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Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 01:52 PM Jan 19

Enough fuckin' doom and gloom threads. Give me one reason to have hope.

At the current pace I'll be dead before the week is over if I keep hanging around here!

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Enough fuckin' doom and gloom threads. Give me one reason to have hope. (Original Post) Blue_Tires Jan 19 OP
Snowstorms coming. Snow is pretty. Drum Jan 19 #1
Making snow angels and snowpeople is fun. So is sledding, skiing, snow forts and snowball fights. Clouds Passing Jan 19 #13
Agreed. Best to focus on what we can do that is positive. c-rational Jan 19 #2
The good news is the rapist can never be elected again! bif Jan 19 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 19 #15
Don't count on it. The SCOTUS is all set to find a loop-hole in the Constitution. Jit423 Jan 19 #42
True. Some members of the MAGA cult are saying that the 22nd Amendment totodeinhere Jan 19 #54
None of that is valid once you read the actual text of the amendment. Layzeebeaver Jan 21 #76
Elections will be pre-programmed. Wingus Dingus Jan 19 #46
Full Custom Garage is on YouTube now. Good stuff. marble falls Jan 19 #4
It's going to get warmer! Prairie_Seagull Jan 19 #5
Trump is 78 and he won't live forever. Ocelot II Jan 19 #6
I give him 2 years max. bif Jan 19 #14
AI Trump enid602 Jan 19 #37
Rec. MontanaMama Jan 19 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author bhcodem Jan 19 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 20 #70
It's college wrestling season gab13by13 Jan 19 #7
There are many forums here, surely something of interest to you. SheltieLover Jan 19 #8
It won't be long now JoseBalow Jan 19 #9
This Country survived a Civil War William769 Jan 19 #10
Gosh, you are a ray of sunshine! Yes, we will get Karma13612 Jan 19 #60
Well said! Blue_Roses Jan 21 #75
Make me an angel, that flies from Montgomery ... -John Prine- stopdiggin Jan 19 #11
Sung by Bonnie Raitt BOSSHOG Jan 19 #38
I'm not gonna let that MFer or trumpsters kill me or make my life miserable. Screw them. Silent Type Jan 19 #12
I live among Magats gab13by13 Jan 19 #19
He will just tell them that their lives are better and they will believe him. nt Jit423 Jan 19 #44
The end of Trump and MAGA begins tomorrow at noon. Yavin4 Jan 19 #16
Miracles can happen. usonian Jan 19 #17
I have it on good authority that the sun will rise again tomorrow morning. MineralMan Jan 19 #18
That's what all Orphan Annie Says BOSSHOG Jan 19 #39
The Con and his goons are still a bunch of incompetent fools Quiet Em Jan 19 #20
Sorry but read this PJMcK Jan 19 #21
Cheers, mate... Blue_Tires Jan 19 #57
Post removed Post removed Jan 19 #22
Hmm PJMcK Jan 19 #23
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. jalan48 Jan 19 #24
You asked, I'll answer ... at some risk of blowback. RandomNumbers Jan 19 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 20 #67
Four years goes by faster than you think FBaggins Jan 19 #26
If there's anything left worth taking back. Think. Again. Jan 19 #35
The past four positively flew. Truly. Alice B. Jan 20 #73
Half the country hates his guts XanaDUer2 Jan 19 #27
Soon enough it will be way more than 1/2. Even his new voters are starting to come out of their Trump Amnesia. emulatorloo Jan 19 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 20 #69
I honestly hope so Blue_Tires Jan 21 #74
Historically the doomsayers tend to be way too hyperbolic! nt Shermann Jan 19 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 20 #71
We don't have to worry about politics anymore! Think. Again. Jan 19 #29
trump 2.0 will be a shit show - BUT then it gives Dems the opportunity when people start whining about not getting their tulipsandroses Jan 19 #31
Trump will die (eventually). alarimer Jan 19 #32
Democrats are learning to fight dirty Aviation Pro Jan 19 #33
+1. That was the worst advice ever dalton99a Jan 19 #48
It was the worst. Post 2016 it is worse than useless. JanMichael Jan 19 #59
Protests and young people samplegirl Jan 19 #34
Canada's border is still open. nt yaesu Jan 19 #36
They are happy to host us as Karma13612 Jan 19 #61
The US's drmeow Jan 19 #40
My hope spot in avoiding Hitler's Nazi Germany here in the U.S. is that the people of Weimar Germany, who were raised in Aristus Jan 19 #45
I agree! Enough bs, democrats! sanduca Jan 19 #41
A.I. predicts the future. usonian Jan 19 #43
If you can't find any ibegurpard Jan 19 #49
Because other DUers might have different perspectives?? Blue_Tires Jan 19 #58
Mantra: Moving on doesn't mean rolling over! UTUSN Jan 19 #50
Good rye whiskey is a great reason to look forward to tomorrow. Groundhawg Jan 19 #51
Believe it or not, I don't drink 😅 Blue_Tires Jan 19 #65
He's 78 and had Covid malaise Jan 19 #52
He's 78 Dem4life1234 Jan 19 #53
You've noticed too? Knee-jerk doom is pretty tiresome. I see Trump's 'swing' voters already turning on him. emulatorloo Jan 19 #55
Trump is his own worst enemy. RoeVWade Jan 19 #62
If one looks hard enough, they might be able to score fentanyl. LeftInTX Jan 19 #63
New Mexico is a bright spot Comrade Citizen Jan 19 #64
Life is about more than politics iemanja Jan 19 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Wifes husband Jan 20 #68
We're alive malaise Jan 20 #72
A lot of the mushy middle voters who stayed home last year will Vogon_Glory Jan 21 #77
The Fascist Felon will fail. Dulcinea Jan 21 #78
What goes around comes back around. I thought I told you, Yea! GreenWave Jan 21 #79

