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This problem isn't new and it's going to get much worse.
Mario Nawfal
@MarioNawfal
"THE U.S. ENGINEERING SHORTAGE IS A TICKING TIME BOMB By 2030, nearly 1 in 3 engineering roles could go unfilled, threatening industries and critical government projects alike. The talent gap isnt just about numbersits about skills, diversity, and the lack of coordinated action. Demand for engineers with next-gen skills is soaring, yet outdated training pipelines and minimal reskilling efforts arent keeping up. Source: BCG"
10:05 PM · Dec 25, 2024
Link to tweet
https://recruitingdaily.com/why-the-u-s-has-a-stem-shortage-and-how-we-fix-it-part-1/
Graphics from the article:
https://www.emerson.com/en-us/news/corporate/2018-stem-survey
August 21, 2018
"While the survey found students today are twice as likely to study STEM fields compared to their parents, the number of roles requiring STEM expertise is growing at a rate that exceeds current workforce capacity. In manufacturing alone, the National Association of Manufacturing and Deloitte predict the U.S. will need to fill about 3.5 million jobs by 2025; yet as many as 2 million of those jobs may go unfilled, due to difficulty finding people with the skills in demand. "
Additional sources:
https://www.bcg.com/publications/2023/addressing-the-engineering-talent-shortage
https://www.sae.org/news/2023/12/bcg
https://3hti.com/product-lifecycle-management/the-engineering-talent-gap-implications-for-us-manufacturing/
https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/new-look-immigrants-outsize-contribution-innovation-us
https://www.nber.org/papers/w30797
https://www.cato.org/research-briefs-economic-policy/contribution-high-skilled-immigrants-innovation-united-states
https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/how-high-skilled-immigration-creates-jobs-and-drives-innovation/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h-1b-visa-overhaul-what-do-the-new-rules-mean-for-employers-students/ar-AA1w2LQN
https://www.hrdive.com/news/final-rule-overhaul-h-1b-visa-eligibility-requirements-january-2025/736100/
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2024/12/17/dhs-strengthens-h-1b-program-allowing-us-employers-more-quickly-fill-critical-jobs
https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/stakeholder-messages/dhs-announces-h-1b-modernization-final-rule-to-improve-program-integrity-and-efficiency
https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-visa-overhaul-status-extension-student-employers-2002352
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dutch777
(3,611 posts)My wife works for a relatively small specialty software company and my son for Meta in various tech engineering roles. In both instances they are already sending hardware engineering and tech coding engineering work oversees. Initially it was because of the shortage of engineers, but now that they have a taste of the fact that even at inflated consulting rates, an engineer in either China or India costs 75% less than their American counterpart, the companies are liking it for the sake of the bottom line. In my wife's employer's case, they bought a firm in Egypt for a very specific capability add on for their software. With the company came their engineers and they are only 10% of the cost of their counterpart in America. My son has been out of college 6 years and is now realizing that while he pulls down a good salary, with AI able to do now do 95% of his job and cheap engineers abroad maybe able to fill in the last 5%, he better make it into management because his days as a high end individual contributer may not last very much longer. Not promising for America. And we can be sure Ding Dong Donnie and his his band of merry billionaires and lying sycophants won't see what this writing on the wall means. Nor will they have the policy and legislating know how to do anything meaningful about in a time period that prevents even more erosion to the American brand.
littlemissmartypants
(25,991 posts)Excellent real world examples and contribution to the discussion, dutch777.
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dutch777
(3,611 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(51,357 posts)RandomNumbers
(18,270 posts)and replaced us with a cheaper, indentured servant model. (not to mention nowadays, thinking they can do stuff with AI instead of people. LOL.)
They also have no concept of training the next generation. Particularly when the next generation might pack up and take their skills to another job.
So much easier and cheaper to put a visa-holding butt in that seat.
Meanwhile, IT unemployment rate hits 6%
https://www.jobs4all.us/Blog/ArticleDetails/?title=IT-Unemployment-Hits-6-Amid-Overall-U-SJobs-Growth&Bid=3467
Edit to add: my comment has NOTHING to do with DEI. Except that there is actually NO diversity in a software development group that is 95% people of Indian heritage, with one token white person. African-Americans need not apply.
littlemissmartypants
(25,991 posts)Who've mostly lost interest due to the rampant sexual harassment perpetrated in IT bro culture.
mopinko
(72,021 posts)very few women stay more than a few yrs. get their card and go out on their own, or just move on.