Will die, lose everything they worked for, their homes, families and friends. This is going to hurt all of us. Badly.

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I have no sympathy for those who voted for him. You reap what you sow. Of course I feel bad for those who did the right thing, but you can’t undo the election.

Dems will be blamed no matter what. Therefore we should do what we can.

We do it their way, and they blame us when it fails.

it's your local channels, too. A few days ago someone posted a montage of Scripps-Howard news hosts across the country & they all parroted the same exact right-leaning phrases.

Republicans wreck everything; people "wise up" and vote Dems into office; Dems start fixing things; people get semi-comfortable; people get stupid; Republicans use fear and wild promises to get back in; cycle starts again.

One day the cycle will break, one way or the other. Will I live long enough to see it? My father laughed in my face with Reagan beat Carter, then spent four years bellowing like a bloodhound about how the Jellybean Naptime Cowboy and the GOP were ruining the country, then promptly voted straight Republican ticket again. THAT cycle continued until he assumed room temperature.

And affording my medicines.

I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat.

You gonna (metaphorically) look me in the eye, and say that's ok? And not try to fight against such things through the Democratic Party?

do for you?

2 lifelong liberal Democrats hereh elderly, 1 disabled spine patient, 1 vietnam era vet. We are paying very High rent to live in a city where some spine care is available, entirely dependent on SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Thanks to specialist physical therapy, I am now able to walk, slowly and carefully, but I won’t survive living on the streets, and nursing home/ assisted living is definitely not an option. If it comes to that, I think I will cheerfully leave the planet.

care, gov't funds you paid into, and your own effort!

Take that away...
😔

I hope we all somehow make it through!

See my post #51

EXACTLY my thoughts!

I’m one of the Americans who faithfully voted and DIDN’T vote for the “dynamic death duo” Musk/Trump.

Is there some corner of America where I can spend the next 4 years (which could be my last years on earth since I’m nearly 71) in relative financial and physical safety?

I hate insensitive people/commenters who talk very subjectively with zero compassion for their fellow Americans using phrases like “Americans deserve what they get. They need to suffer and learn.” It tells me these commenters are either not Americans at all, or are so financially well positioned that they can weather the next four years and keep motoring on. Or they’re in denial.

totally if they seriously go after the gov't entitlements.

My fam is actually pretty long lived on both sides, and I'd probably like to be like them

Good luck to all of us!

Funny and sad all at once. What a disaster he was.

Their children suffer from polio or die of cancer because they can’t get treatment. Or the water system is no longer regulated and toxic waste seeps into their drinking water and they get sick with septic poisoning, No longer any safety regulations and they get hurt on the job and oh well you’re on your own now. No company medical care for you. The stuff that these fools are going to suffer especially in unregulated red states will be devasting to his supporters.

they are the ones to cry look at me. Look how much I suffer because of my choices, ... bootstraps, illegals, ..., round and round goes the merry-go-round.
What do we call it? Willfully ignorance? Hatred? Cognitive dissonance? Does it even matter, it's not like they will miraculously see the light.

These have been my talking points on this site since the Nov. 7.

However, I must admit that you lay the argument out better than I did.

However, elections have consequences.

It's difficult to see how we can win the fight when they control all four corners of government. The House, the Senate, the Presidency and the Supreme Court.

We have to win back one of those pillars in two years. But strap in for a very bumpy ride until then.

From the OP:

You say you're going to need democrats help.
What will you do if they don't succeed?
Blame them and vote Republican next time?
That's what America did, even after we helped them, Unions, Arab-Americans, Women, everyone.
They all shit on us electorally so WTF do think the Dems can do for you right the fuck now anyway?
Get real.

...but I think it's plausible. What happens if the bird flu makes the full jump to humans and becomes easily transmissible? Things are already looking scary in farm country with cases which appear to be increasing. And you know that if we get a bird flu pandemic, Trump and his cronies will be at least as incompetent as they were during Covid. I just can't wait for Trump's whiny press conferences, where he complains about his ratings and the "fake news" while half the country is dying. Can you?

So while it's easy to feel schadenfreude for the idiots in farm country, Dearborn, the Teamsters, etc. who voted for Trump, his malignant regime is likely to cause harm to everyone.

