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surfered

(3,850 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:18 AM Monday

Court slaps down Trump's appeal in the E Jean Carroll case

Source: Raw Story

The United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has slapped down President-elect Donald Trump's efforts to throw out a jury verdict that found he defamed and sexually abused journalist E. Jean Carroll.

In the ruling, the court not only affirmed the jury's verdict against Trump but also chided him for not putting forth anything close to sufficient evidence that would make the court even consider overturning it.

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BoRaGard

(3,271 posts)
1. "OK, he's a felon and a rapist, but he's still our beloved family-values role model." - G.O.P. (R)
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:25 AM
Monday

Princess Turandot

(4,831 posts)
7. Upon filing the appeal, he deposited a check for $5 million with the court..
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 11:16 AM
Monday

That was the full amount owed to her in this particular case.

I assume that she has to wait for any future appeals to be filed/decided before it's released, but I don't know that for sure.

mopinko

(72,021 posts)
4. when is he going to b judged a vexatious litigant and barred from the courtroom?
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 10:36 AM
Monday

shd have happened decades ago. he’s gotten as much mileage out of bullshit law suits as he has out of blackmail.

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,746 posts)
8. Lisa Rubin has a good thread on this opinion
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 02:32 PM
Tuesday

Reading the opinion and this thread was amusing brought back memories of the evidence class that I took in law school



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1874116905830932850.html
The appellate decision affirming E. Jean Carroll’s first jury verdict against Donald Trump is a 77-page foray into rules of evidence. You might be tempted to put it aside. Don’t look away. 1/
Its holdings about the use of testimony from other sexual assault victims and other evidence that shows a defendant’s modus operandi not only will complicate Trump’s continued efforts to fight Carroll’s two jury verdicts but will reverberate throughout federal courts. 2/
Perhaps the most significant part, at least to this observer, is the court refusing to find error in the trial court’s admission of the Access Hollywood tape. 3/
In general, federal evidentiary rules prohibit the admission of a defendant’s “prior bad acts” to show their propensity to commit the crime or conduct at issue. But there are exceptions, including where the evidence tends to show a pattern or modus operandi. 4/
And that’s exactly what, according to the three-judge appellate panel, the tape, coupled with the other accusers’ testimony showed: “a repeated, idiosyncratic pattern of conduct consistent with what Ms. Carroll alleged.” 5/
The panel continued, “In each of the three encounters, Mr. Trump engaged in an ordinary conversation with a woman he barely knew, then abruptly lunged at
her in a semi-public place and proceeded to kiss and forcefully touch her without her consent.” 6/
And those acts, they ruled, “are sufficiently similar to show a pattern or ‘recurring modus operandi.’” 7/
One of my friends told me over the weekend that she has never been so despondent about women’s power, at least the kind of power they obtain and exercise independently, not derivatively from a male parent, partner, or mentor. 8/
And while I wholly appreciate where she is coming from, remember this: 2024 was also the year in which a federal appeals court decided that the word of three women, juxtaposed against the smirking admissions of one man, could justify a game-changing jury verdict. 9/
Even if that man is the former or future president. 10/
p.s. We have been trained to think accountability comes solely through criminal law. Let 2025 be the year that we stop treating civil judgments like prosecutions’ poor relation. What matters, as Gisele Pelicot reminds us, is that the shame changes sides.
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