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"You can stop a helicopter very quickly" (Original Post) EarlG Jan 30 OP
Wow wow wow live love laugh Jan 30 #1
He's an aviation expert. He can identify the problem while the wreckage hasn't even been recovered. mobeau69 Jan 30 #2
Narcissists think they are smarter than everyone else. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #28
This one also thinks he can magically solve any problem William Seger Jan 30 #41
Very typical of narcissists. They think they are the smartest person in the room. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #45
"I alone can fix it." Different Drummer Jan 30 #77
Classic statement from a narcissistic personality disorder. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #80
Just wait. He'll demand the FAA give him the answer he wants tishaLA Jan 30 #58
Gas and groceries. Different Drummer Jan 30 #76
Saying to Sean Duffy, "not your fault". His only concern is Nixie Jan 30 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author usaf-vet Jan 30 #18
They are Catholics... littlemissmartypants Jan 30 #25
Oh well, that explains EVERYTHING, doesn't it? whathehell Jan 30 #64
Yet Cirsium Jan 30 #42
I'm sure he's done it moondust Jan 30 #4
Unfortunately for the young US ice skaters on board MissB Jan 30 #5
He already glided by "they're eating the dogs and cats" -he has to be called out for his ignorant statements and mocked andym Jan 30 #6
"They can go up or down." LMAO. Pundits don't have to say a word, just let the video roll. trump's blaming it on DEI Silent Type Jan 30 #7
It is pellucidly clear that he is not 'psychologically superior' malaise Jan 30 #8
Earl we need you. Please do not listen to Trump and try to apply critical thinking because a normal Botany Jan 30 #9
Who knew the Orange Pantload was an aviation expert? Sneederbunk Jan 30 #10
He's an expert at everything Blue_Roses Jan 30 #12
The Orange Pantload doesn't even know that. calimary Jan 30 #72
OMG, he is a genius!! sinkingfeeling Jan 30 #11
A stable one, at that. Different Drummer Jan 30 #82
I guess he's never heard of the Law of Inertia. bluescribbler Jan 30 #13
His older brother was a pilot pfitz59 Jan 30 #14
And his uncle father was a genius! Hope22 Jan 30 #17
His Incle worked True Blue American Jan 30 #35
His uncle was a professor at MIT. niyad Jan 30 #73
He is too old to handle the job. bronxiteforever Jan 30 #15
He's too stupid to handle the job. He was already stupid before he was old. Ocelot II Jan 30 #44
Can you dsc Jan 30 #16
Define quickly. Old Crank Jan 30 #36
Is it possible that the pilot could have had a sudden heart attack or stroke? CTyankee Jan 30 #53
Lots of things are posible Old Crank Jan 30 #55
Not likely - those are very rare occurrences Ocelot II Jan 30 #66
F*cking moron NotHardly Jan 30 #19
Holy mother of god mcar Jan 30 #20
I'm almost sorry I missed it MustLoveBeagles Jan 30 #21
Truly spoken like somebody who got all Fs in every math and physics class he "took" Aviation Pro Jan 30 #22
So the pilots of the helicopter decided to not stop or go up or down sarisataka Jan 30 #23
When those things first came out gab13by13 Jan 30 #30
I hate a GPS.My KIDS use them and we go everywhere. True Blue American Jan 30 #40
Hilarious ProfessorGAC Jan 30 #91
Next up, "The people on the bus go up and down, up and down". twodogsbarking Jan 30 #24
Open mouth, reveal lack of brain. Oh, how I wish we had his school transcripts, but he made sure highplainsdem Jan 30 #26
