is. And they will believe it because they want to believe it. And they want to believe Dear Leader is the cause.

The theomythology of this country is incredibly strong.

This is magnified by the right wing media structure that they've been putting together since the 80s. The lies are repeated over and over and pretty soon voters start believing we are in a recession and the price of eggs is the fault of Joe Biden. Traditional corporate media has been cowed into both-siderism afraid of being accused of the dreaded "Liberal Media" insult. This is exacerbated by media owners pulling the reins back on news departments so as not to jeopardize political favor or tax cuts.

Voters were told that the economy was the best in the world after the recovery from covid shut-downs and other good news and positive things were campaigned on. It's just that the RW noise drowned it out. It isn't a matter of listening to fly-over country, it's a matter of being able to get a message out that they will actually hear. And have it repeated over and over.

Especially not to themselves. Not without a great deal of, er, motivating factors, and even then. Don't count on anything changing because of reality.

Until a Civil War or Great Depression happens and both seem increasingly likely.

When a cultist said they’d rather love under a great depression than under socialism.

In case you wonder where we’re at.

A fucking literal James Bond villain is among the MAGA ranks, and it's the guy who wants to be a trillionaire.

I really wonder. If he was able to get elected despite all the skeletons in his closet and all of the crazy stuff he has said, I wonder.

the groceries or much of anything else actually. He hates who they hate, and that is all they need. This is why they love him. It’s why they will never leave him. The bonds of hate.

And have gone back to being a major cynic, you could very likely be correct. Cognitive Dissonance and Cults are a very powerful thing. If they haven’t turned on him for all the crazy nominees he’s put up, I believe I am seeing a trend. It is very difficult to break people from a cult and we have a lot of cult followers. I’m just glad there’s a few people like all of you at DU who can see the craziness that is going on. People do not like to admit to making horrible mistakes that end up majorly biting them in the ass.

That's the long con. Food prices and killing Social Programs those are just the lay up shots. It's way, way worse.

This is my post from an earlier similar OP.

My same response:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3355884

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. . . to smash the china shop to pieces.

Few, I bet, honestly believed this con man/clown could deliver on promises like this.

What Trump COULD do is play havoc with the system.

This is important to note because voters lie about their reasons for pulling the lever for Mango Mussolini.
And if we (the left, collectively) are waiitng for these MAGA-ats to suddenly acknowledge they were conned, well . . . it's not a con if these voters lied about the reason they re-elected this maniac in the first place, is it?

This is ID-driven nihilism in action, and I doubt most rank-and-file Trumpists could even articulate this motivation/sentiment (assuming they are fully conscious of their own motivations here.)

I want gas to be $0.50/gallon, eggs to be $1/dozen and everything else to be at least 15% less by the end of January. Oh, and I want a big fat pay raise too, because I'm Me!

IMO, they mostly knew it was bullshit, they just got in line with it because their primary motive was owning the libs.

Or crime. Maybe we just need to message better. Sometimes I think some folks here are just as gullible. It is about hate and fear and consuming information that amplifies that.

… with the article acting like Trump is adjusting some strategy to inflation and bringing prices down, rather than just flailing about, just short of suggesting that maybe injecting home disinfectants might help, and that his campaign
“promises” were just baseless pandering without any technical merit.

Where’s the news org that has a checklist of Trump’s campaign promises, and is using it to track progress?