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USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:27 PM Dec 2024

George Soros

It’s wild how Republicans turned George Soros into this sinister, shadowy billionaire supposedly plotting to control the world and “buy” Democrats, while Elon Musk is out here openly laying out his plans.

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George Soros (Original Post) USAFRetired_Liberal Dec 2024 OP
Sociopaths accuse other people of doing the crimes they themselves commit. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #1
Whatever they are saying Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #2
They accuse others of their own evil, and also insist they are doing the good other people do. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #3
You would think by now people would know their number Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #4
Yes but people really believe the lies. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #5
It is. That's why rethugs always want to cut Education funding, and the Dept. of Ed. brush Dec 2024 #26
Yes fascists always see educated people as a very big threat. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #27
It was the Nazi Playbook BOSSHOG Dec 2024 #6
Also he has to go after the people who have hard data about how and where he cheated. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #7
Maybe so, but I don't think George Soros has any of that data FakeNoose Dec 2024 #9
He is going after Soros for a specific reason. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #11
Actual quote is that he loves "uneducated" people, meaning not the "elites" they hate but elect because ... populism. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2024 #10
Hitler's speech to the Reichstag on the day that wnylib Dec 2024 #23
Thanks for that Info wnylib BOSSHOG Dec 2024 #32
Who is here or there to stop them? Asking for a friend. NotHardly Dec 2024 #30
There is no one to stop them. No one at all. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #31
The Soros thing is code for antisemitism. mucifer Dec 2024 #8
Yes Figarosmom Dec 2024 #13
It's wild how corporate media amplify the lies. ancianita Dec 2024 #12
Soros was making bigger plays cadoman Dec 2024 #15
How do they know who George Soros is? Has anyone actually talked to him? tornado34jh Dec 2024 #14
Projections. Baitball Blogger Dec 2024 #16
Soros would need to be a fucking QUADRILLIONAIRE in order to be responsible for everything Republicans have accused him Karasu Dec 2024 #17
They sure seem effective at it oldmanlynn Dec 2024 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Dec 2024 #19
the kochs have been operating for generations building the right wing ecosystem rampartd Dec 2024 #20
Elon Musk hopes to become more powerful than Putin. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2024 #21
Great OP malaise Dec 2024 #22
Elon Musk is a Foreigner Trying to Shred Our Constitution and Undermine Our Government citizen blues Dec 2024 #24
Why do we allow foreigners like Musk and Murdock own, manipulate, sway our meida/peoples' minds... brush Dec 2024 #28
Gaslighting Or Projection (G.O.P.) Dem4life1970 Dec 2024 #25
The good news is now that Elmer has proven it's all legal Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #29
I'm still waiting for my George Soros check Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2024 #33

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
1. Sociopaths accuse other people of doing the crimes they themselves commit.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:32 PM
Dec 2024

They especially like to do this with their own victims.
Accuse their victims of being ruthless criminals.

It is a way to humiliate the victim, make them angry.
And confuses the police, public, and potential judge and jury.

When it comes to the GOP crime syndicate, their accusations are always confessions.

Blue Full Moon

(3,402 posts)
2. Whatever they are saying
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:35 PM
Dec 2024

Someone else is doing is actually what they are doing or going to do.

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
3. They accuse others of their own evil, and also insist they are doing the good other people do.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:38 PM
Dec 2024
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
26. It is. That's why rethugs always want to cut Education funding, and the Dept. of Ed.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:51 PM
Dec 2024

Keep 'em dumb and ignorant, two adjectives not the same, but just the way rethugs like their supporters.

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
27. Yes fascists always see educated people as a very big threat.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:57 PM
Dec 2024

In a fascist takeover the educated class is the first to be killed or imprisoned.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
6. It was the Nazi Playbook
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:41 PM
Dec 2024

Blame others for what You Do. Lie loudly and often.

Trumps bellowing about suing an Iowa newspaper for election interference. As you Say Teammate accusations are confessions.

And to quote our next president, “I Love Stupid People.” They make it so easy for him to lie.

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
7. Also he has to go after the people who have hard data about how and where he cheated.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 10:44 PM
Dec 2024

Those are the first ones he is attacking.
The ones with proof of his cheating.

FakeNoose

(41,290 posts)
9. Maybe so, but I don't think George Soros has any of that data
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:23 PM
Dec 2024

Chump attacks anyone who doesn't fight back, because he's a bully.

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
11. He is going after Soros for a specific reason.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:26 PM
Dec 2024

He is systematically going after the people who have the goods on him.
Or stand in his way of making money or gaining more power.

I do not think his attacks are random at all.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. Actual quote is that he loves "uneducated" people, meaning not the "elites" they hate but elect because ... populism. nt
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:26 PM
Dec 2024

wnylib

(25,762 posts)
23. Hitler's speech to the Reichstag on the day that
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:09 PM
Dec 2024

Germany invaded Poland is a good example.

The entire speech was a string of lies that justified the invasion as self defense against Polish aggression and supposed mistreatment of ethnic Germans in the Polish Corridor. The Polish Corridor was established at the end of the First World War to give Poland a connection to the Baltic Sea through the Germanic state of Prussia, which was geographically located in what is now northern Poland.

Poland had no tanks and almost no planes. They still had cavalry on horseback. No way were they acting aggressively toward Germany.