Fucking aghast. Prairie_Seagull Jan 30 #75
Gas and groceries. Different Drummer Jan 30 #86
For the love of God. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #27
Hopefully, they will go further than just wanting to do it. Different Drummer Jan 30 #87
There's a line. Irish_Dem Jan 30 #88
He's talking like a 5 year old, and not a really smart one. Dave Bowman Jan 30 #29
Didn't he stop a helicopter very quickly once? Takket Jan 30 #31
He's very smart you know. He had an uncle who taught at MIT. Vinca Jan 30 #32
Sure, they can stop on a dime! The laws of physics don't apply to helicopters! Ocelot II Jan 30 #33
Air brakes! FSogol Jan 30 #59
Didn't he once say there were planes in the revolutionary war? twodogsbarking Jan 30 #34
He also said stealth airplanes are literally invisble. Ocelot II Jan 30 #39
Yes, that kind of complicates the quarterly inventory count. nt TexasTowelie Jan 30 #47
"I know we parked it here somewhere..." *bonk* Ocelot II Jan 30 #49
Capt. Kiirk to crew after landing the Enterprise (cloaking device activated), niyad Jan 30 #74
He just can't help himself PatSeg Jan 30 #37
Exactly. Just like any normal president would do. But noooooooo, not for this stupid mutherfucker. mobeau69 Jan 30 #63
Ah yes PatSeg Jan 30 #70
Thanks for taking one for the team - TBF Jan 30 #38
When he speaks Cirsium Jan 30 #43
I no longer find anything he says funny orangecrush Jan 30 #46
snork. and the queen mary 2 can stop on a dime . ya rigggggght. AllaN01Bear Jan 30 #48
Well...of course you remember that HoosierDebbie Jan 30 #50
"They can FLY! Like the movie UP!" Lemons UK Jan 30 #51
Please tell me that is not a direct quote. niyad Jan 30 #81
Yeah, helicopters go down and then stop very suddenly. RockRaven Jan 30 #52
Had he served in Vietnam Danmel Jan 30 #54
Or maybe just ask that Senator in the wheelchair. Oh wait, she's injured & he won't be seen with her. And she's a woma... Hekate Jan 30 #61
Way back in 1970... rasputin1952 Jan 30 #56
He forgot "They can go left or right" KS Toronado Jan 30 #57
It's true. And nothing stops a helicopter more quickly than flying into an airplane. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 30 #60
Hey, he has helicopters, he said. Maybe he can have his pilot stop one of them allegorical oracle Jan 30 #62
F47's familiarity w/ helicopters includes... ultralite001 Jan 30 #65
I'm sure they have disc brakes and a steering wheel, right? WarGamer Jan 30 #67
I thank whatever gods may be that I am a nightowl living on the West Coast & slept through this Hekate Jan 30 #68
"...but eventually she is going to drop an F-bomb." Different Drummer Jan 30 #89
Exactly -- not in the slightest Hekate Jan 30 #92
Unfortunately, the pilot didn't speak English and couldn't read the "Up" or "Down" buttons. Ping Tung Jan 30 #69
Helicopters don't have to obey the laws of physics, bullwinkle428 Jan 30 #71
As much as it pains me Littlered Jan 30 #90
It was the context he said it in EarlG Jan 30 #93
As I can't really stand to hear him speak Littlered Jan 31 #94
They're beautiful and horrible machines... I like to watch... Blue Owl Jan 30 #78
Dunning Kruger Effect meet Narcissistic Personality Disorder yellow dahlia Jan 30 #79
The DSM is going to have to be completely updated, with an entire section niyad Jan 30 #83
Exactly! yellow dahlia Jan 30 #84
This has been: Donald shares everything he knows about ... helicopters! struggle4progress Jan 30 #85

