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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome, but not all of what the rat fuckers cut re: healthcare
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/politics/government-funding-bill-congress-explainer/index.htmlZero mention of the early detection funding for breast & cervical cancers.
There are LOTS of things they omitted 8n order to screw taxpayers & enrich themselves.
Still hunting for what happened to the rest of the 190 million cut from the health package. The way I am reading this, 12.6 million was approved when saved by Dem Senate. Where us the rest of the $190 million?
applegrove
(123,576 posts)it imply the original amount was passed by the Senate. I hope it is not bogus/AI.
https://lemmy.ml/post/23831491
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And to clarify, this does not need to go back to the house because the house had already technically passed a bill that approved the funding. As I understand it, it was just later intended to be merge into the main CR bill.
After it was cut from the CR, the Dem senators were then able to save the funding by just approving an earlier standalone bill which had already passed the house
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)I knew it!!!!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/government-shutdown-live-updates-rcna184880
Scroll waaaaaay down page to get fo this little nugget:
Senate passes funding for pediatric cancer after it was stripped out of original CR
Sen. Tim Kaine, D-VA, obtained unanimous consent via voice vote for funding for the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0 on the floor tonight.
The legislation reauthorizes funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for pediatric cancer after it was stripped out of the original bipartisan deal on Wednesday. The bill reauthorizes through FY2028 a pediatric disease research initiative within NIH and requires the NIH to coordinate pediatric research activities to avoid duplicative efforts.
The legislation passed the House in March and has been sitting in the Senate since.
Democrats in the House and Senate have criticized Republicans over the last few days for taking out key provisions from the bipartisan deal, most notably pediatric cancer funding. However, the legislation that passed the Senate tonight is not exactly the same as the language in the original deal and is ultimately less money overall, per Kaine.
Getting bleary eyed hunting for the info I know I saw regarding early breast & cervical cancer funding. Yet another repuke attack on women.
Ty for sharing link to your article. I will reread it.
applegrove
(123,576 posts)and Musk.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)The following are the five pediatric cancer measures that Republicans excluded in the new continuing resolution bill:
A program that rewards researchers for approvals of pediatric cancer drugs with valuable vouchers that require faster Food and Drug Administration reviews of another drug application of any kind. The priority review voucher program was to be extended until 2029.
A program that would allow kids with cancer who are covered by Medicaid and the Childrens health insurance program known as CHIP to receive out-of-state treatment.
New authority for the FDA to fine companies when they dont complete required pediatric studies. The FDA already has this authority for adult studies.
New FDA authority to require that companies study pediatric drugs in combination with other treatments for the same disease when those treatments are owned by the same company or are available as generics.
Funding for pediatric cancer research at the National Institutes of Health.
The NBC excerpt I posted mentions only a teeny sliver of this critical work!
On edit: this was House bill only, measures they cut, not what Senate passed. Maybe that's why it was a stand alone measure, to reduce comparisons.
applegrove
(123,576 posts)SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)And you know for the women's healthcare part of it, it will not be the wealthy women who suffer, it will be low income marginalized women who cannot afford to fly off to a country with REAL healthcare.
As with nearly everything these days, what is NOT being said thst matters most.
applegrove
(123,576 posts)Senate funds kids cancer research after its nixed from CR
AL WEAVER
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/5049988-house-republicans-government-shutdown/amp/
The Senate late on Friday night unanimously passed $190 million in funding for pediatric cancer research after it was stripped from the initial stopgap spending package.
As Senate leaders were trying to strike a time agreement for the continuing resolution, the upper chamber separately passed the legislation the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0 via voice vote.
Democrats were angry that it had been removed from the bipartisan package initially. It passed the House in March.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)From NBC article.
I sure hope the full $190 mill passed to help kids!
Ty so much!
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)who either don't value the women in their lives or don't see the threat becuase they are in the bubble.
Notice Trump and Elon don't have women in their lives. I mean for more than sex, or the manditory appearance for publicity purposes. They don't love women, and women don't love them back.
