I've personally had my fill of once trusted people and entities that are now trying to normalize unacceptable sht.

It might be different if it weren't for the well known and reported fact that Musk enables Putin, and supports or associates with neo Nazi sects in Europe, and S. Africa.

Afkng disgrace.

Rec

by matt browner hamlin

who is "Director of Strategy, Systems & Insights for Greenpeace International"
and reposted by keith olbermann

This is America.

That lady in the blue coat thinks he's waving at her.

Alot of these people look like they don't know what the hell he is doing.

And Elon Musk looks like he's high on mushrooms.

And he did twice to make the white supremacist, anti-semetic message clear.

What does the ADL stand for now?

wrong.

It was absolutely a Nazi salute, crisply performed —twice — with focus and power, almost like a karate technique.

Historian of fascism here. It was a Nazi salute and a very belligerent one too.

— Ruth Ben-Ghiat (@ruthbenghiat.bsky.social) 2025-01-20T22:16:32.814Z

People see what they want to see. As a person with more than a causal interest in all things third reich. I didn’t see a nazi salute. I’ve seen plenty of people make that same gesture over the years.

They're posting it all over with glee...while Elon has edited it out of his own reposts.

When Nazis think your Nazi salute is a Nazi salute, it doesn't matter what the ADL thinks. They're not relevant in this discussion.

too.

Can't believe someone here is buying into today's gaslighting...

Plays footsie with fascist parties around the world and then let's loose Two NAZI salutes on live TV is not relevant?

So which one of those Executive Orders are you going to focus on to get people to change their mind? It's going to be this way every day...

Literally the everything all the time strategy of governing. It leaves little to no time to focus on one thing to resist. And, as we know, there are no guardrails this time.

If NAZIS taking over our governance isn't motivating...

Honestly, can I just resign from this timeline?

probably felt similar when bush beat Kerry. Had a lot of emotions invested in that election.

So I’m not discouraging anything that you or anyone else thinks helps in midterms, 2028, etc. I sure don’t have answers, but I do have opinions.

How come certain very right wing people (who even defend Nazis) are immortal on DU?

But it's still a fucking Nazi salute.

The media is already busily gaslighting everyone who saw it and identified it for what it is. Don't help them.

the ADL did

https://jewishcurrents.org/top-executive-leaves-adl-over-ceos-praise-of-elon-musk

Jerry Nadler and others also spoke out against it.

that Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of ADL, is Shoveling.

there for a long time.

Was it THE Nazi salute? NO! But, IMO and many Jews, including my entire family, that shit was close enough! Sometimes, "imitation" is just as bad. The milquetoast response from the ADL was nauseating, but even more so, now THEY, the ADL, are the story and anti-Semites across the spectrum are cheering, even if for different reasons.

Comments which were echos of antisemitic tropes echo his really feelings in my opinion.

I also know now the bigger story is NOT his asshole "salute" but that the "Jew Group" didn't declare it so. Just look around. That is what is really pissing me off right now.

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out and Blast ADL for just Blatant Gaslighting /Purposeful Obtuseness.

Musk is full of contradictions. Inappropriate and awkward behavior and gestures can be associated with his being on the autism spectrum. He himself has talked about this.
I do not think he made a nazi salute. Look at WWII films from Nazi rallies. This was different.
He has demonstrated through is alliance with and support of Jews that he is not antisemitic.
Does he have gross right wing politics? Yes. Is his support of far right political parties in Europe disturbing? Yes. Is he an asshole? Absolutely.

Such nonsense!

He is a rich Nazi

Musk recently endorsed the German AfD party which put images of Anne Frank on pIzza boxes that said "oven fresh". He intended to make a Nazi salute.

Link to tweet

It’s the brown people they hate

Times have moved on and the Nazis have too.

What part of National Socialist or NAZI “requires” hating Jews. Now it’s more like we need to hate people who were not born here to parents who were not born here. It’s still genetics and geography.

Is it just because they don’t hate Jews then they’re OK now? Sorry I don’t buy it.

Critical thinking on this exposes the possibility that it is highly likely that all the sympathy Elon had demonstrated toward folks in Israel and Gaza is only there to obfuscate his actual beliefs.

It’s all bullshit. He’s just an evolved and different flavored NAZI wolf in billionaires clothing.

Have you actually been paying any attention to leon skum lately? Read Seth Abramson's rather frightening report on him?

displays of antisemitism.

I've reported scores, maybe hundreds, of brazenly antisemitic posts on X Twitter, that unequivocally violate the stated TOS, including Holocaust denial, and not gotten a single response.

He has literally allowed it to turn into a hive of extreme antisemitism. This is not necessarily incompatible with supporting Israel IMO.

I trust what he's allowed Twitter to turn into, more than any lip service he's engaged in.

At least based on what I've seen of that organization.

"All sides should give one another a bit of grace, perhaps even the benefit of the doubt?"

This is a growing nightmare as ally after ally rolls over and abandons us.

Never surrender, never normalize this, never accommodate, compromise or cooperate with this.

to support his personal agenda.

Can we encourage politicians to stop using “Just to be clear” and “Let’s be clear” to start off social media posts, it’s gotten ridiculous, just to be clear.

All Dem Senators voting to confirm Marco Rubio
ADL supporting fascism

This is barely day 1.
Watch they will all capitulate.

We have no ethical leader, except AOC and several of her associates in the House.

I’m making calls to my two Dem Senators and letting them know that I expect them to be on social media, doing press conferences and fighting every damn minute. Visible and Vocal.

Please call yours too!

If our elected representatives will not defend our democracy right NOW! I will never vote for them again.
I will support and vote for those who do, do right now.

proposals, etc., and never ever apologize or do anything to distance themselves from Nazis other than meekly gaslight, "me, Nazi? Must be your imagination?" Before we accept that these people are Nazis, or at least their moral descendants?

At a minimum, we shouldn't give musk any benefit of the doubt until he, himself, abjectly apologizes and convincingly distances himself from any association with Nazis.

*he* hasn't even denied it was a Nazi salute, afaik, so why should we twist ourselves in knots to normalize this crap?

More important, why are we even debating this? These people are Nazis, whether he Nazi saluted or not. Let's treat them as what we all know they are and fight them as the enemy of freedom, women, and minorities that we know they are.

This wasn’t ambiguous.

Might have to do with Musk being the world’s richest man. And they know he had ties to Jeffrey Epstein, like so many of the world’s sex-starved rich and powerful.