in the 1990s.

And it was passed by a Congress that was solidly under Democratic control. The Senate was 55-45 and House 260-175 in favor of Democrats back in 1990.

Yes, it was signed by George Bush Sr. But when you state that one fact and leave out the rest it gives the impression that this was a Republican initiative when in reality far for Democrats voted for this bill than did Republicans.

He wasn't particularly polarizing, and did a better than his son and Trump did (and they never got that low in approval ratings ).

Is what plunged his approval rating. He was at 89% at one point. But the economic factors did him in.

Bush's elected office experience prior to becoming president was pretty slight - a two term congressman in a safe district. However, because he was born into a blue blood, connected family, he was able to get a slew of illustrious appointments that two term congressmen weren't typically considered for - and more than one person noticed this (Bob Dole resented it; Ann Richards made a crack about it at the '88 convention). So in my opinion, Bush - who got to start at the top - was less politically nimble than a man who had to battle his way to the top and it showed in '92.

Trump never got that low, even right after January 6th.

Some Stats:

• 76% of H-1B Visa holders are from India
• 70% of H-1B Visas are for computer-related occupations
• $85k = median salary H-1B in computer occupations
• $132k = median salary of American in computer science

So, H-1B visa holders get paid 65% of Americans in computer science. H-1B is predominantly a source of cheap labor for the tech industry. It has been for years. https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-look-h-1b-visa-program-industry-employer-and-state
https://www.david-ware.com/blog/2017/04/which-country-are-most-h-1b-visa-holders-from/#:~:text=Individuals%20with%20India%20as%20their,up%201.3%20percent%20of%20beneficiaries.

Right now, the unemployment rate among American tech workers--even experienced ones--is 6%. That's 50% higher than the overall national unemployment rate of 4%. NO employer should be using the H-1B program for tech workers as long as tech worker unemployment is above 4%.

Unless it's someone that they can prove had a unique skill and by that I mean someone like a researcher or something in that line.

Many were kicked out on lay offs and can't get rehired because of age. So tehy have dropped out of the labour force and not counted. Big tech likes younger programmers, lower pay for them also, and can't be bothered training older ones. Most programmers are continually upgrading their skills becasue the landscape changes.

That way companies won't come to depend on it as a source of cheap labour.

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Great story about the most evil company in the world. I’m sure they came up with the idea to hire more H-1B employees.
I saw first hand the damage consultants MBAs could do to screw up a large company.

I highly recommend this book for everyone.

will stop the program before he leaves.

H1Bs can't easily change jobs. By tying them to employers, they're held hostage. It should be abolished in favor of Visas for people graduating here, already here, or genius grants.

The idea that people can't fill jobs in the USA is absurd.

I had that in China, Korea, Thailand, and Malaysia when I lived and worked there. I couldn't just get up and leave and if I did, I lost my visa.

Work visa sponsorship is EXPENSIVE, time consuming, and full of regulations that would make your head spin. Even on the visa holder. It's twice as terrible for the visa sponsor.

Many have self employment or artist visas.

H1B people I've known have worked at their boss' home during the weekend. Another told me how his son thought he'd lost his job because he was home on the weekend instead of at work.

There are hundreds of abuse cases and it pays about 1/3 less (UC Davis study) than the going rate.

It's far cheaper than US workers no matter where they're from.

Make people legal with skilled worker green cards if you need them. Not the BS H1Bs.

I've been through this fucking immigration process, so don't lecture me.

Sorry for your troubles but everyone has troubles. Not an excuse to try to shut me down nor dismiss my experience.

and immigration. until you do, i have no desire to hear about it from anyone. . .female or not.

Had to correct much of the work done by h1b’s and overseas workers. Makes you wonder how much the company would have saved going with fewer but better experienced employees, but I figured they figured 1) it is sometimes easier to edit content than to create content, and 2) they were getting kickbacks somewhere along the way.
Now I imagine some of these same h1bs/overseas employees can leverage or be replaced by AI tools.

from a U.S. college or university.

Should these be "stopped immediately" too?

"The H1B Visa Program Should Be Stopped Immediately"

All of it?

"You know what really chaps my ass? All these fucking Norwegians coming over here stealing all our best brain surgeon jobs. You know what we ought to do, Dan? We oughta down a fifth of Jack and find some fucking weges and beat the shit out of them! Just pound some wege ass."

It isn't about stealing jobs. It's about nativism, xenophobia, and "they took our jobs" as South Park said in a few episodes to mock these assholes.

I lived 23 miles from the Mexican border when I was in Arizona. Most of the migrants don't have shoes and if Americans think they are going to steal the jobs of Americans, those Americans with those jobs are losers of epic fail!

They’ve sent out over a hundred applications for entry level positions. And gotten two interviews with no job offer in the past 6 months.

Their comp sci degree was a huge investment in time, effort and money. It appears to be worthless.

... job postings.

Also go direct to employer websites

US IT unemployment is at 6% which is 50% higher than national average according to WSJ, H1b is being abused to the nth degree

H1B visas are used for cheap labor and to force wages if programmers (code monkeys) down . This part is true.

