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orangecrush

(22,861 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:46 PM Jan 11

So now we have Bluesky


How long will it be till someone comes up with an alternative to Facebook that is good enough to cause another mass exodus?

I shiver with delight at the possibility.

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So now we have Bluesky (Original Post) orangecrush Jan 11 OP
I like bluesky so far J-9 Jan 11 #1
I wish that would happen edhopper Jan 11 #2
Blue skies/Willie Nelson cbabe Jan 11 #3
I'm shivering along with you. Baitball Blogger Jan 11 #4
Instagram too. Dont have facebook or threads.... but i really like instagram. IcyPeas Jan 11 #5
I like where your head's at ......nt DoBW Jan 11 #6
Thanks orangecrush Jan 12 #19
Bluesky is an alternative to Twitter/X, NOT Facebook. valleyrogue Jan 11 #7
THIS Mad_Machine76 Jan 11 #8
Gonna check this. Isn't this run by Omar, the founder of AllyCat Jan 11 #15
I don't know. Mad_Machine76 Jan 12 #32
Tribel is owned by the Occupy Democrats fake news grifters. Hard pass. Celerity Jan 12 #42
Occupy!!! That's right! And he donated to republicans. AllyCat Jan 12 #45
That's the point Wiz Imp Jan 11 #13
We should all go back to MySpace Polybius Jan 12 #30
Exactly BUT orangecrush Jan 12 #20
"I am not going to give up FB" speak easy Jan 12 #25
Facebook is cancer JoseBalow Jan 11 #9
Bluesky doesn't seem likely to follow in Twitter's footsteps. summer_in_TX Jan 12 #18
Not if it were run orangecrush Jan 12 #21
Weaning myself off of facebook - will delete account on 1/20 Nictuku Jan 11 #10
What is Zuckerberg thinking? jgmiller Jan 11 #11
I like BlueSky, and I'm in the narket for a fb replacement too! ms liberty Jan 11 #12
Technically, it's not hard. usonian Jan 11 #14
Thanks for this orangecrush Jan 12 #22
We have a 14er in Colorado named Blue Sky DENVERPOPS Jan 11 #16
I Like BlueSky WiVoter Jan 11 #17
Same orangecrush Jan 12 #23
Im not sure its such a good idea to abandon twitter. TheDudeCa Jan 12 #24
Twitter is the current largest spreader of nazism, hatred, and disinformation. Twitter is laughable as a solution to FSogol Jan 12 #26
I think Elon changed the algorithm to push conservative posts. The government needs to look into it imo. TheDudeCa Jan 12 #27
Still laughable. Twitter is mostly Russian bots. FSogol Jan 12 #28
Problem with having the government look into twitter Attilatheblond Jan 12 #29
The government? Lulu KC Jan 12 #33
State governments can sue. Someone needs to because twitter TheDudeCa Jan 12 #34
So a state government is going to sue Twitter in the middle of a fire about what they're posting regarding a mayor? Lulu KC Jan 12 #36
Nobody is talking about rn. Im talking in the future. Dems are going to really struggle in elections going TheDudeCa Jan 12 #38
Rn? Some of you? Lulu KC Jan 12 #39
Here's some rn 4u KS Toronado Jan 12 #41
How old are you? TheDudeCa Jan 12 #44
What's the hell is rn? KS Toronado Jan 13 #46
Or older naive. RN is right now. TheDudeCa Jan 13 #53
Could part of that be that many non-RW people have gone elsewhere? Lulu KC Jan 13 #54
Turning away is not the answer if all of the celebs and reporters are on it. TheDudeCa Jan 13 #57
But they're not all on it Lulu KC Jan 13 #58
Question TWITTERMAN KS Toronado Jan 13 #55
Hey TWITTERMAN , do you do fakebook? KS Toronado Jan 12 #37
In case you think it hasn't been noticed Lulu KC Jan 13 #50
I see people flock from platform to platform, each promising to be better, snot Jan 12 #31
Blue Sky Trust_Reality Jan 12 #35
It's not a FB alternate. But neither was Twitter. LeftInTX Jan 12 #40
I'm not all that satisfied with Bluesky--- Jack Valentino Jan 12 #43
I have no spam followers there orangecrush Jan 13 #48
I just joined and I do. LeftInTX Jan 13 #49
Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells! Jack Valentino Jan 13 #59
Gab is the GOP's FB alternative LeftInTX Jan 13 #47
I love the fact Bluesky is led by women mainer Jan 13 #51
I wish for a replacement for Facebook as well. pandr32 Jan 13 #52
California Peggy is on Bluesky. And I found Skittles, also, though I don't know if it madinmaryland Jan 13 #56
So, younger folks are on Red Book - TBF Jan 13 #60

J-9

(56 posts)
1. I like bluesky so far
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 08:49 PM
Jan 11

I had a Twitter account but left long before Apartheid Leon.