See this link (DU thread re: bird flu).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219843728#post9

The problem is not what Democrats are doing, or failing to do. It is what Democrats are failing to communicate.

Smugly sitting back and watching the disaster happen won't help win elections in 2026 & 2028, assuming our country even has elections anymore. Democrats need to fight and be seen fighting for the common man and woman in America.

If Democrats cannot improve the way they communicate, their actions will matter little.

Unions- We helped them, they shit on us.

Arab-Americans, they literally thought Trump would be better for Gaza. They are already complaining.

What the fuck else are we supposed to do for these people?
Ingrateful idiot bastards that need to find out after they fucked around.

..and many are desperately on the edge already. Or worse. Dems have to do all they can to mitigate for them.

Is that doing their jobs?

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And now not only are they giving that dumb fuck a second chance, he's got his inner asshole and middle finger out for the rest of sane America. And he put anit-vaxxers in charge of public health! That's like giving the alcoholic the keys to the liquor cabinet and your car and telling them where the nearest cliff is! What the actual fuck, America?

I honestly don't know what else it will take to get through their thick skulls!

They keep voting for goddamned MAGAts and then we have to bail their, asses out. THEY KNOW THEYLL GET BAILED OUT EVERY TIME.

We need to stop doing it and inform them that they voted for the shit that befalls them at the hands of MAGAts.

Fucking assholes.

I still can't get over how Democrats fought tooth and nail to help Americans from 2020 through 2024 and none of it was appreciated or even acknowledged.

trump voters attacked us and themselves with their votes, and it's time for them to live with the consequences.

I'm sorry to everyone who did the right thing and will be harmed.

No thanks! I don’t want to work til I’m 90 because we had to stick it to Trump voters. If you can think of an example that overwhelmingly screws only Trump voters, however, I’m on board.

do about it?
I keep asking this question but no one seems to want to answer it.

And call enormous attention to the vote so it would be ruinous to the Republicans.

A threat of losing power - as in, getting voted out. It may not work, but we can hope voters will not forget for the next election. There's a reason they pretend they AREN'T for getting rid of Social Security. If anyone has a better idea, I'm all ears. By the way it has worked. They cave whenever there's a debt ceiling negotiation. They passed the Veteran's Health bill 86-11 after John Stewart spoke to Congress. Just two days ago the Senate passed the extension of Social Security benefits 76-20 so it does happen. There's probably more if my memory didn't suck.

sure.

Enuf votes in the Senate to cut our Social Security. At least if they have to pass the normal threshold of 60 votes.

When I’m not panicking about everything, that’s what I keep telling myself.

including lifting the debt ceiling, but filibuster nothing. Let them see what Republican governance is. Make it apparent that the GOP is in charge and deserves all the blame.

Faux News and Donnie's Twitter account will tell the gullible masses how much their lives have improved and that will be their truth..

These are Trumpers we're talking about...

Yeah, that’ll show those stupid wolves!

Democrats can and most likely will vote against all of the stuff the Republicans will pull, but they are going to be outnumbered and they will mostly lose to the lockstep Republicans. Somehow, many people seem to not believe this.

There is no "both sides cavalry" coming to rescue us from Trump if he pushes too far. It will be up to the Republicans in the House and Senate to help stop him, but they are being threatened themselves and they are sniveling cowards.

All we really can do is to make sure that the American people know who is responsible for the upcoming mess that Trump will create.

We are out of words. Americans will need to now learn from experience.

Or that it is ALWAYS a DEM administration that comes in & fixes as much of the damage as possible.
Carter, Obama, Biden all patched us up as much as the Senate & House would allow. But the easily conned, voting for their hurt 'feelings' always forget and then vote for the crooks who lie to, then screw them

I just don't have enough faith in their brain function to see them waking up.

They can ALWAYS find others to blame and avoid having to change. MAGAs have similar behavior patterns. I hold no hope many will ever change and take responsibility for their votes.

yet. They have always sit on their big fat hemorrhoidal asses and point their shit stained fingers.

They have to experience first hand. Everything that is bad is always someone else. I agree let the republicans do what they want if the democrats do anything at all for their bills. The answer will be the democrats interfering caused it to fail. They wanted it to fail. They were mad at Biden because he couldn't fix Trump's and Covid 19 mess fast enough.