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SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 01:58 AM 20 hrs ago

Some, but not all of what the rat fuckers cut re: healthcare

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/politics/government-funding-bill-congress-explainer/index.html

Zero mention of the early detection funding for breast & cervical cancers.

There are LOTS of things they omitted 8n order to screw taxpayers & enrich themselves.

Still hunting for what happened to the rest of the 190 million cut from the health package. The way I am reading this, 12.6 million was approved when saved by Dem Senate. Where us the rest of the $190 million?

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Some, but not all of what the rat fuckers cut re: healthcare (Original Post) SheltieLover 20 hrs ago OP
Here is a comment on that link I gave you. Doesn't applegrove 20 hrs ago #1
Ty, but here is NBC link stating some, but not all the peds cancer research funding passed in senate SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #3
Damn MAGA. Women and children are expendable to Trump applegrove 19 hrs ago #4
From STATnews. 5Peds Cancer messures cut from house bill SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #10
Not easy to find anything on it. applegrove 19 hrs ago #13
Not when our only sources of info are not sharing pertinent facts SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #16
Here: applegrove 18 hrs ago #18
But Sen Kaine said it was much narrower in scope & much less money SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #20
And expendable to Maga MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #19
Absolutely! SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #22
He's nominated the first Tickle 16 hrs ago #32
Yeah, women's lives not as heartrending as childrens' MadameButterfly 19 hrs ago #11
Right SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #14
Agreed that it isn't enough. They found a way to restore MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #15
Awwww. Thx SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #25
Thanks for explaining that MadameButterfly 19 hrs ago #9
They no doubt did the best they could SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #17
It's what is NOT being said thst is most important here. MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #21
Absolutely! THANK YOU! SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #23
Thank you for what you are doing and please continue MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #24
Tyvm SheltieLover 18 hrs ago #26
So many peopole's'lives/livehihoods at stake MadameButterfly 17 hrs ago #27
Tonights Heather Cox Richardson goes into a bit more applegrove 19 hrs ago #2
Msm won't tell the damned truth! SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #5
It seems pretty vague everywhere. Thanks. applegrove 19 hrs ago #6
Congress misses opportunity [REFUSES!] to fund cancer research SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #7
Yes it is. SheltieLover 19 hrs ago #8
Does that mean no coverage for mammograms etc? Meowmee 19 hrs ago #12
That's what I'm trying to find out SheltieLover 17 hrs ago #28
I'll have to read it later. I'm really tired. Meowmee 17 hrs ago #29
Take a look on CNN for all that was CUT from the bill! SheltieLover 17 hrs ago #30
I will Meowmee 16 hrs ago #31

applegrove

(123,576 posts)
1. Here is a comment on that link I gave you. Doesn't
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:08 AM
20 hrs ago

it imply the original amount was passed by the Senate. I hope it is not bogus/AI.

https://lemmy.ml/post/23831491


usernamesAreTricky
OP
And to clarify, this does not need to go back to the house because the house had already technically passed a bill that approved the funding. As I understand it, it was just later intended to be merge into the main CR bill.

After it was cut from the CR, the Dem senators were then able to save the funding by just approving an earlier standalone bill which had already passed the house

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
3. Ty, but here is NBC link stating some, but not all the peds cancer research funding passed in senate
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:33 AM
19 hrs ago

I knew it!!!!!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/government-shutdown-live-updates-rcna184880

Scroll waaaaaay down page to get fo this little nugget:


Senate passes funding for pediatric cancer after it was stripped out of original CR


Sen. Tim Kaine, D-VA, obtained unanimous consent via voice vote for funding for the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0 on the floor tonight.

The legislation reauthorizes funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH) for pediatric cancer after it was stripped out of the original bipartisan deal on Wednesday. The bill reauthorizes through FY2028 a pediatric disease research initiative within NIH and requires the NIH to coordinate pediatric research activities to avoid duplicative efforts.

The legislation passed the House in March and has been sitting in the Senate since.

Democrats in the House and Senate have criticized Republicans over the last few days for taking out key provisions from the bipartisan deal, most notably pediatric cancer funding. However, the legislation that passed the Senate tonight is not exactly the same as the language in the original deal and is ultimately less money overall, per Kaine.