Clouds Passing

(3,988 posts)
13. Making snow angels and snowpeople is fun. So is sledding, skiing, snow forts and snowball fights.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jan 19

Response to bif (Reply #3)

Jit423

(1,012 posts)
42. Don't count on it. The SCOTUS is all set to find a loop-hole in the Constitution.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jan 19

There is absolutely nothing to be hopeful for except the eradication of the Trump cult.

totodeinhere

(13,568 posts)
54. True. Some members of the MAGA cult are saying that the 22nd Amendment
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jan 19

was intended to limit presidential terms to two consecutive terms but it does not limit the total number of terms that a president may serve as long as they are not consecutive. I think that is quite a stretch but who knows what the MAGA majority on the SCOTUS would say.

Layzeebeaver

(1,911 posts)
76. None of that is valid once you read the actual text of the amendment.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jan 21

You cannot be elected twice.

Ocelot II

(123,518 posts)
6. Trump is 78 and he won't live forever.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jan 19

I realize that we've been expecting him to croak any day now, but of course he will eventually. I'd be surprised if he makes it until 2028.

bif

(24,787 posts)
14. I give him 2 years max.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:18 PM
Jan 19

By then he'll either be dead or the dementia will be so apparent, he'll have to be removed from office. They hid St. Fucking Ronnie's dementia pretty well. But these days, I think it'll be impossible to hide.

MontanaMama

(24,309 posts)
30. Rec.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jan 19

We WILL wake up to his obituary one of these days. AND, he’s a lame duck president as of this time tomorrow.

Response to MontanaMama (Reply #30)

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #6)

SheltieLover

(64,041 posts)
8. There are many forums here, surely something of interest to you.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 19

It helps to realize some things are simply beyond our control.

Yale is offering free Science of Well Being course:

https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being

There are 10 modules & electronic printed materials you can easily download immediately.

Find something to enjoy! Commune with nature.

William769

(57,225 posts)
10. This Country survived a Civil War
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:09 PM
Jan 19

We survived the Spanish flu, we survived the crash of 1929 then survived the Great Depression. We survived the horrific WWII, we survived the Cold War, we survived the Vietnam war that tore this Country apart, We survived the Reagan years (and as a Gay man that was a miracle), we survived 911 & the Bush years, we survive the pandemic against all odds with trump as President.

My friend, we will survive the next four years. Remember, it's always darkest before the dawn.

“You have nothing to fear but fear itself” is a quote from Franklin D. Roosevelt's first inaugural address on March 4, 1933. It means that people can accomplish great things if they face problems head-on instead of being held back by fear.


stopdiggin

(13,422 posts)
11. Make me an angel, that flies from Montgomery ... -John Prine-
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:10 PM
Jan 19

when I was a young girl
I had me a cowboy
weren't much to look at
just a free ramblin man

gab13by13

(26,864 posts)
19. I live among Magats
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jan 19

I am going to hound the hell out of them. TSF isn't going to do anything to make their lives better and I will be relentless.

Good way for me to vent. I am extremely adept at sarcasm.

