LA County and especially the Pacific Pallisadesis some of THE most expensive real estate in the Nation. The ENTIRE nation. There is 0.000000% chance it will be bought up for low income or medium income housing. There is 0.00000% chance it will be set aside for nature. Many are multi-multi-millionaires who have already stated they are going to rebuild, rebuild bigger.

These multi-millionaires will buy more expensive and better lawyers than the city to fight city land grabs. (Municipal lawyer are on the low end of experience and pay scale) They will Lawfare the city for as long as it takes. They're already well connected to city officials and will make backroom deals, as they've done in the past.

I'm super interested in how this will play out. But it won't be for the little guy. There are Billions of dollars of real estate on the line. Money will take care of money. As it always has. Count on it.


Edit - Just googled up CA costal property. Approx only 58% is private, the other 42% is public. That's actually a lot more public than I was expecting.

Those house shouldn't even be there

I’m so tired of billionaires. They have turned this country into an oligarchy, they have no respect for those who work themselves to death to stay 30 days ahead of homelessness. If people making in excess of 10mm a year paid their fair share, which would have far less impact in their quality of life-QOL than it does the majority of Americans. They got their man though, and now the money table gets leaned to the right even farther. Of course they’ll rebuild. Of course Malibu isn’t public property. That’s an illusion created by the ordinances that aren’t enforced. Billionaires destroy everything they touch these days and care not a whit about those whose money got them there. What really blows me away is that they are so stupid and arrogant they think we’ll just keep showing deference and allowing them to create a “New Rich Order” with Donny as their fake billionaire leader. Tax them at 70% like many other countries. Are the Stones and Sir Paul hurting? I believe they pay huge taxes to remain subjects.

MALIBU (CBS) — Residents of Malibu who don't want beach visitors parking in front of their high priced homes are reportedly taking matters into their own hands.

Locals in the exclusive community and highly trafficked tourist hot spot have been posting fake no parking signs along Pacific Coast Highway. The signs are illegal, but often look so legitimate they earn violators parking citations.

Yes?

The ocean is to the south of the highway in that area

As you drive North or South on 101, the sun can blind you at certain times of the day.

Strange, but true.

There are beach access points all along that waterfront area. Or there were, anyhow. Now, access points are moot until the rebuilding happens. Here's a map that shows all access points in Malibu, along with directions to get to the access paths. It's a PDF file at the link.

https://documents.coastal.ca.gov/assets/access/MalibuGuide2010.pdf

They're right there.

Now, I think that houses should not be built on the beach. That is allowed, though, but access up to the mean high tide line is guaranteed in California, with a few very specific exceptions. You can't go to beaches that are on military bases, or on beaches that are in front of nuclear power plants, for example.

There is an opportunity here, though, and I'm sure it will be looked at. Yes, the battle for the beaches has gone on for many decades. It will, no doubt, continue. I grew up in Southern California. As a teenager, I spent a good deal of time on Malibu beaches. Someone was always yelling at us to get off their beach. We just gave them the finger and kept walking. I mean, that's why we were there, wasn't it?

If we had just wanted to swim or sunbathe, there were hundreds of beaches available, all up and down the coast. People wanted to go to Malibu just because it was Malibu and you might see someone famous. It wasn't about the beach, itself.

Now, I live in Minnesota. Here, it's access to lakes. Wealthy people don't want you to have access. The state mandates access. I have done a lot of fishing on lakes around the Twin Cities. I can't count the number of times some moron in a big-ass house came out and yelled at me to "Get off my lake!" I'm a lot older now, but my reaction remains the same. I just give them the finger and keep right on fishing.

Yes.

Would build gates walls and fences across the public access points. Yeah, if they got reported they would take them down, very slowly. Then they would turn around and put them right back up. Then they got a free beach, until the government took some major action. If you're rich it's no worse than landscaping costs.

Some of the residents have resorted to posting fake signs of all kinds. Your link shows what are real signs and what are fake signs. The filthy-rich want it all, every nice thing, every bit of comfort, all the beauty and wealth out there.

But, so are other people's homes nearby that aren't nearly as luxurious. On the other hand, there are zero affordable houses in the Palisades. It's a rich person's city on the coast.

Coincidently, the re-runs on this topic have been running now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/doonesbury/strip/archive/2025/01/10

I don't care how old it is, I have to read Trudeau's work.

David Geffen in the crosshairs of Old Surfer Dude. haha
One of the things I thought so beautiful about the Golden State was the public beach law.

In 1960, I was 12 yeas old and just beginning to surf off beaches between Long Beach and our southern border. Battling with private and government municipalities for access to and conservation of beaches is ongoing. The military and other government entities lock the beaches away and rich folks, well, they behave like privileged rich folks.

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If Uncle Sam and the State of California are going to share the cost of rebuilding the burned properties, then they need to set the regulations for how the replacement structures will be built. They'll need to make sure there is ample parking and access to the public.

If the billionaires don't like it, tough shit. Let them move out to an island somewhere. The local zoning authorities have really messed it up good.

littering the beach. I often wondered what would happen in the event of a tsunami.

Well; at least it is aptly named now! Few years ago I visited a Private beach club right on Santa Monica Beach; It was for the wealrhy to enjoy the beach; no riff raff allowed.

to be part of the state highway system.

Legally, they are.

that's why I think it's better not to have private residential places there.

It kills eduction.
It kills proper medical care.
It kills nutrition.
It kills humans.
There is too great a divide between the "haves" and the "have-nots".
It shouldn't be this way, anywhere, in any country.
WTF.

How many wealthy democratic donors would that impact?

Trump mega-donor Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, owns about 7 properties on Carbon Beach. They're now all carbon.

https://therealdeal.com/magazine/la-july-2017/his-majesty-of-malibu/