The speech:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_September_1939_Reichstag_speech



BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
32. Thanks for that Info wnylib
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 10:07 PM
Dec 2024

It is incredibly sad that people past and present wake up every morning planning on hating and destroying.

Irish_Dem

(80,962 posts)
31. There is no one to stop them. No one at all.
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:41 PM
Dec 2024

None of the guardrails, checks and balances, congress, judiciary, rule of law, customs, norms, US code of justice,
US constitution, Bill of Rights, etc etc. mean a damn thing.

We found out that the entire US government is only a nice little honor system, a gentleman's agreement.
With no honor, or no gentlemen, there is no system.

We The People are entirely on our own, and at the end of the day, they let this country and our democracy down.



Figarosmom

(11,567 posts)
13. Yes
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:37 PM
Dec 2024

And anti - democracy since Soros motive is helping descracy survive. Abd I'm sure some of it comes from Putin because of Soros help in Poland with Solidarity

Then there's the jealousy of Soros actually having the money tsf says he has.

ancianita

(43,286 posts)
12. It's wild how corporate media amplify the lies.
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:32 PM
Dec 2024

Soros doesn't even make the list of top donors in 2024... take a look at the list of
Dem v Rethug donors

https://archive.ph/vMBMg

Among the ultra-rich, Trump comes out on top. The former president has gotten at least $281 million from 20 members of the wealth list. Harris’ campaign, meanwhile, has received at least $66.2 million from 24 people, including those who donated to Biden’s campaign before he stepped down. Those contributions were rolled over to her when she became the candidate.

Trump’s advantage comes down to two donors — Elon Musk and Miriam Adelson — who each gave more than $100 million. Harris’ richest billionaire donors include Meta Platforms Inc. co-founder Dustin Moskovitz and and Netflix Inc. Chairman Reed Hastings, who have each put millions of dollars behind her candidacy.


 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
15. Soros was making bigger plays
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:49 PM
Dec 2024
https://www.insideradio.com/free/george-soros-415-million-stake-in-audacy-is-billionaires-latest-radio-gambit/article_3767b086-cbd7-11ee-9fd0-571cfd16e80a.html

Making long term plans to take out the reich wing talk radio problem.

It would have been nice to see him drop some cash in a PAC, but he's going to be expected to donate big in all elections and I think we can trust him to know where to put his dollars to work for Democracy.

tornado34jh

(1,527 posts)
14. How do they know who George Soros is? Has anyone actually talked to him?
Mon Dec 16, 2024, 11:42 PM
Dec 2024

They seem so inclined to do it with Trump and Musk, yet as far as I know, I don't think I have ever heard anybody talk to him. But for me, I think the whole "shadowy billionaire" thing really more aptly applies to those people whose "dark money" are a big reason we are in this position to begin with. I'm talking about the oligarchy.

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
17. Soros would need to be a fucking QUADRILLIONAIRE in order to be responsible for everything Republicans have accused him
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 12:47 AM
Dec 2024

of doing for the last 3 decades alone. No joke.

The sheer number of conspiracy theories is fucking hilarious.

oldmanlynn

(816 posts)
18. They sure seem effective at it
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 12:52 AM
Dec 2024

It seems like republicans are controlling the talking points or conversations.

Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Original post)

rampartd

(4,534 posts)
20. the kochs have been operating for generations building the right wing ecosystem
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:31 AM
Dec 2024

project 2025 is pretty much david koch's platform from the 1980 election. this is a 2019 new republic article ......

Billionaire fossil fuel mogul David Koch died Friday. Though he will rightfully be remembered for his role in the destruction of the earth, David Koch’s influence went far beyond climate denial. Ronald Reagan may have uttered the famous words “Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem” back in 1981—but it was David Koch, along with his el.der brother Charles and a cabal of other ultrarich individuals, who truly reframed the popular view of government. Once a democratic tool used to shape the country’s future, government became seen as something intrusive and inefficient—indeed, something to be feared.

https://newrepublic.com/article/154849/david-koch-1980-fantasy

soros does contribute, but does not in any way dominate the democrats or "the left."

citizen blues

(608 posts)
24. Elon Musk is a Foreigner Trying to Shred Our Constitution and Undermine Our Government
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:10 PM
Dec 2024

In other words, he's waging a well-funded, premeditated, targetted, slow-motion, terrorist attack against the U.S.

Sounds like he just bought himself a one-way ticket to Gitmo.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
28. Why do we allow foreigners like Musk and Murdock own, manipulate, sway our meida/peoples' minds...
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:07 PM
Dec 2024

seems to me it should be against the law. The First Amendment is one thing but totally control our political process is another. We are loose with how we allow this to happeen. Social Media influencers also...Putin, the Chinese and "Tic Tok."

Their influence is out of control. They aided and abetted trump, to their benefit and we're all now dreading what's coming.

We may lose what was once America.

Dem4life1970

(1,055 posts)
25. Gaslighting Or Projection (G.O.P.)
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 08:23 PM
Dec 2024

G.O.P. stands for Gaslighting. Or. Projection. I need to copyright that.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
29. The good news is now that Elmer has proven it's all legal
Tue Dec 17, 2024, 09:11 PM
Dec 2024

Soros can now start buying voters through "raffles" 😒

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