@j969.bsky.social

valleyrogue

(1,492 posts)
7. Bluesky is an alternative to Twitter/X, NOT Facebook.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jan 11

There is no real alternative to FB in terms of keeping contact with family and friends. Sorry, but for that reason I am not going to give up FB. I have photos I share with family and friends, and I like the different NON-POLITICAL groups over there. It is the best way to maintain contact. I have Instagram, but I rarely use it. I don't care for and don't use TikTok.

I still use Twitter/X because there are groups and topics I like to follow having nothing to do with politics. I am also on Bluesky.

Not everything is about politics.

Mad_Machine76

(24,816 posts)
8. THIS
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:05 PM
Jan 11

Bluesky is definitely NOT comparable to FB. There is a FB-like alternative out there I just started exploring called Tribel but it remains to be seen if it will grow into a viable alternative.

https://www.m.tribel.com/public/trending

Wiz Imp

(3,284 posts)
13. That's the point
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:00 PM
Jan 11

Bluesky has emerged as a sane alternative to Twitter. Now if only someone would come up with a sane alternative to Facebook, then everyone could dump facebook like they've dumped Twitter.

speak easy

(11,115 posts)
25. "I am not going to give up FB"
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:05 AM
Jan 12

Every American on FB adds to their power. "I am not going to give up FB" = I don't care.

summer_in_TX

(3,409 posts)
18. Bluesky doesn't seem likely to follow in Twitter's footsteps.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:22 AM
Jan 12

Thankfully.

They allow the user to control their own experience to a remarkable degree. Nice to have a woman as CEO. Seems to have a more pro-social outlook than the South African billionaire does. I think a number have people have expressed willingness to pay for an account, but it's still free. And no advertising! Refreshing.

As for FB, it has such a large number of users that it is unequaled in organizing, unfortunately for my desire to get rid of it. I manage several organizations' Facebook pages and groups, so leaving is not an option unless I'm willing to stop volunteering.

Nictuku

(4,012 posts)
10. Weaning myself off of facebook - will delete account on 1/20
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:41 PM
Jan 11

BlueSky and DU are working for me. facebook is mostly ads or sponsored shit, lots of those do misdirects and try to scare you (VIRUS!!!) into calling their call center.

And now with this latest, no fact checkers and backing down on DEI bs, that is enough

jgmiller

(481 posts)
11. What is Zuckerberg thinking?
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:54 PM
Jan 11

I have 3 ideas

1. He is just purely sucking up to Trump, this is way too simplistic he lived through the other 4 years of Trump and he's got a lot more money and power now.
2. He's got whatever billionaire disease that hit Musk, Thiel and Bezos. He's always been a little creep but this stuff seems way to quick for me. Musk has been on the path to total insanity for years.
3. He see's that even though half the US hates Musk and has abandonned X the other half loves his and is embracing X and now Zuckerberg figures this is what can save FB/IG. Maybe he's anticipating Musk burning out very soon and X collapsing so he wants to be positioned to pick up the refugees.

Honestly I'm not sure which is true but I'm leaning towards #3

ms liberty

(9,925 posts)
12. I like BlueSky, and I'm in the narket for a fb replacement too!
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 10:56 PM
Jan 11

I have spent less and less time there for a while now. The latest news just makes me more done with them.

usonian

(15,523 posts)
14. Technically, it's not hard.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:03 PM
Jan 11

Without all the "Surveillance Capitalism" which requires massive tracking of everything you post, and auctioning your data to advertisers, instead of giant data centers the size of a small town, small operations can work fine. (and AI is exponentially increasing the power and computing demand, for reasons that few people outside the porn creation world can make use of)

Craig's List started out with a computer or two in Crag Newmark's closet.

I don't know much about it now, but get this: Craig sells ads to users with something to sell. All the others sell users to advertisers, and in the most disreputable way.

