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Quiet Em

(1,520 posts) Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:22 PM Dec 30

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Elon Musk is on a collision course with Stephen Miller

Miller is the hardline anti-immigration ideologue who effectively oversaw immigration policy for the first Trump administration as a senior White House aide. He spent Trump’s first term mastering the workings of the federal bureaucracy and was one of only a few high-level appointees to remain in the boss’s good graces. In Trump’s second term, he’ll have another high-level role, as deputy White House chief of policy.

As I wrote in a September profile, Miller is the architect of Trump’s mass deportation agenda — but he’s also pushed hard to restrict legal immigration including H-1B visas specifically, despite his boss’s sometimes contradictory impulses on the issue. In Trump’s first term, Miller was tenacious enough that he eventually got his way: The administration cited the pandemic to “temporarily” suspend all H-1B visas while crafting rules designed to drastically limit the program.

So while Musk might be encouraged by the broadly positive comments on H-1B visas Trump made to a reporter on Saturday — the president-elect said he’s “been a believer in H-1B” — the real question is: Can Musk win a policy war with Miller?

one more interesting tidbit I wasn't aware of

Finally, there’s yet another twist to this messy saga — shortly before this dispute began last week, Trump announced he’d chosen a new appointee to join Musk and Ramaswamy at DOGE.

Her name? Katie Miller — Stephen’s wife.

https://www.vox.com/politics/392864/elon-musk-vivek-h1b-visas-trump-stephen-miller

This MAGA Civil War is not going to go away.

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Elon Musk is on a collision course with Stephen Miller (Original Post) Quiet Em Dec 30 OP

Well, corn farmers are gonna make out OK Attilatheblond Dec 30 #1

... SheltieLover Dec 30 #11

When an unstoppable farce meets an immovable offensive. tanyev Dec 30 #2

Good one! lostnfound Dec 30 #7

DUzy! mahina Dec 30 #9

This will be fun to watch LetMyPeopleVote Dec 30 #3

Gee, I hope they don't have guns. Think. Again. Dec 30 #4

I hope they do state of stupid Dec 30 #18

Straight Hot Garbage administration uponit7771 Dec 30 #5

Even the racists cant agree on who to hate. lostnfound Dec 30 #6

The incoming admin is one big rat's nest of nepotism and incestuous hiring. Guess it's allegorical oracle Dec 30 #8

Elect a clown, expect a circus. Initech Dec 30 #10

Please proceed... SheltieLover Dec 30 #12

Miller will back down gab13by13 Dec 30 #13

Back down? Red Mountain Dec 30 #14

Miller is only concerned about brown people south of the border and the stray bat that he eats weekly. madinmaryland Dec 30 #17

Hopefully it's a super energetic collision Red Mountain Dec 30 #15

Popcorn here! Grab your popcorn! sakabatou Dec 30 #16

Jesus. What self-hating woman actually johnnyfins Dec 30 #19

Katie Waldman and Stephen Miller Wed at Trump Hotel Celerity Dec 30 #20

Some people are saying Stephen Miller eats live mice as a snack Katie Miller gets them for him irisblue Dec 30 #21

Good. eppur_se_muova Dec 31 #22

I'm not sure he cares about h1bs that much JI7 Dec 31 #23

I don't think hb1 folks Tickle Dec 31 #24

Attilatheblond

(5,033 posts)

1. Well, corn farmers are gonna make out OK

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:25 PM

Dec 30

SheltieLover

(61,812 posts)

11. ...

Reply to Attilatheblond (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:36 PM

Dec 30

tanyev

(45,185 posts)

2. When an unstoppable farce meets an immovable offensive.

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:31 PM

Dec 30

lostnfound

(16,820 posts)

7. Good one!

Reply to tanyev (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:46 PM

Dec 30

Did you make that up?

mahina

(19,341 posts)

9. DUzy!

Reply to tanyev (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:54 PM

Dec 30

LetMyPeopleVote

(157,348 posts)

3. This will be fun to watch

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:41 PM

Dec 30

Think. Again.

(21,170 posts)

4. Gee, I hope they don't have guns.

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:43 PM

Dec 30

state of stupid

(118 posts)

18. I hope they do

Reply to Think. Again. (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 08:06 PM

Dec 30

I just do not know whether to be happy or sad about my saying that
not about the outcome of what will happen if they do.

uponit7771

(92,307 posts)

5. Straight Hot Garbage administration

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:44 PM

Dec 30

lostnfound

(16,820 posts)

6. Even the racists cant agree on who to hate.

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:46 PM

Dec 30

Well, maybe on who to hate, but not who to hire.

allegorical oracle

(3,882 posts)

8. The incoming admin is one big rat's nest of nepotism and incestuous hiring. Guess it's

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:50 PM

Dec 30

the simplest way to prevent anyone leaking to media or lawyers -- and to keep taxpayer dollars all in the family.

Initech

(103,272 posts)

10. Elect a clown, expect a circus.

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:00 PM

Dec 30

Wasn't it nice having competent adults in charge instead of a bunch of screaming toddlers? I wish we could have that back!

SheltieLover

(61,812 posts)

12. Please proceed...

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:37 PM

Dec 30

gab13by13

(26,166 posts)

13. Miller will back down

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 06:40 PM

Dec 30

Putin/Musk call the shots.

Red Mountain

(1,981 posts)

14. Back down?

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 07:06 PM

Dec 30

or be bought?

Stephen probably has a price.

madinmaryland

(65,262 posts)

17. Miller is only concerned about brown people south of the border and the stray bat that he eats weekly.

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 07:32 PM

Dec 30

Red Mountain

(1,981 posts)

15. Hopefully it's a super energetic collision

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 07:09 PM

Dec 30

that would put the Large Hadron Collider to shame.

Discover some of the fundamental building blocks of Republicans.

Science stuff.

sakabatou

(43,800 posts)

16. Popcorn here! Grab your popcorn!

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 07:23 PM

Dec 30

johnnyfins

(1,649 posts)

19. Jesus. What self-hating woman actually

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 08:19 PM

Dec 30

married that creep?

Celerity

(47,670 posts)

20. Katie Waldman and Stephen Miller Wed at Trump Hotel

Reply to johnnyfins (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 08:53 PM

Dec 30

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/fashion/weddings/stephen-miller-wedding-katie-waldman.html

irisblue

(34,590 posts)

21. Some people are saying Stephen Miller eats live mice as a snack Katie Miller gets them for him

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 09:04 PM

Dec 30

eppur_se_muova

(38,146 posts)

22. Good.

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:02 AM

Dec 31

Tie them together with a two-foot length of rope around one wrist of each. Give each a knife, and leave them to settle it between themselves.

Who would win ? We all would.

JI7

(91,245 posts)

23. I'm not sure he cares about h1bs that much

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2024, 04:10 AM

Dec 31

He seems to be about wanting to hurt people by doing things like separating parents and kids.

Limiting or even ending h1bs won't give him the satisfaction.

Tickle

(3,385 posts)

24. I don't think hb1 folks

Reply to Quiet Em (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2024, 06:36 AM

Dec 31

are the ones he's planning on departing. The tRump administration hasn't started yet. I'll check in in February to see how things are going

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