mobeau69

(11,857 posts)
2. He's an aviation expert. He can identify the problem while the wreckage hasn't even been recovered.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:39 PM
Jan 30

God help us.

Irish_Dem

(65,512 posts)
28. Narcissists think they are smarter than everyone else.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 30

Only they know the correct answer for everything.

William Seger

(11,457 posts)
41. This one also thinks he can magically solve any problem
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jan 30

Maybe it's his "air accordion" that's supposed to work the trick.

Irish_Dem

(65,512 posts)
45. Very typical of narcissists. They think they are the smartest person in the room.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jan 30

Every one else they see as moronic dolts.

tishaLA

(14,559 posts)
58. Just wait. He'll demand the FAA give him the answer he wants
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:07 PM
Jan 30

and if they don't comply, they'll be unemployed

Response to Nixie (Reply #3)

littlemissmartypants

(26,791 posts)
25. They are Catholics...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jan 30

Who apparently don't believe in birth control. It's not the kid's problem... they didn't ask to be born to idiot parents.

whathehell

(30,101 posts)
64. Oh well, that explains EVERYTHING, doesn't it?
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jan 30

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2025, 04:39 PM - Edit history (1)



Sorry, but trashing a single religion for the purpose of somehow "explaining" the dumb decisions of a dumb (Presbyterian) president, is not just offensive, it's lame.
it does, in addition, suggest you know nothing of the other religions, i.e., Mormonism, Orthodox Judaism, that discourage the use of birth control.





moondust

(20,782 posts)
4. I'm sure he's done it
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:39 PM
Jan 30

many, many times. Many times. He's an expert on that sort of thing. So great.

andym

(5,895 posts)
6. He already glided by "they're eating the dogs and cats" -he has to be called out for his ignorant statements and mocked
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jan 30

publicly by people who can focus media attention. In this instance, he sounds like he has a young child's understanding.
SNL would be one-- but he has to become the butt of jokes.

Silent Type

(8,616 posts)
7. "They can go up or down." LMAO. Pundits don't have to say a word, just let the video roll. trump's blaming it on DEI
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:45 PM
Jan 30

or some such BS.

Botany

(73,519 posts)
9. Earl we need you. Please do not listen to Trump and try to apply critical thinking because a normal
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:51 PM
Jan 30

… human brain can not handle that kind of stress. You start thinking weird thoughts such as
where is the brake pedal on a helicopter? Or objects in motion stay in motion unless forces act
on that object counter to that object’s motion. Issac Newton’s 1st law already covered this subject.

bronxiteforever

(10,110 posts)
15. He is too old to handle the job.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 30

The press thought Biden was demented! This is way worse. Musk is the real President.

Time to parrot back GOP conspiracy theories.

dsc

(52,819 posts)
16. Can you
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jan 30

I am not an aviation expert but can you have a helicopter hover in place quickly? Also can the go straight up? I am pretty sure the answers to those questions are no, but again, flying is not my thing.

Old Crank

(5,357 posts)
36. Define quickly.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jan 30

They can generally change direction faster than most larger aircraft. But going from forward to stop is not like in a car. The only traction is from air. I don't know the scale of the maps showing the combined routes of both craft but it would seem to me that the chopper pilot should have seen the passenger plane with plenty of time to take some kind of corrective action.

Old Crank

(5,357 posts)
55. Lots of things are posible
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jan 30

But with no information other than flight path and collision everything right now is conjecture.

There will be an investigation. The FAA, used to take this stuff seriously hopefully still does.

Ocelot II

(123,524 posts)
66. Not likely - those are very rare occurrences
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jan 30

because airline pilots over 40 have to get a medical exam every 6 months (if younger, every year) to get their first-class medical certificate. The requirements for a sign-off are fairly stringent, and most heart conditions are disqualifying. A pilot could have an undiagnosed heart condition that causes sudden incapacitation but it's extremely rare.

Aviation Pro

(14,058 posts)
22. Truly spoken like somebody who got all Fs in every math and physics class he "took"
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jan 30

But passed with a gentleman's "C" after Daddy greased the wheels.

sarisataka

(21,594 posts)
23. So the pilots of the helicopter decided to not stop or go up or down
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jan 30

as they saw an approaching airplane? Instead they blindly followed ATC like idiots who follow GPS instructions to drive into the ocean?

gab13by13

(26,886 posts)
30. When those things first came out
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:06 PM
Jan 30

I was working in California, I got a rental car with a Never Lost GPS system.

Halfway across the Golden Gate bridge it was telling me to make a right turn.

True Blue American

(18,429 posts)
40. I hate a GPS.My KIDS use them and we go everywhere.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jan 30

I tell them how to go home, we do a pretty straight shoot. My built in GPS worked just fine.
The sun comes up in the east, goes down in the west. The 2 other points are north and south.