Surveillance Capitalism
Harvard Business School:
https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=56791


Abstract
In this masterwork of original thinking and research, Shoshana Zuboff provides startling insights into the phenomenon that she has named surveillance capitalism. The stakes could not be higher: a global architecture of behavior modification threatens human nature in the 21st century just as industrial capitalism disfigured the natural world in the 20th.

Zuboff vividly brings to life the consequences as surveillance capitalism advances from Silicon Valley into every economic sector. Vast wealth and power are accumulated in ominous new “behavioral futures markets,” where predictions about our behavior are bought and sold, and the production of goods and services is subordinated to a new “means of behavioral modification.”

The threat has shifted from a totalitarian Big Brother state to a ubiquitous digital architecture: a “Big Other” operating in the interests of surveillance capital. Here is the crucible of an unprecedented form of power marked by extreme concentrations of knowledge and free from democratic oversight. Zuboff’s comprehensive and moving analysis lays bare the threats to 21st century society: a controlled “hive” of total connection that seduces with promises of total certainty for maximum profit—at the expense of democracy, freedom, and our human future.

With little resistance from law or society, surveillance capitalism is on the verge of dominating the social order and shaping the digital future—if we let it.


Interview with the author: Shoshana Zuboff
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/03/harvard-professor-says-surveillance-capitalism-is-undermining-democracy/

DENVERPOPS

(10,617 posts)
16. We have a 14er in Colorado named Blue Sky
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 11:27 PM
Jan 11

Renamed recently due to the previous name being an asshole from our earlier years.....

 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
24. Im not sure its such a good idea to abandon twitter.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:30 AM
Jan 12

Twitter basically the media now. Its scary, but there needs to be something bigger than Blue sky

FSogol

(47,103 posts)
26. Twitter is the current largest spreader of nazism, hatred, and disinformation. Twitter is laughable as a solution to
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:40 AM
Jan 12

the media.

 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
27. I think Elon changed the algorithm to push conservative posts. The government needs to look into it imo.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jan 12

Because its influence is massive right now.

FSogol

(47,103 posts)
28. Still laughable. Twitter is mostly Russian bots.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:06 PM
Jan 12


Oh and the RW government is going to look into RW disinformation? Grab a clue!

Attilatheblond

(5,030 posts)
29. Problem with having the government look into twitter
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jan 12

Is that Musk bought the largest share of the government already. Hostile corporate takeovers are a thing.

Lulu KC

(6,153 posts)
33. The government?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jan 12

You mean the government that he appears to control to a large degree? How would that work?

 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
34. State governments can sue. Someone needs to because twitter
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jan 12

Is the most power source for miss information rn. I guarantee twitter will probably get Karen Bass recalled

Lulu KC

(6,153 posts)
36. So a state government is going to sue Twitter in the middle of a fire about what they're posting regarding a mayor?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jan 12

Not following this logic, and there actually are many other sources of information than X.

Are you saying that Xitter and DU are the only sources on your radar at this time?

 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
38. Nobody is talking about rn. Im talking in the future. Dems are going to really struggle in elections going
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 09:58 PM
Jan 12

Forward. And it's all because of twitter. Some of you really don't comprehend what's going on. Elon musk has built a more powerful version of fox news

 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
53. Or older naive. RN is right now.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jan 13

Ive been on twitter for yrs and it was never like it is now. Never. During the elect, pro trump posts were elevated. It was crazy. If you think you can win a nation Election with the richest man in the world manipulating voters, you're crazy. I fear not enough attention is being put on twitter and how narratives start their and find their way into the mainstream. Elon Musk is worse than Rupert Murdoch ever was

Lulu KC

(6,153 posts)
54. Could part of that be that many non-RW people have gone elsewhere?
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 05:31 PM
Jan 13

It is truly an echo chamber now. Many people do not want to give EM an opportunity to make any $ with their usage. I used to enjoy it for immediate access to reporters on the ground, but they're not there anymore. Few want to support EM, and there is no point in trying to engage in any discourse there anymore. The bots just eat real voices up.

I don't sense any lack of awareness about it, here or elsewhere. I hear you saying that Democrats are somehow oblivious to it, but I have seen a massive turning away since EM bought it and even more so since BlueSky started. What makes you think anyone's not paying attention?