Getting bleary eyed hunting for the info I know I saw regarding early breast & cervical cancer funding. Yet another repuke attack on women.

Ty for sharing link to your article. I will reread it.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
10. From STATnews. 5Peds Cancer messures cut from house bill
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:02 AM
19 hrs ago
https://www.statnews.com/2024/12/20/pediatric-cancer-research-cut-from-gop-spending-bill-backlash-swift/

The following are the five pediatric cancer measures that Republicans excluded in the new continuing resolution bill:

A program that rewards researchers for approvals of pediatric cancer drugs with valuable vouchers that require faster Food and Drug Administration reviews of another drug application of any kind. The priority review voucher program was to be extended until 2029.

A program that would allow kids with cancer who are covered by Medicaid and the Children’s health insurance program known as CHIP to receive out-of-state treatment.

New authority for the FDA to fine companies when they don’t complete required pediatric studies. The FDA already has this authority for adult studies.
New FDA authority to require that companies study pediatric drugs in combination with other treatments for the same disease when those treatments are owned by the same company or are available as generics.

Funding for pediatric cancer research at the National Institutes of Health.

The NBC excerpt I posted mentions only a teeny sliver of this critical work!



On edit: this was House bill only, measures they cut, not what Senate passed. Maybe that's why it was a stand alone measure, to reduce comparisons.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
16. Not when our only sources of info are not sharing pertinent facts
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:14 AM
18 hrs ago


And you know for the women's healthcare part of it, it will not be the wealthy women who suffer, it will be low income marginalized women who cannot afford to fly off to a country with REAL healthcare.

As with nearly everything these days, what is NOT being said thst matters most.

applegrove

(123,576 posts)
18. Here:
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:17 AM
18 hrs ago

Senate funds kids cancer research after it’s nixed from CR

AL WEAVER

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/house/5049988-house-republicans-government-shutdown/amp/

The Senate late on Friday night unanimously passed $190 million in funding for pediatric cancer research after it was stripped from the initial stopgap spending package.

As Senate leaders were trying to strike a time agreement for the continuing resolution, the upper chamber separately passed the legislation — the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act 2.0 — via voice vote.

Democrats were angry that it had been removed from the bipartisan package initially. It passed the House in March.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
20. But Sen Kaine said it was much narrower in scope & much less money
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:20 AM
18 hrs ago

From NBC article.

I sure hope the full $190 mill passed to help kids!

Ty so much!

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
19. And expendable to Maga
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:18 AM
18 hrs ago

who either don't value the women in their lives or don't see the threat becuase they are in the bubble.

Notice Trump and Elon don't have women in their lives. I mean for more than sex, or the manditory appearance for publicity purposes. They don't love women, and women don't love them back.

If you aren't a White male CIS billionare you are screwed under Trump. Wake up and join the resistance.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
22. Absolutely!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:27 AM
18 hrs ago

I do not believe either of them are capable of loving anyone. Jmo.

But for non wealthy magat males it appears that women are like the maid service, cooks, sex objects. & incubators.

100% objectified.

I really wish the media would do its job.

Applegrove found article stating Senate passed $190 mill for kuds cancer research, but NBC article excerpf I posted quotes Sen Kaine ststing thstwhat passed Senate was much narrower in scope & fsr less money.

What is nit being said here is what is important.

Tickle

(3,150 posts)
32. He's nominated the first
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:19 AM
16 hrs ago

female chief of staff, Susie wiles , Tulsi as national intelligence.. there's more. He seems to value some women

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
11. Yeah, women's lives not as heartrending as childrens'
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:03 AM
19 hrs ago

and not the same power in the media. They'll let the cervical cancer and breast cancer stand. It's the lives of children that is embarrassing the usually shameless Republicans

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
14. Right
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:09 AM
18 hrs ago

And the recent "election" results further embolden magat attacks on women.

Pls chk the other updates I've posted to this thread.

From what I've found, the healthcare package in the orig bill was $190 million. What I found says Senate passed 12.6 mill for PART of the kids cancer research.