I have been able to bring people right where they want to go,even in a city I was never in.🫠🥴

ProfessorGAC

(71,839 posts)
91. Hilarious
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jan 30

The area where we live, although reasonably densely populated, (700k in the county) is notoriously bad for GPS.
When our company had visitors come to our big Chicago area manufacturing site, we would send an email with a map, directions and in bold underlined text "Do not rely on GPS".
Some ignored that and got so far off base, I would leave to go to a truck stop, the talk them in over the phone, until they got to where I was. Then they'd follow me back. Some of these folks ended up 8 miles to far south & east!
We contacted Garmin, Google, MapQuest & others but they did nothing.
Even nearer our house, there is an exit that only matters after a turn to the east. The other direction goes nowhere except a dead end.
The county put up a 4' by 3' sign saying "Ignore your GPS! This way leads to nothing."
On that first piece, I once had an ISO auditor get dropped off in the middle of nowhere by an Uber driver who got frustrated that he kept going in circles. On the phone, I told him to listen to my instructions nit the GPS, but he wouldn't.
I guessed reasonably well, and tracked her down about a mile from an industrial park with her briefcase & luggage on the ground next to her!

Takket

(22,913 posts)
31. Didn't he stop a helicopter very quickly once?
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jan 30
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/08/us/politics/trump-helicopter-willie-brown.html

Remember this nonsense? Lol

Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.

There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.

It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.

There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.

Ocelot II

(123,524 posts)
33. Sure, they can stop on a dime! The laws of physics don't apply to helicopters!
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:09 PM
Jan 30

An object in motion doesn't tend to remain in motion if it's a helicopter, right? Does he only ever watch cartoons when he's not watching Fox? Does he think a helicopter moves like when Wile E. Coyote runs off a cliff and then stops suddenly and falls straight down?

How do you get that much stupid into one big orange sausage skin?

niyad

(122,581 posts)
74. Capt. Kiirk to crew after landing the Enterprise (cloaking device activated),
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jan 30

in San Francisco, "Remember where we parked!".

PatSeg

(49,928 posts)
37. He just can't help himself
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jan 30

All he had to do was express sympathy for the victims and their families and say that an investigation was underway to determine the cause of the accident.

But no, Trump has to expound on every subject. The less he knows, the more he talks.

mobeau69

(11,857 posts)
63. Exactly. Just like any normal president would do. But noooooooo, not for this stupid mutherfucker.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:46 PM
Jan 30

He saw it as an opportunity to bash Biden, Obama and DEI and ended up proving again what a fool he is.

PatSeg

(49,928 posts)
70. Ah yes
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jan 30

That sums him up quite nicely. Trump is always looking for "opportunities" and ones that will benefit him politically, personally, or professionally. He never does anything because it is the right thing to do.

TBF

(35,049 posts)
38. Thanks for taking one for the team -
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:15 PM
Jan 30

my tv will remain off for the next four (or however many) years.

orangecrush

(23,538 posts)
46. I no longer find anything he says funny
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:26 PM
Jan 30

Even in the sense of ridicule.

Since I learned about the Vance Thiel Yarvin trifecta, I realized that the freezing of federal funds and attempt to eliminate all federal employees is not at all due to incompetence on their part.

It is their end goal.

We have never been in more danger than we are right now, Trump's attempts to distract with his buffoonery are not in the least amusing to me.

I would no more laugh at any one of them than I would laugh at a Cobra if I were locked in a room with it.

AllaN01Bear

(24,154 posts)
48. snork. and the queen mary 2 can stop on a dime . ya rigggggght.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jan 30
four more years of this felgercarb. i dare any one who is a scifi person to figure out that which show that came from

Danmel

(5,357 posts)
54. Had he served in Vietnam
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:53 PM
Jan 30

He might have had some personal experience flying helicopters. But Captain Bone Spurs has the unmitigated gall to critique now deceased service members who actually did serve. There simply is no bottom. He is devoid of decency and humanity.