 

TheDudeCa

(10 posts)
57. Turning away is not the answer if all of the celebs and reporters are on it.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jan 13

And it was like this before the election. The guy would promote Trump ads to the front page and shit on Kamala. Whatever they were accusing facebook of in 2016, Musk did that and then some.

KS Toronado

(20,326 posts)
55. Question TWITTERMAN
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jan 13

If Elon Musk is so terrible why do I get the impression you want more people to join you on X to
fight the influence he has in the world? Meanwhile making him richer by being on X seems self-
defeating. Plenty of OPs on DU encouraging people to quit X, why don't you take their advice?
sylasmdyhaiydmfwijs?

snot

(10,928 posts)
31. I see people flock from platform to platform, each promising to be better,
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jan 12

each privately owned and with terms of service that permit changes and sales at-will by the owner and otherwise minimizing any rights of users (including free speech or privacy rights).

Imho, we might as well all have saved ourselves a lot of trouble and stayed on MySpace or Friendster, unless and until we actually have a platform owned and controlled by the users (like a credit union, which not only charges no fees to maintain a checking account there but actually pays interest on the balance and generally treats members much better than commercial banks do).

LeftInTX

(32,025 posts)
40. It's not a FB alternate. But neither was Twitter.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jan 12

At least that's my opinion. Twitter is mostly for breaking news before the media has time to write an article. It's good for emergency stuff. Fortunately much of the media is on BlueSky. I like that you don't have to be a member to read posts and comments. My Democratic House member is not yet on it. Neither is my Democratic city council member. They're still just doing twitter and fb.

I also have two fake Keanu Reeves following me...

Jack Valentino

(1,616 posts)
43. I'm not all that satisfied with Bluesky---
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 11:17 PM
Jan 12

because most of my followers are "fantasy spam girls" or scammers offering money, which I dearly need at the moment...

Now sadly I am filtering my female "followers"-- by whether they look like a "real woman" or whether they look like a "model photo" scammed from the internet--- with which I am overwhelmed

Don't even get me started with the "personal messages"-- almost half of which are now "account deleted"...

If I had a dime for every account offering me money or some kind of-- whatever--
I could buy a few more beers! jajajajajjaa

I was almost taken in by one, who had a good "back-story" on their account,
until they directed that I must join some Chinese messaging app....

Their account was later also deleted.

Think they claimed to be a highly placed corporate officer with a big US corporation,
giving out money for Christmas---


That would have actually been a VERY GOOD public relations gimmick for any such big US corporation,
drowning in money---- but they don't give it away, do they.

Merry Christmas.





LeftInTX

(32,025 posts)
49. I just joined and I do.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 10:55 AM
Jan 13

I think Pat Dennis might be real. (I follow independent media and local politicians, so maybe that's where he picked me up) However, none of the people I follow are following me.

I may follow him, but I don't know if he's real. He is followed by a local columnist, who I follow on bsky.
He's also followed by the Texas Trib Editor, so I think I will follow him:
https://bsky.app/profile/patdennis.bsky.social

This is the second Keanu Reeves who has followed me..LOL

Jack Valentino

(1,616 posts)
59. Pull this leg and it plays jingle bells!
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:08 PM
Jan 13

I got placed onto some lists, which were posted and reposted, had over 1000 followers in two weeks, which may have a lot to do with it...
but to say that you have "NO spam followers" seems like a stretch--- unless you have practically no followers...

mainer

(12,267 posts)
51. I love the fact Bluesky is led by women
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:33 AM
Jan 13

The CEO, the COO, and their head of media are all women.
It's definitely a more genteel place than X, with far fewer bots and a-holes.

pandr32

(12,449 posts)
52. I wish for a replacement for Facebook as well.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:36 AM
Jan 13

I hate the site, but have family posts and am part of some local groups that post. I stay clear of as much crud as possible, but Facebook gets regularly hacked.
There needs to be a replacement soon.

madinmaryland

(65,262 posts)
56. California Peggy is on Bluesky. And I found Skittles, also, though I don't know if it
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 13

is DU’s Skittles.

TBF

(34,983 posts)
60. So, younger folks are on Red Book -
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:34 PM
Jan 13

it's just an app, not PC. My younger sister told me about it - when I mentioned it to my 21 year old daughter she knew all about it. It's a little tougher to navigate so far (for me).

Of course there will be alternatives. Zuck is an idiot - FB is run with advertiser $$ and they don't get hits if half of the people leave.

Also I love Bluesky - I'm on there the most now.

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