The H1B is called the slave visa by people who get it to be tied not only to the company that brought them to the US but also to the job title at entry. They cannot receive a promotion without kicking in a return to your home country for 365 days. Companies who use them tell the recipients that if you take another job,we will force you back to your home country for a year and go to the back of the line for a green card. All of my Indian friends have told me how they are stuck until they get their green card which usually has a waiting period of up to ten years.

The TRUTH of the largest number of 'illegal immigrants ' is that the majority in that category are people who qualify for asylum but we're denied asylum and stayed anyway. They can't legally stay in the US and face retribution from corrupt government or gang/militia on their home country. The reality is the vast majority should have been given asylum status to begin with.

their country. If we ended it, we'd be the only country to do it. The J1 visa can also be used, but it's only good for four years with a one time two year extension and then the visa holder MUST leave. But there is NO enforcement.

Most "illegal" came here on a tourist visa and overstayed because they do not WANT to go home. This is the reason there are alot of Chinese "illegal." They came on their non-immigrant visa and overstayed. Students and tourists are the most common. But since enforcement is so weak and highly subjective. . .

jobs that need to be filled. The US desperately needs doctors. I'd be ok with that. But IT workers are an absolute no.

we are one of the only countries that requires an interview for a tourist visa.

after 30 years in the industry. That last job was for a British-owned telecom who had bought out the company I worked for (I often heard of how great the company was before the takeover).

Before my layoff, others had been laid off and replaced by workers coming in from their India division. During that period, I lost count of how many of those gentlemen had no idea how to do the tasks formerly performed by their predecessors, and would ask us to do it for them with the request for us to "please do the needful."

job. But there are plenty of Americans that can too. So no need to import.

Why does Trump have to hire 100 foreign workers in Florida at Mar A Largo?

I didn't realize the unemplyment rate was so low in Florida.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-foreign-workers-mar-lago-1902982

having H1B visa holders on premise is a huge national security risk.

The vast majority of Trump workers came in on 2 other types:

The H-2B visa programme, meant for unskilled workers like gardeners and housekeepers.

and

The H-2A visa programme, which is for agricultural workers.

having H2B visa holders on premise is a huge national security risk.

I heard this being discussed on a program and the immigration expert said this is a common disinfo story. Fact is tech companies need these workers and are willing to pay for them.

a Chinese national, a Q family visa was not allowed to work.

Ours is the H1B.

Every country had problems with people working illegally on the wrong visa or overstaying their visas. It isn't the visa holder (well, it is partially). It's the worthless selective enforcement and people here and around the world incentivized to employ people unlawfully.

In Malaysia when I lived there, there was a big ad: "Malaysians employing foreigners illegally will be subject to fine and/or imprisonment or caning." I remembered saying, looking at that ad in the newspaper in the gym "Christ, these people don't fuck around."

I don’t think it’s only for IT workers. I’ve known H1B workers and they are not slaves. It’s a trade off for them. Low flexibility for the chance to live in the US. Some of them are very good at their jobs.

I think H1B should be changed and heavily scrutinized to make sure it’s meeting its stated purpose (which is actually important to the US), and not just used to bring cheap labor into the US.

The oligarchs like keeping 'their' workers penned up in 'their' nation-states. They like highly restricted temporary 'work permits' as well.

I like the EU model much better: live where you want to live, work where you want to work.

Lower the overhead for the average American and we can work wherever.

Also there ought to be global standards for the rights of workers.

Tech workers. This is the sad fact. It has been going on since the 80's.

It's a useful tool in some ways.

Way back when Russia was in economic freefall, my dept. poached a professor. Wrote the job description for one guy--got an American resident that met the criteria, so they rewrote it. He came over, brought his wife. It was a senior position and he was a feather in the department's cap, so to speak.

Limit it by field. Spot check of payroll records. That sort of thing. Caught abusing the system, no more visas for your company.

Years ago a state implemented a maximum classroom size that really shrank class size. Number of students didn't shrink, so they plopped trailers around campuses for classrooms. And went to hire the thousands of teachers that politicians assumed were just there, on the store shelves, ready to go. And found that they were short in the state by thousands of teachers. They turned to overseas and solved most of their problems. Using--you got it--this visa program.

My maternal ancestors came here in the 1700's and then worked in agriculture.

so long ago, we were grateful to have H1Bs because they were at least in the same building. By the time I was leaving the company I was with, half the work of several of the teams had been completely outsourced to India, and we were relying on a labor force that wasn't even on the same continent. Dealing with them was a complete and total nightmare.

will probably be stopped before anything meaningful is done about other immigration issues.

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In malaysia, they put your visa sponsor right on the visa so if you do something, they can arrest you, process you, call your sponsor and ask if they want your visa cancelled. So, you will lose your freedom, your job, the life you established, and get deported immediately.

All work visa laws in every country are tailored that the visa holder has next to no rights. Rock a boat, cancel the visa.

33 years ago I worked as a tech writer at Mastech, which was referred to as a body shop. They brought in young IT workers from India, paid much less for their services. I remember thinking as I heard all about their visas, of course this is a corporate scam. There are literally 1000s of Americans that can do these jobs. But both Dems ans repubs have allowed this nonsense

this kind of outrage when blue collar jobs were being outsourced.