Hekate

(96,590 posts)
61. Or maybe just ask that Senator in the wheelchair. Oh wait, she's injured & he won't be seen with her. And she's a woma...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jan 30

rasputin1952

(83,484 posts)
56. Way back in 1970...
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jan 30

The Huey we were in took an RPG to the tail boom.

We were in gyro on the way down, things happened fast. When we hit, I bounced out of the door and the rotors bent downward, nearly taking my head off. The main roto spun for, I'd say, 30 seconds but shit was happening so fast I can't be sure.

We all survived. But the respect I have for gravity increased exponentially.

If, as been alluded to, the use of Night Vision Devices (which I am sure have improved) would make light pollution from a major city something of a nightmare. Not only is your peripheral vision non-existent, but you become blind. Think of the idiot who shines a flashlight in your face on a dark night, your night vision is shot for twenty minutes.

As for T****, shut up, let the pro's do their job, and feel some remorse and empathy, then shut the fuck up.

People died in a terrible accident, have some respect.

allegorical oracle

(4,276 posts)
62. Hey, he has helicopters, he said. Maybe he can have his pilot stop one of them
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:40 PM
Jan 30

quickly. And soon.

Hekate

(96,590 posts)
68. I thank whatever gods may be that I am a nightowl living on the West Coast & slept through this
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jan 30

Thank you, EarlG, for setting up this thread so I never…

Welp, off to Costco this late-morning, and Nicolle Wallace will be recorded. She and her guests are sane, but eventually she is going to drop an F-bomb.

Different Drummer

(9,045 posts)
89. "...but eventually she is going to drop an F-bomb."
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:37 PM
Jan 30

It would be difficult to blame her if she did.

Ping Tung

(1,756 posts)
69. Unfortunately, the pilot didn't speak English and couldn't read the "Up" or "Down" buttons.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 04:19 PM
Jan 30

Not to mention that she was an illegal immigrant, was smuggling drugs, and had bomb in her parachute.

bullwinkle428

(20,649 posts)
71. Helicopters don't have to obey the laws of physics,
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jan 30

ever since they were given immunity by the Supreme Court.

Littlered

(151 posts)
90. As much as it pains me
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 08:10 PM
Jan 30

To say this. He isn’t wrong. Look up flare maneuver. I’ll just go ahead and link to a vid that explains it. I’ve seen them make some pretty amazing maneuvers over the years.


EarlG

(22,761 posts)
93. It was the context he said it in
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 11:59 PM
Jan 30

Trump didn't seem to understand why the helicopter couldn't get out of the way. He was talking as if the pilot saw the jet, had plenty of time to maneuver, and instead thought something along the lines of, "Gee, there's a plane, well, I guess I could stop, or go up or down or left or right...duh, guess I'll just crash into it."

He seemed utterly confused about this, talking as if there was no way the pilot couldn't have seen the jet coming, as if they practically crashed into the jet on purpose. That's why he was saying, "You can stop a helicopter very quickly. They can go up or down." He wasn't trying to make some kind of smart comment about helicopters. He was just trying to sound authoritative about something he only has a vague concept of, as usual. Like, if he was flying the helicopter, he would have gotten out of the way.

Anyway, apologies if it was not clear from the OP -- I posted this as I was watching his press conference, so the context was apparent in the moment.

(I will add that even if the pilot had seen the jet at the last second, the Black Hawk was probably doing at least 150mph. You obviously can't just stop on a dime at that speed. And a Black Hawk isn't a small helicopter like the one in the video.)

Littlered

(151 posts)
94. As I can't really stand to hear him speak
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 08:27 AM
Jan 31

Thanks for doing that btw, I just read the transcript. The context is always important. As compared to an air liner that model of helicopter is a gymnast.

niyad

(122,581 posts)
83. The DSM is going to have to be completely updated, with an entire section
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jan 30

for TRAITOR** and company.

struggle4progress

(121,814 posts)
85. This has been: Donald shares everything he knows about ... helicopters!
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jan 30

Up next: Donald shares everything he knows about ... other countries! Stay tuned!

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