Do not agree Biden should resign nor would I even think he’d consider it. Kamala can come out now with the kind of enthusiasm we know she has and get us excited and bring us together to fight the good fight for the next four years but where is she?

Is someone advising her to act as if things are normal and latch on to the "high road" platform, while our country is under great threat?

She has been saying things will be okay. We need to keep chins up. We need to stay in the fight. What fight? This is a takeover.

Like in countries with parliamentary systems. Let the public know who they could have had at State, Defense, HHS ... Even if Harris isn’t president, she could reveal the type of talent she would have surrounded herself with. Put them out on the shows to speak about our plans for immigration, taxation etc.

If there were to be a “shadow government” it would make sense for it to be filled by current leaders in our party, not the most recent failed candidate.

Of candidates for the Cabinet positions who could speak on specific issues to present “our side of the story.”

If the shadow cabinet thing is going to work, it has to start before TSF starts putting possible shadow secretaries in jail. Tick tock, tick tock...

For a freaking month? It's not worth it in any way, shape or form.

the wheel.

It's the Trump/Musk wheel that concerns me.
But Harris won't be able to prevent that.

Biden and Harris. I agree with you. There would be zero benefit to reducing that team.

Thought so

Superman.

break the stigma of the glass ceiling.
BTW, there are reports of other nights too.

It would also show that Democrats were willing to do the right thing when it was necessary. I think that would help set us up for future success.
Is it okay to keep a leader in place, as long as that person has good morals? Or, are there times when it becomes necessary, for the good of party, country and the world to promote someone else to the position?

are at right and for the next 4 fecking years 😖

press conference that President Biden gave during the period after the debate, in which he demonstrated his wealth of knowledge and ability to respond to questions on a variety of topics, switching from one to another easily, using no notes.

The debate was a combination of being ill and dealing with gish galloping word salads from Mr. Trump. The debate setting is not the same as a job performance setting. There are ways of dealing with gish gallopers on the job that can't be done in a debate format.

I'm curious about your focus on devaluing President Biden in the last 4 weeks of his term. The reason, or excuse, that you give about not knowing what will happen in the next 4 weeks is meaningless. It's what happens AFTER the next 4 weeks, when Mr. Trump and his clown car cabinet take over that matter.

Also, he still has VP Harris and a good cabinet to work with him.

You underestimate President Biden.

not important makes me think of your comment as ironic.

None of this makes any sense.

attention of our leader?

Easy: because such a mechanism is provided for under the 25th amendment to address circumstances where "the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office."

Where is the evidence that President is "unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office"? There is none. There is, however, ample evidence to the contrary. Even after dropping out of the presidential race, he has continued to discharge his powers and duties. He signs and vetoes bills, issues executive orders, meets with foreign leaders, both here and abroad, and so on. Poorly performing in a debate is not even in the same universe as being under anesthesia and literally not able to perform the actions assigned to the president by the constitution.

Your argument fails, miserably.

This doesn’t make any sense, there is nothing to suggest Biden and his team are incapable of staying in office another 30 days.

Do reveal.

Which contained what seemed like some pretty damning revelations about Biden's fitness to serve. And it seems like there hasn't been much rebuttal.

Every one of your posts so far in the thread just looks like troll bait

We might have ended up in a better place if it had.

There's some irony here?

I think that's what "I see what you did there" indicates.

If the OP was intended to be droll, it done drolled right off the table.

have been the one promoted. So, you can say I am using the same "retire" idea, and also Harris is the younger person.

That is not what I "did here", but I think that is what they think they see that I did.

I just finally am allowed to voice the idea that we would be a nation better off with Harris in command.

And AOC was only running for a committee leadership position. This doesn't make sense in that context. Both Nancy and AOC have been re-elected and are serving in the House of Representatives. Sure Nancy has more seniority and all that, but statutorily, they hold the same position. It's like they're both members of the same organization (For example: the local Chamber of Commerce or the local UAW...anything that follows Robert's Rules of Order or delegates etc) and AOC says, "I'm gonna run for treasurer", but Nancy helped AOC's opponent secure the vote for treasurer. (Note: This stuff happens all the time and is not unusual)

Please explain, for those of us not so quick, what you did here.