Yavin4

(37,091 posts)
16. The end of Trump and MAGA begins tomorrow at noon.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jan 19

Yes, the next few years will be harsh, but if we hold together and keep our heads about us, we can build something entirely brand new from the epic failures to come. We can build something that will benefit us all, not just the few.

usonian

(16,341 posts)
17. Miracles can happen.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:22 PM
Jan 19
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19863580
Enjoy.

I would have wagered $100 that stinky would pay (other peoples' money) to get the midesst ceasefire postponed one day.

And I just added more keywords to my trash list.

Listen, people DO park in Tesla charging spots here. I suggested it sarcastically and the Musk-ovite snowflakes here had a shit fit.

Quiet Em

(1,614 posts)
20. The Con and his goons are still a bunch of incompetent fools
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jan 19

who will spend the next three months ripping each other to shreds over who that think is manly and who they think isn't.

Response to Blue_Tires (Original post)

RandomNumbers

(18,436 posts)
25. You asked, I'll answer ... at some risk of blowback.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jan 19

Not all of the people TSF has surrounded himself with are idiots.
Possibly not all of them are completely awful people.

Here's the hope: some of the things TSF's sick administration will do, will accidentally help some things in this country. Oh, I am struggling to think which ones, but for example, if he or someone else in that circle finds a few vertebrae and actually stands up to the tech bros on fixing the H-1B mess, it WILL help every American. (This was a huge missed opportunity for Dems, but of course TSF never would have admitted before the election that he would cave on this, and most people only respond to this as racist, which is not in Dems playbook for good reason. The reality is that fixing the policy to benefit everyone, isn't actually racist at all.)

That is ONE example. Another: While we are concerned about the economy for good reason, refer back to the first statement. Some of those non-idiots may prevent the worst, and actually make moves that temporarily improve the financial outlook for a lot of good people. Now, we know what trickle down really is, but it is a helluva lot better than a 1929-style complete collapse. Good people having their portfolios increased, will mean more from them to support social causes that benefit the less fortunate. It isn't how it should be, but it is a glimmer of hope.

Another reason I have, but YMMV: some right wing fundamentalist Xtians in my circle of relatives, have expressed their own consternation about TSF. The fact that even these folks recognize TSF as evil and bad for this country, gives me some hope that he WILL get blowback from at least SOME evangelicals who otherwise support Republican policies, when he gets too far afield from decency.

It ain't much, but it's what I've got and I think I might survive the next four years. And I do think - for now - the idea of anything happening to stop the next election from happening, is unsupported by facts or rational expectations. I could change my mind on that over the next couple years, I guess.

The bigger problem is what the hell the Democratic party is going to do, to pick up the pieces and get this ship righted four years from now.

Response to RandomNumbers (Reply #25)

XanaDUer2

(15,532 posts)
27. Half the country hates his guts
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jan 19

His and Republicans' will be so unpopular in the midterms they'll lose the house and senate.

emulatorloo

(45,728 posts)
56. Soon enough it will be way more than 1/2. Even his new voters are starting to come out of their Trump Amnesia.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jan 19

More of them are realizing he’s still incompetent, doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself and other rich people.

Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #27)

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
74. I honestly hope so
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 02:41 AM
Jan 21

I'm worried that too many Dems are utterly worn out by TFG fatigue and have resigned themselves into "laying back and trying to enjoy it" for the next four years like the proverbial rape victim 😔

Response to Shermann (Reply #28)

Think. Again.

(21,570 posts)
29. We don't have to worry about politics anymore!
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jan 19

We know the worst possible things will happen and there's nothing we can do to stop them!

Freedom!

tulipsandroses

(6,910 posts)
31. trump 2.0 will be a shit show - BUT then it gives Dems the opportunity when people start whining about not getting their
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jan 19

cheap eggs and rent is still high, they can't buy a home, etc etc. So you still have your egg problem in addition to all the chaos trump brings- Dems can use this to their advantage.

alarimer

(16,926 posts)
32. Trump will die (eventually).
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jan 19

You can always hope it's sooner rather than later. And then the GOP loses all the MAGA idiots because no one else has whatever peculiar charisma Trump does (which is not to say they aren't dangerous, especially if they are beholden to Thiel and Musk).

But that's my copium right now.

JanMichael

(25,493 posts)
59. It was the worst. Post 2016 it is worse than useless.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 04:56 PM
Jan 19

Maybe in the 70's, and 90's, for brief moments it was a good idea.

Karma13612

(4,733 posts)
61. They are happy to host us as
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jan 19

Visitors, for sure.