If you aren't a White male CIS billionare you are screwed under Trump. Wake up and join the resistance.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)I do not believe either of them are capable of loving anyone. Jmo.
But for non wealthy magat males it appears that women are like the maid service, cooks, sex objects. & incubators.
100% objectified.
I really wish the media would do its job.
Applegrove found article stating Senate passed $190 mill for kuds cancer research, but NBC article excerpf I posted quotes Sen Kaine ststing thstwhat passed Senate was much narrower in scope & fsr less money.
What is nit being said here is what is important.
Tickle
(3,150 posts)female chief of staff, Susie wiles , Tulsi as national intelligence.. there's more. He seems to value some women
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)and not the same power in the media. They'll let the cervical cancer and breast cancer stand. It's the lives of children that is embarrassing the usually shameless Republicans
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)And the recent "election" results further embolden magat attacks on women.
Pls chk the other updates I've posted to this thread.
From what I've found, the healthcare package in the orig bill was $190 million. What I found says Senate passed 12.6 mill for PART of the kids cancer research.
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)what they could. Yes I've seen your other updates.
We need people like you getting us through the next four years.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)I'm just a pissed off elder who always, without fail, looks for what we are not being told. That is always what is important.
I've been searching for hours to find out exactly how much of the $190 mill for kuds cancer research AND whether the esrly detection part of package for breast & cervical cancer was included.
Sen. Kaine's statement was all I've found so far refuting the hoopla bs the media is spewing & his comment is WAAAAAAAYdown the page. I expect it will be deleted by morning.
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)I was sure the Senate couldn't do it on their own
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)But many will suffer and likely die because of repugs refusal to use OUR tax money on US.
It's what is NOT being said thst is most important here.
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)We need to step up and say it.
We are a platform for ideas and thought. It needs to be develpoed and then proposde to people who can implememnt it. This is no longer entertainemant. We are the seeds of resistance as long as we can last.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)Did you read the excerpts I posted in this thread, both from STAT News outlining the 5 areas of kids cancer research in orig House Bill, then what Sen. Kaine said about what passed?
This is OUR FUCKING TAX MONEY tbey are playing with and WE HAVE A RIGHT to know where they are spending it!
Just for full disclosure, none of this is a personal issue for me. But my interest is in stopping the rat fuckers cold. This is about decency!
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)We need people like you in the resistance.
I'm aware of your threads but at 3AM and with other crises in my life I won't do them justcie.
Wish I had my sh*t together to focus on repairing democracy but since you apparenlty do, I send you my apppreciation an support. That is what will save us.
Following you going forward, and a thanks in advance
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)I hope others pick up the gauntlet too because my blood pressure will prob blow a gasket. Lol
MadameButterfly
(1,911 posts)and we act as if this is poLiitics as usual'
Look into to holtisitfic shasolutions because the political solutions seems limited
Avyone angaged who can sLove thise? Glo...for how to handle the Trump era. Stand back and wait for them to come to us. The Trump and his MAGA cult don't have the votes to succeed on their own. They cannot unify their own party.
They can't raise the debt ceiling without the Dems. Trump can't get his tax bill through the House and Senate without Dems. How doses SALTeduction grt invlufrfans. He can't pass a budget and will have trouble funding his deportation plan.
What we need is patience and unity. Don't forget, his team is incompetent and too angry to act rationally.Othre present =pam
applegrove
(123,576 posts)detail but it is still vague.
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)Did you see above post I just made? It is definitely less money & the way I'm reading it, much narrower in scope -- just on the kuds csncer part.
Zero mention of early breast & cervical cancer money.
applegrove
(123,576 posts)SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)This is what I'd seen before. Zero mention of it now.
Additionally, the package would have reauthorized the National Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program (NBCCEDP) through 2028 based on language from the bipartisan SCREENS for Cancer Act. The NBCCEDP provides free and low-cost critical breast and cervical cancer screenings, follow-up, diagnosis and treatment referral services to people who need them the most. Early detection of breast and cervical cancers through screening is key to improving survival rates and reducing mortality by finding cancer at an early stage when treatment is more effective and less expensive.