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
15. Agreed that it isn't enough. They found a way to restore
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:12 AM
18 hrs ago

what they could. Yes I've seen your other updates.

We need people like you getting us through the next four years.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
25. Awwww. Thx
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:50 AM
18 hrs ago

I'm just a pissed off elder who always, without fail, looks for what we are not being told. That is always what is important.

I've been searching for hours to find out exactly how much of the $190 mill for kuds cancer research AND whether the esrly detection part of package for breast & cervical cancer was included.

Sen. Kaine's statement was all I've found so far refuting the hoopla bs the media is spewing & his comment is WAAAAAAAYdown the page. I expect it will be deleted by morning.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
17. They no doubt did the best they could
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:17 AM
18 hrs ago

But many will suffer and likely die because of repugs refusal to use OUR tax money on US.



It's what is NOT being said thst is most important here.

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
21. It's what is NOT being said thst is most important here.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:22 AM
18 hrs ago

We need to step up and say it.
We are a platform for ideas and thought. It needs to be develpoed and then proposde to people who can implememnt it. This is no longer entertainemant. We are the seeds of resistance as long as we can last.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
23. Absolutely! THANK YOU!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:35 AM
18 hrs ago

Did you read the excerpts I posted in this thread, both from STAT News outlining the 5 areas of kids cancer research in orig House Bill, then what Sen. Kaine said about what passed?

This is OUR FUCKING TAX MONEY tbey are playing with and WE HAVE A RIGHT to know where they are spending it!



Just for full disclosure, none of this is a personal issue for me. But my interest is in stopping the rat fuckers cold. This is about decency!

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
24. Thank you for what you are doing and please continue
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:46 AM
18 hrs ago

We need people like you in the resistance.
I'm aware of your threads but at 3AM and with other crises in my life I won't do them justcie.
Wish I had my sh*t together to focus on repairing democracy but since you apparenlty do, I send you my apppreciation an support. That is what will save us.
Following you going forward, and a thanks in advance

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
26. Tyvm
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:52 AM
18 hrs ago

I hope others pick up the gauntlet too because my blood pressure will prob blow a gasket. Lol

MadameButterfly

(1,911 posts)
27. So many peopole's'lives/livehihoods at stake
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:21 AM
17 hrs ago

and we act as if this is poLiitics as usual'

Look into to holtisitfic shasolutions because the political solutions seems limited
Avyone angaged who can sLove thise? Glo...for how to handle the Trump era. Stand back and wait for them to come to us. The Trump and his MAGA cult don't have the votes to succeed on their own. They cannot unify their own party.

They can't raise the debt ceiling without the Dems. Trump can't get his tax bill through the House and Senate without Dems. How doses SALTeduction grt invlufrfans. He can't pass a budget and will have trouble funding his deportation plan.

What we need is patience and unity. Don't forget, his team is incompetent and too angry to act rationally.Othre present =pam

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
5. Msm won't tell the damned truth!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:40 AM
19 hrs ago


Did you see above post I just made? It is definitely less money & the way I'm reading it, much narrower in scope -- just on the kuds csncer part.

Zero mention of early breast & cervical cancer money.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
7. Congress misses opportunity [REFUSES!] to fund cancer research
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 02:49 AM
19 hrs ago
https://www.fightcancer.org/releases/congress-misses-critical-opportunity-prioritize-cancer-prevention-and-access-care

This is what I'd seen before. Zero mention of it now.

“Additionally, the package would have reauthorized the National Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program (NBCCEDP) through 2028 based on language from the bipartisan SCREENS for Cancer Act. The NBCCEDP provides free and low-cost critical breast and cervical cancer screenings, follow-up, diagnosis and treatment referral services to people who need them the most. Early detection of breast and cervical cancers through screening is key to improving survival rates and reducing mortality by finding cancer at an early stage when treatment is more effective and less expensive.

“Thousands of ACS CAN volunteers from across the country and political spectrum have devoted countless hours to advocating for these lifesaving policies and are no doubt disappointed with the lack of action. Cancer patients and their families count on Congress to prioritize critical policies that reduce barriers to the health care they need.