But qualifying to emigrate is a huge hurtle and many of us don’t qualify.

drmeow

(5,470 posts)
40. The US's
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jan 19

distributed system of government makes it much harder to turn us into Nazi Germany. There are things that the Constitution cedes to the states that not even the current Volksgerichtshof of a SCOTUS can change/take away. The governors of blue states, as well as countless organizations, have spent the past 2 months preparing for the worst that they can imagine (my guess is a LOT of stuff has gone on behind the scenes because why reveal your hand until you have to). While it is disturbing how many people in this country ideologically support fascism, I think there is already a LOT of BREXIT-like "I didn't think he'd actually win" regret and there are LOTS and LOTS of people who oppose and always have opposed him. There are a lot of us who remember history and are committed to preventing it from being repeated.

Aristus

(69,304 posts)
45. My hope spot in avoiding Hitler's Nazi Germany here in the U.S. is that the people of Weimar Germany, who were raised in
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:23 PM
Jan 19

late 19th and early 20th Centuries, grew up in an atmosphere of strict discipline and unquestioning obedience to civic authority.

The American people, OTOH, don't like being told what to do, and never have. Sure, there are going to be pathetic parades of waddling, 300lbs, gun-toting right-wing fuckweasels; but those odious losers do not a national movement make. And yes, they made a shambles of our capital city and Capitol Building on January 6th, 2021, but the arrests and the manhunts didn't wait until Joe Biden was sworn in two weeks later; they started while Trump was still President. Yes, it takes a lot to rouse the racist law enforcement establishment to do their sworn duty, but they did bring in thousands of the traitors, and got most of them sentenced to at least a little prison time.

I have some confidence that people who are repelled by Trump, but couldn't bring themselves to vote for Kamala Harris, might just hoist themselves off their couches and help us out this time.

sanduca

(94 posts)
41. I agree! Enough bs, democrats!
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jan 19

I totally agree with you. You have to stay hopeful people. Use a bad situation and turn it into a positive one.
I was heart broken on November 5th. The next day I had a different attitude. First of all, there is no way the felon won 2016 and 2024 fairly. I'm not getting into conspiracies accusations from anyone here because I have my beliefs. I strongly feel the truth will eventually come out.
Republicans are notorious for cheating, leave it at that.
On November 6th I said...ok magats, corporations, holy rollers, idiots, etc etc...have it your way. You deserve what the felon is going to put your ass through.
We tried warning you but you didn't listen. Find out the hard way when the orange liar does nothing for you other than take your rights away, kill democracy, isolate the USA from the allies, etc. BTW he will not lower the price of those damn eggs!
So, chill democrats...sit back and watch and enjoy the clown show.
Buy essentials only, don't help trumputin's economy.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
58. Because other DUers might have different perspectives??
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jan 19

Because I need help to focus my mind on literally anything else besides doing something really awful to others and then myself? This isn't complicated...

Dem4life1234

(2,517 posts)
53. He's 78
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jan 19

Grossly fat, unhealthy, hopefully his fast food diet kicks in.

Boring mascara boy VP doesn't have his appeal with maganuts.

Out of darkness...comes light.

emulatorloo

(45,728 posts)
55. You've noticed too? Knee-jerk doom is pretty tiresome. I see Trump's 'swing' voters already turning on him.
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jan 19

Things don’t bode well for Trump. In a few months all these voters are going to remember what a mentally declining fuck-up he is.



Comrade Citizen

(204 posts)
64. New Mexico is a bright spot
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jan 19

Showing us an optimistic future: A female majority in the legislature, more women of color elected to office than any other state, a wise Latina governor. Women's health is being protected, and important issues such as childcare are being addressed.

Response to iemanja (Reply #66)

Vogon_Glory

(9,721 posts)
77. A lot of the mushy middle voters who stayed home last year will
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 08:23 AM
Jan 21

get a lot of painful reminders as to why they shouldn’t have sat on their backsides.

Dulcinea

(7,974 posts)
78. The Fascist Felon will fail.
Tue Jan 21, 2025, 09:11 AM
Jan 21

He won't be able to bring down the cost of gas, groceries, or housing, plus he'll deport (or at least try to deport) the people who build houses & pick produce. Forget health care if you're not wealthy already. There will still be homeless people in the streets & not enough jobs, & this will cause unrest amongst the bumpkins & morons who voted for him thinking that he'd magically transport them to a world where they'd automatically get more than people they consider inferior, i.e. women, people of color, LGBTQ+ people, etc.

This presents a great opportunity for the Dems to take back both houses of Congress in the midterms. Dems need to emphasize what they can do to help everyone & give people a reason to vote for them, not just stopping TSF's agenda. I for one will be ready to work towards that.

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