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Coventina

(28,092 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 05:16 PM Jan 13

Richard Hays, 76, Dies; Theologian Who Had Stunning Change of Heart

For decades, conservative Christians opposed to homosexuality cited the Bible scholarship of Richard B. Hays, the dean of Duke Divinity School, who provided a full-on argument from Scripture against gay relationships.

“Homosexuality is one among many tragic signs that we are a broken people, alienated from God’s loving purpose,” Mr. Hays asserted in his book “The Moral Vision of the New Testament” (1996), which was read by a generation of seminary students.

Then, last year, Mr. Hays released a thunderclap into the evangelical world by recanting his earlier views and asserting that a deeper reading of the Bible revealed that same-sex relationships are not sinful after all.

Just as surprising as his about-face was his explanation for why: Mr. Hays changed his mind about same-sex relationships, he said, because God changed his mind.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/12/us/richard-hays-dead.html?

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Richard Hays, 76, Dies; Theologian Who Had Stunning Change of Heart (Original Post) Coventina Jan 13 OP
"Mr. Hays changed his mind about same-sex relationships, he said, because God changed his mind." hedda_foil Jan 13 #1
I assume he means that God changed Mr. Hays' mind. It's not clear who "his mind" refers to. TheRickles Jan 13 #6
He means that in the New Testament, God had changed his mind about homosexuals William Seger Jan 13 #8
Thanks. I think you're right. hedda_foil Jan 13 #10
Because God changed his mind. ItsjustMe Jan 13 #2
Too little too late TxGuitar Jan 13 #3
Nice to see so much support for homophobes TommyT139 Jan 13 #4
2024 - 1996 equals 28 years. maxsolomon Jan 13 #5
He was 48 when he published it in his book. Wiz Imp Jan 13 #7
I lead a very simple life wolfie001 Jan 13 #9

hedda_foil

(16,605 posts)
1. "Mr. Hays changed his mind about same-sex relationships, he said, because God changed his mind."
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jan 13

Riiiiight.

TheRickles

(2,559 posts)
6. I assume he means that God changed Mr. Hays' mind. It's not clear who "his mind" refers to.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:30 PM
Jan 13

But I don't think he meant that God changed His own divine mind, esp. after all these years!

William Seger

(11,264 posts)
8. He means that in the New Testament, God had changed his mind about homosexuals
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:52 PM
Jan 13
The New Testament “fully includes” L.G.B.T.Q. people, he wrote in what would be his last book, written as he knew that he was dying. Because same-sex marriage is blessed by God, he argued, the church should bless it as well.

TommyT139

(938 posts)
4. Nice to see so much support for homophobes
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 06:25 PM
Jan 13

I'm glad Hays had a change of heart -- and chose to publicize it when it would have been simpler not to.

It's a little surprising it took so long at Duke, which has been welcoming to queer theologians for years now.

Still, RIP.

maxsolomon

(35,664 posts)
5. 2024 - 1996 equals 28 years.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 06:30 PM
Jan 13

76 - 28 = 48 years old when he came up with his opinion on Teh Gaez.

Day late and a dollar short.

Wiz Imp

(3,289 posts)
7. He was 48 when he published it in his book.
Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:42 PM
Jan 13

I assume he felt that way his whole life up to that point. So 75 years being a homophobic bigot and 1 year actually following the teaching of Christ. Not a great track record.

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