“We call on the 119th Congress to immediately revisit these important pieces of legislation when they convene in January, as well as provide the highest possible funding for cancer research and prevention through the National Institutes of Health, National Cancer Institute and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

Still on it, but I'm sure repugs cut it. Something happened to cause the amount to decrease from $190 million to $12.6 millions!

Note: paraphrased subject because all I keep getting is option to translate.



On edit: this was prior to whatever Senate passed. Posted only to show the scope of the original, which has shrunk from $190 mill to $12.6 mill!

Meowmee

(6,059 posts)
12. Does that mean no coverage for mammograms etc?
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 03:05 AM
19 hrs ago

That comes from insurers not the gov so how can they cut that unless it’s free screening for people without hc etc. I thought 300 m was cut for cancer research for children…meanwhile eloon gets trillionaire welfare for spacex ect. after enriching himself further off the election.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
28. That's what I'm trying to find out
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 04:56 AM
17 hrs ago

Npr article cites this:

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/20/nx-s1-5235273/government-shutdown-disaster-aid-trump-debt-ceiling

However, one of the policies stripped from the original deal was still approved on Friday. The Senate unanimously approved the Gabriella Miller Kids First Research Act, a bill that had already passed the House and will provide more than $12 million a year in funding for pediatric cancer research for five years.


$12 mil times 5 yrs = $60 mil. Way less than half of the $190 mill reportedly cut to please the duo of dunces.

Did you read entire thread here? Nbc article, waaaaassy down the page quotes Sen. Ksine as saying what Senate passed for kids cancer research was much narrower & a lot less money than what was orig cut.

STATnews post here outlines all 5 areas of kid cancer research the initial paltry sum of $190 was going to fund.

As always, what is not being shared by media is what is truly important.

I've been searching for hours & the only sliver of truth I've found is Sen. Kaine's comment, which I expect will be wiped from the NBC web site by morning.

Not sure about the early breast & cervical cancer portion. Not a whisper about this from msm. Shocking, I know.

Again, it's what they are not talking about thst is really important. Compare what I osted from STATnews to what they say they're funding. Tiny sliver.

Meowmee

(6,059 posts)
29. I'll have to read it later. I'm really tired.
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:01 AM
17 hrs ago

Either way it’s terrible if they’re cutting funding for people who don’t have healthcare and access, etc. But I don’t understand how they could cut that for people that have health insurance that covers it. It’s not their decision to make.

I’ll have to see if I can find the post that I read before because I thought I read something here today earlier or yesterday that said it was 300 million being cut by elunatic for children’s cancer research. I just woke up and maybe I am miss remembering that. Or maybe I saw it on TV because I had it on briefly earlier.

They always do that. They don’t really talk about what’s going on so we can’t make a fuss about it. And they make it so confusing to figure out.

Something that a lot of people don’t realize is that almost all research in medicine and many other areas is not done by pharmaceutical companies, etc.. It’s funded by the government to small groups that have the capability and the knowledge to do it. And then, if something works, the big Pharma and other companies race buy it to make money etc.

SheltieLover

(60,134 posts)
30. Take a look on CNN for all that was CUT from the bill!
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:06 AM
17 hrs ago

Law against deep fake revenge porn, provision regulating investment in Chibese tech cos, etx, etc, etc.

This is HARDLY a "win" for the American taxpayer. With all the media hoopla, you'd think something REALLY BENEFICIAL had been accomomplished.

To me, this is like a student who obtains an extension to the last second before grades are due to turn in a very lengthy, complex research project.

I'm sick of this shit tbh. How could Dems know what all was in the bill the Senate voted on? Obviously, rethugs cannot be trusted, especially since reniging on original Bill proposal to please the dunce duo.

Meowmee

(6,059 posts)
31. I will
Sat Dec 21, 2024, 05:11 AM
16 hrs ago

Yes not sure why revenge porn is part of a budget passing? I think they are gonna just say everything they do is great because they’re normalizing everything which is terrible. I guess we’re gonna find out in time what the results will be and what was cut. 😣

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