Thousands of ACS CAN volunteers from across the country and political spectrum have devoted countless hours to advocating for these lifesaving policies and are no doubt disappointed with the lack of action. Cancer patients and their families count on Congress to prioritize critical policies that reduce barriers to the health care they need.
We call on the 119th Congress to immediately revisit these important pieces of legislation when they convene in January, as well as provide the highest possible funding for cancer research and prevention through the National Institutes of Health, National Cancer Institute and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Still on it, but I'm sure repugs cut it. Something happened to cause the amount to decrease from $190 million to $12.6 millions!
Note: paraphrased subject because all I keep getting is option to translate.
On edit: this was prior to whatever Senate passed. Posted only to show the scope of the original, which has shrunk from $190 mill to $12.6 mill!
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)They are hiding details that tell the REAL story.
Meowmee
(6,059 posts)That comes from insurers not the gov so how can they cut that unless its free screening for people without hc etc. I thought 300 m was cut for cancer research for children meanwhile eloon gets trillionaire welfare for spacex ect. after enriching himself further off the election.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)Npr article cites this:
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/20/nx-s1-5235273/government-shutdown-disaster-aid-trump-debt-ceiling
However, one of the policies stripped from the original deal was still approved on Friday. The Senate unanimously approved the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act, a bill that had already passed the House and will provide more than $12 million a year in funding for pediatric cancer research for five years.
$12 mil times 5 yrs = $60 mil. Way less than half of the $190 mill reportedly cut to please the duo of dunces.
Did you read entire thread here? Nbc article, waaaaassy down the page quotes Sen. Ksine as saying what Senate passed for kids cancer research was much narrower & a lot less money than what was orig cut.
STATnews post here outlines all 5 areas of kid cancer research the initial paltry sum of $190 was going to fund.
As always, what is not being shared by media is what is truly important.
I've been searching for hours & the only sliver of truth I've found is Sen. Kaine's comment, which I expect will be wiped from the NBC web site by morning.
Not sure about the early breast & cervical cancer portion. Not a whisper about this from msm. Shocking, I know.
Again, it's what they are not talking about thst is really important. Compare what I osted from STATnews to what they say they're funding. Tiny sliver.
Meowmee
(6,059 posts)Either way its terrible if theyre cutting funding for people who dont have healthcare and access, etc. But I dont understand how they could cut that for people that have health insurance that covers it. Its not their decision to make.
Ill have to see if I can find the post that I read before because I thought I read something here today earlier or yesterday that said it was 300 million being cut by elunatic for childrens cancer research. I just woke up and maybe I am miss remembering that. Or maybe I saw it on TV because I had it on briefly earlier.
They always do that. They dont really talk about whats going on so we cant make a fuss about it. And they make it so confusing to figure out.
Something that a lot of people dont realize is that almost all research in medicine and many other areas is not done by pharmaceutical companies, etc.. Its funded by the government to small groups that have the capability and the knowledge to do it. And then, if something works, the big Pharma and other companies race buy it to make money etc.
SheltieLover
(60,134 posts)Law against deep fake revenge porn, provision regulating investment in Chibese tech cos, etx, etc, etc.
This is HARDLY a "win" for the American taxpayer. With all the media hoopla, you'd think something REALLY BENEFICIAL had been accomomplished.
To me, this is like a student who obtains an extension to the last second before grades are due to turn in a very lengthy, complex research project.
I'm sick of this shit tbh. How could Dems know what all was in the bill the Senate voted on? Obviously, rethugs cannot be trusted, especially since reniging on original Bill proposal to please the dunce duo.
Meowmee
(6,059 posts)Yes not sure why revenge porn is part of a budget passing? I think they are gonna just say everything they do is great because theyre normalizing everything which is terrible. I guess were gonna find out in time what the results will be and what was cut. 😣