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Ocelot II

(122,585 posts)
2. Why would the US military be any better at it than trained firefighters?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jan 11

Anyhow, that's really up to California; they have their own National Guard that can be activated if needed.

Bobstandard

(1,787 posts)
5. First, Newsome has ordered in the National Guard,
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:49 PM
Jan 11

Second, there’s this thing called the Posse Comitatus Act which limits the President’s ability to do stuff like this.

Finally, just because you’re in the Army doesn’t mean you know how to fight fires.

If Trump were President he’d probably order in the troops to restore order or some damn thing, whether it’s legal for him to do it or not.

Tarzanrock

(595 posts)
6. The U.S. Air Force fights fires.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:53 PM
Jan 11

In the 1970s, Congress established the MAFFS system after a major fire burned into Long Beach, Calif., destroyed hundreds of homes, and overwhelmed the civilian tanker fleet's ability to respond. Today, one Air Force Reserve Command and three Air National Guard locations participate in the MAFFS Program.

Tarzanrock

(595 posts)
9. The fact is that the Palisades fire has been burning since Tuesday morning;
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jan 11

It burned all day Tuesday; Wednesday; Thursday; Friday; and, now all day Saturday. High winds, in fact almost hurricane force Santa Ana winds, are forecast for the rest of the weekend and for Monday and Tuesday. That fire is now spreading into Brentwood and Encino -- where is the response from the Federal Government?

Ocelot II

(122,585 posts)
10. What do you think the federal government should be doing that is not already being done?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jan 11

How do you think the federal government can stop hurricane-force winds? The reality, as Lawrence O'Donnell explained so eloquently, is that the fire won't be controlled until the winds drop, no matter who's trying to fight it. It's a hurricane with fire.

Tarzanrock

(595 posts)
12. A lot can be done if and only if it were ordered to be done.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jan 11

Not responding and doing nothing is no solution to putting out the fire. The U.S. Military can be deployed; FEMA; the Army Corps. of Engineers; the U.S. Air Force. More boots on the ground never hurts in responding to a catastrophe. Does the entire City of Los Angeles have to burn down before the Federal Government acts?

Ocelot II

(122,585 posts)
14. Once again: What, exactly, do you think should be done,
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:42 PM
Jan 11

and who, exactly, should be doing it?

Tarzanrock

(595 posts)
13. I live in Los Angeles.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jan 11

I know exactly what is happening. I'm breathing the toxic, carcinogenic polluted air from these fires.

Iggo

(48,688 posts)
16. How is the army supposed to stop you from breathing?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:48 PM
Jan 11

Other than their usual way, I mean.

Tarzanrock

(595 posts)
17. The fact is that this is the same delayed, do nothing response which $hrub Bu$h was legitimately criticized for
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:49 PM
Jan 11

in Katrina in New Orleans.

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ProfessorGAC

(71,375 posts)
21. For The 9th Time
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jan 11

What do you think this deployment should be instructed to do?
Don't talk about delays & deployments.
Answer the question: What is it these troops, almost certainly trained in other specialties, would do?

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