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gab13by13

(27,397 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 09:54 AM Dec 2024

Does Trump Really Owe His Allegiance To Unwashed Magats

Does Trump owe hos allegiance to unwashed Magats for being elected president, or does he owe it to Putin/Musk?

Trump certainly acted like he didn't need their votes.

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Does Trump Really Owe His Allegiance To Unwashed Magats (Original Post) gab13by13 Dec 2024 OP
Putin/Pres. Musk Bettie Dec 2024 #1
He doesn't owe them anything. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2024 #2
"We don't need no stinking magats." - G.O.P. Felon & Billionaire Bros (R) BoRaGard Dec 2024 #3
Maybe Trump knew he didn't need their votes, that the fix was in? sop Dec 2024 #4
He stated that several times on campaign trail. travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #12
He thinks he doesn't owe anyone anything paleotn Dec 2024 #5
His allegiance is to himself. Everyone else is a sucker to be used and discarded. Autumn Dec 2024 #6
Exactly! A narcissistic sociopath. surfered Dec 2024 #7
Never believe that most of them will learn and change their minds. they won't . A few mucifer Dec 2024 #8
GOP hate and have no respect for their voters Johonny Dec 2024 #9
Nope n/t rasputin1952 Dec 2024 #10
Well, he *did* need their votes Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #11
They Think He Does. MineralMan Dec 2024 #13
No, *rump's only heartfelt allegiance is to the Almighty... Buns_of_Fire Dec 2024 #14

Bettie

(18,100 posts)
1. Putin/Pres. Musk
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:00 AM
Dec 2024

He might like to speak on a stage in front of MAGAts, but it is hilarious to me that they think he cares about anything or anyone but himself.

He strikes me as someone who has never loved anyone but himself.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,266 posts)
2. He doesn't owe them anything.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:07 AM
Dec 2024

Nor does he care about them one bit.

He used them to attain office and now he no longer needs them. Their opinions and feelings are meaningless.

But you know, no matter what he does, they’ll end up supporting him in the end.

They were mad a couple days ago but they jump right back on board. That’s how a cult works.

travelingthrulife

(1,948 posts)
12. He stated that several times on campaign trail.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:12 PM
Dec 2024

Putin's public rep said Trump owed him after they helped him win.

paleotn

(20,199 posts)
5. He thinks he doesn't owe anyone anything
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 2024

It’s all about him. He’d screw over his own mother if it gave him an advantage.

Putin is in a very weak position right now with the Ukraine quagmire, Syria all but gone from the Russian orbit, the Ruble on the skids, etc. I wonder how that Putin / Trump dynamic will work out know. The world has changed since his first term. Will Trump consider himself the senior partner or no partner at all? Could Putin “blow him up” out of spite?

mucifer

(25,091 posts)
8. Never believe that most of them will learn and change their minds. they won't . A few
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:51 AM
Dec 2024

will . But, the majority are primed to believe what they are told.

I used to be optimistic when hearing that some were waking up to reality.

We need to be realistic. It didn't happen before and it's not going to happen in the future.

they will always blame us and stand up for hate and trickle down economics.

Johonny

(23,172 posts)
9. GOP hate and have no respect for their voters
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:52 AM
Dec 2024

The least hidden secret in all of politics. Their loyalty is taken for granted and their intelligence and self respect long surrendered.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,023 posts)
11. Well, he *did* need their votes
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:09 PM
Dec 2024

But he doesn’t need them anymore.

And never will again.

Occam’s razor.

No CT required.

MineralMan

(148,780 posts)
13. They Think He Does.
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:19 PM
Dec 2024

He thinks otherwise. Soon, they'll all know that he thinks he owes them nothing.

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