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CousinIT

(10,520 posts) Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:17 AM Monday

One reason I so respected Jimmy Carter ...

... was that he was the ONLY MAN and the only person who defined himself as a Christian that I EVER heard say things like quote below. Is the subjugation and human devaluation of women from 'God' or men? I think it is from men, and JC had the spine to SAY it.

(The alleviation of women's abuse) "is made less likely by the mandated subservience of women by Christian fundamentalists. What is especially disappointing...is the docile acceptance by so many strong Christian women of their subjugation & restricted role."
- Jimmy Carter (RIP)

-From his book "Our Endangered Values - America's Moral Crisis"

Another Jimmy Carter quote about women & girls:

I have become convinced that the most serious and unaddressed worldwide challenge is the deprivation and abuse of women and girls, largely caused by a false interpretation of carefully selected religious texts and a growing tolerance of violence and warfare, unfortunately following the example set during my lifetime by the United States. — From 2014 book “A Call to Action.”

AND...

MORE....

“As its most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities...”

"The abuse of women and girls is the most pervasive and unaddressed human rights violation on Earth."
-From “A Call to Action: Women, Religion, Violence, & Power” by Jimmy Carter, 2014

https://www.jimmycartertribute.org/in-his-words/quotes.html

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One reason I so respected Jimmy Carter ... (Original Post) CousinIT Monday OP

Truly a wise man. underpants Monday #1

one of many reasons i respected him rampartd Monday #2

He left the Southern Baptist church Freddie Monday #3

I don't know about his sister but his Dad was a racist and he rejected that. CousinIT Monday #4

Second-best Christian I ever knew, next to my Granny. Now there was a good Christian woman. None better. mucholderthandirt Monday #5

You were lucky CousinIT Monday #6

The things that stands out most for me when considering the life of President Carter, patphil Monday #7

Humanity lost big when Jerry2144 Monday #8

his initials. barbtries Monday #9

A GIANT of a man! brakester Monday #10

He was slandered - and the press gladly helped. erronis Monday #13

Thank you for this collection of some of the wisdom of Jimmy Carter erronis Monday #11

Some of us brakester Monday #12

He was also interested in eradicating tropical diseases that mainly affect poor areas of the world. alarimer Monday #14

underpants

(187,525 posts)

1. Truly a wise man.

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:23 AM

Monday

rampartd

(954 posts)

2. one of many reasons i respected him

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:41 AM

Monday

and probably one reason the televangelists hated him.

Freddie

(9,756 posts)

3. He left the Southern Baptist church

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:46 AM

Monday

Due to their treatment of women. Wasn’t his sister a SBC minister? Back before they went back to caveman values (no offense to cavemen).

CousinIT

(10,520 posts)

4. I don't know about his sister but his Dad was a racist and he rejected that.

Reply to Freddie (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:52 AM

Monday

He left the SBC because of the lack of diversity and racism/sexism.

His morals and his heart were always in the right place.

He may be the last person in our lifetimes who had their head screwed on straight and one of the last decent Presidents (along with Clinton, Obama, Biden).

Now, we seem to be only able to elect rapacious conmen, oligarchs, and felons who are above the law and openly corrupt. And why not? There are no repercussions or accountability for it.

mucholderthandirt

(1,232 posts)

5. Second-best Christian I ever knew, next to my Granny. Now there was a good Christian woman. None better.

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:09 AM

Monday

Okay, maybe Jimmy's Rosalyn, but otherwise, I stand by it.

CousinIT

(10,520 posts)

6. You were lucky

Reply to mucholderthandirt (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:27 AM

Monday

to have someone like that in your family.

patphil

(7,152 posts)

7. The things that stands out most for me when considering the life of President Carter,

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:45 AM

Monday

were his honesty, integrity, and humanity.
He was always a kind, generous, loving man...a true Christian; the very definition of what it meant to be a follower of the teachings of Jesus.

Jerry2144

(2,643 posts)

8. Humanity lost big when

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:58 AM

Monday

President Carter lost his reelection bid.

barbtries

(29,998 posts)

9. his initials.

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:06 PM

Monday

I'm an atheist but JC is a common abbreviation for the good guy JC patterned his life after.

just a little rhyme of nature.

brakester

(154 posts)

10. A GIANT of a man!

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:07 PM

Monday

who was mercilessly slandered by pre-magats.

Also, the same goes for Roslyn.

I see a confluence of his death and the rise of the SLUBBERDEGULLION as the next resident, as the ending of The Carter Era.

May the goddess of all good things have mercy on our souls!

If I believed in the Bible myths, I would say that President Carter as the second coming of Jesus Christ, and that the felonator as the Antichrist.

erronis

(17,239 posts)

13. He was slandered - and the press gladly helped.

Reply to brakester (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:28 PM

Monday

The mainstream media even back then was owned by the plutocrats and lovers of money.

erronis

(17,239 posts)

11. Thank you for this collection of some of the wisdom of Jimmy Carter

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:10 PM

Monday

I'm slowly learning what a wise and caring person he was.

brakester

(154 posts)

12. Some of us

Reply to erronis (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 12:19 PM

Monday

we're very privileged to be around during his Presidency and the way he lived his life after leaving the Presidency.
There are SO MANY parallels between Mr. Carter and Jesus! Especially how so many powerful and corrupt forces aligned against them both!!!!

alarimer

(16,655 posts)

14. He was also interested in eradicating tropical diseases that mainly affect poor areas of the world.

Reply to CousinIT (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 01:05 PM

Monday

They nearly succeeded in eliminating guinea worm and have made lots of progress on others like river blindness (also a parasitic infection).

The guinea worm eradication project focused on giving poor people access to clean water (this would actually help with a lot of infections and conditions).

A lot of Christians in this country don't actually care about poor people anywhere. He was the real deal.

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