I'm just no good at riddles.

had been the Speaker of the House. She no longer is. AOC recently tried for the leadership role on the House Oversight Committee, but didn't win.

is in 782 hours. I don't see the point of doing something like this.

If we should be so fortunate as to have an election and have the results honored.

Good to know.

But I don't think he should retire.

she would be the lamest of ducks, probably not even something she wants

Just kidding.

What an awful way to rub it in that she lost the election. Give her a consolation prize of being president for 30 days, only to have her then have to relinquish it in favour of TFG?

Bad, sport. Real bad.

Why are we continuing to fight this fight with kid gloves on?

Presidents of the US don’t “retire, “ they either win or lose an election and go on from there.
They can also die by either assassination or disease. Or, and here is where the insult to Biden really bites, they can be impeached or driven from office in recognition of crimes committed.

Just stop it, all of you who keep peddling this pipe dream. It’s not amusing, and never was.

a pipe dream to get rid of nuclear weapons.

It troubles me that we are so worried about a single person's feelings, that we wouldn't do what is right for the USA and the world; you know, the other 8 billion people.

We should be showing good Democratic wisdom and leadership. In my opinion, we do that by having Harris as president.

WTAF does getting rid of nuclear weapons have to do with your brilliant plan for Biden's retirement?

I get the, like, deep think cryptic pronunciamento gig. But it only goes so far.

If you want to be taken seriously, that is.

I get accused of that is when I speak about how we must rid the world of nuclear weapons.

My point is that, far from being pipe dreams, these are virtual necessities.

I mention it so that we see how it can be so wrong to blow something off by calling it a pipe dream.
It makes me very sad.

There's hardly anybody but you, I guess, who's in favor of that.

You are quite the iconoclast.

In addition, if you watched the entire debate, he didn’t do that badly. He recovered quite well and his opponent was his usual raving lunatic self. He was tired and he was recovering from Covid.

All of that aside, I can’t take this post very seriously. There would be absolutely nothing achieved imo by having Kamala be the president for the next month or so actually, it’s less than a month now I believe. Also, wouldn’t that mean there would be a vice president and who would that be?

There's a month left to go. What do you think would be different?

Biden has shown himself to be a master of Congressional relations and negotiation. He's hoarse and frail, but I'd still trust him on this one to play whatever few cards we have left.

That is all.

If the reports that Biden has been declining significantly are true, he should have resigned at least a year before the election and allowed Harris to fight the 2024 campaign as an incumbent. It might have made a difference. But that is water over the dam, and we need to be thinking what we can do differently in the future as a party.

Sadly, I agree with others here who do not see Harris as our future leader because I think she is super intelligent and a decent human being. Her loss, though, may very well end her political career.

Joe is the best President of my lifetime

... retire soon, but not resign. There is no need. He has the mental and physical health to serve his term, with the assistance of a staff, cabinet, advisors, VP, and family. It might have been interesting if Biden had resigned a couple years ago...

While I always though he shouldn't have run (because more than once during the '20 campaign he said he probably wouldnt), thats in the past. And he's not been "absentee". Leave him alone

have 5 weeks until he leaves office, and you want to throw one of the best presidents under the bus.
Makes me think do you just want to claim a woman was president or is there some other reason? If we had
a primary it is doubtful Harris would have won, the country decided not to vote for her. Why on earth would you have the President resign so you can claim we had a woman president for 30 days.

I know Joe Biden, and I trust him. I do not trust Fox News and Vladimir Putin, or Elon Musk

Trump has a massive amount of crap like hats in stock with the number 47 on it.

If Vice President Harris were to become president even for five minutes, she - not Trump - will be the 47th president and his millions of dollars' worth of inventory will all have to be thrown away and replaced with new crap with the number 48 on it.

But one has to admit screwing with Trump is way more fun.

But his stepping down now would just look ridiculous.

Why would anyone want that when the administration is nearly over?

A loser of the Presidential election should not be President. It's bad enough that she got the nomination without a primary, she should not get the Presidency without defeating her opponent.

Delete your account.