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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"You can stop a helicopter very quickly"
"They can go up or down."
Quotes from Trump's presser right now.
live love laugh
(14,853 posts)mobeau69
(11,800 posts)God help us.
Irish_Dem
(62,489 posts)Only they know the correct answer for everything.
William Seger
(11,255 posts)Maybe it's his "air accordion" that's supposed to work the trick.
Irish_Dem
(62,489 posts)Every one else they see as moronic dolts.
Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)Irish_Dem
(62,489 posts)tishaLA
(14,445 posts)and if they don't comply, they'll be unemployed
Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)Nixie
(17,509 posts)the blame game.
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littlemissmartypants
(26,406 posts)Who apparently don't believe in birth control. It's not the kid's problem... they didn't ask to be born to idiot parents.
whathehell
(29,998 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2025, 03:39 PM - Edit history (1)
Sorry, but trashing a single religion for the purpose of somehow "explaining" the dumb decisions of a dumb (Presbyterian) president, is not just offensive, it's lame.
it does, in addition, suggest you know nothing of the other religions, i.e., Mormonism, Orthodox Judaism, that discourage the use of birth control.
It's not standard to have aircraft collide, yet.
He's working on it.
moondust
(20,661 posts)many, many times. Many times. He's an expert on that sort of thing. So great.
MissB
(16,184 posts)That just isnt true enough.
andym
(5,792 posts)publicly by people who can focus media attention. In this instance, he sounds like he has a young child's understanding.
SNL would be one-- but he has to become the butt of jokes.
Silent Type
(7,929 posts)or some such BS.
malaise
(280,276 posts)He is an effin Nazi
Botany
(72,981 posts)
human brain can not handle that kind of stress. You start thinking weird thoughts such as
where is the brake pedal on a helicopter? Or objects in motion stay in motion unless forces act
on that object counter to that objects motion. Issac Newtons 1st law already covered this subject.
Sneederbunk
(15,581 posts)Blue_Roses
(13,604 posts)didn't you know?!
calimary
(85,064 posts)sinkingfeeling
(53,706 posts)Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)bluescribbler
(2,279 posts)It's only one of Newton's laws of motion.
pfitz59
(11,231 posts)so that makes him an expert.
Hope22
(3,400 posts)Each of his cells vibrates to perfection!
True Blue American
(18,334 posts)At ITT, so we know Trump is smart.
niyad
(121,750 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,743 posts)The press thought Biden was demented! This is way worse. Musk is the real President.
Time to parrot back GOP conspiracy theories.
Ocelot II
(122,507 posts)I am not an aviation expert but can you have a helicopter hover in place quickly? Also can the go straight up? I am pretty sure the answers to those questions are no, but again, flying is not my thing.
Old Crank
(5,165 posts)They can generally change direction faster than most larger aircraft. But going from forward to stop is not like in a car. The only traction is from air. I don't know the scale of the maps showing the combined routes of both craft but it would seem to me that the chopper pilot should have seen the passenger plane with plenty of time to take some kind of corrective action.
CTyankee
(65,540 posts)Old Crank
(5,165 posts)But with no information other than flight path and collision everything right now is conjecture.
There will be an investigation. The FAA, used to take this stuff seriously hopefully still does.
Ocelot II
(122,507 posts)because airline pilots over 40 have to get a medical exam every 6 months (if younger, every year) to get their first-class medical certificate. The requirements for a sign-off are fairly stringent, and most heart conditions are disqualifying. A pilot could have an undiagnosed heart condition that causes sudden incapacitation but it's extremely rare.
NotHardly
(1,546 posts)mcar
(43,804 posts)We are so screwn.
MustLoveBeagles
(12,851 posts)I'd laugh if this wasn't so serious.
Aviation Pro
(13,779 posts)But passed with a gentleman's "C" after Daddy greased the wheels.
sarisataka
(21,449 posts)as they saw an approaching airplane? Instead they blindly followed ATC like idiots who follow GPS instructions to drive into the ocean?
gab13by13
(26,085 posts)I was working in California, I got a rental car with a Never Lost GPS system.
Halfway across the Golden Gate bridge it was telling me to make a right turn.
True Blue American
(18,334 posts)I tell them how to go home, we do a pretty straight shoot. My built in GPS worked just fine.
The sun comes up in the east, goes down in the west. The 2 other points are north and south.
I have been able to bring people right where they want to go,even in a city I was never in.🫠🥴
ProfessorGAC
(71,339 posts)The area where we live, although reasonably densely populated, (700k in the county) is notoriously bad for GPS.
When our company had visitors come to our big Chicago area manufacturing site, we would send an email with a map, directions and in bold underlined text "Do not rely on GPS".
Some ignored that and got so far off base, I would leave to go to a truck stop, the talk them in over the phone, until they got to where I was. Then they'd follow me back. Some of these folks ended up 8 miles to far south & east!
We contacted Garmin, Google, MapQuest & others but they did nothing.
Even nearer our house, there is an exit that only matters after a turn to the east. The other direction goes nowhere except a dead end.
The county put up a 4' by 3' sign saying "Ignore your GPS! This way leads to nothing."
On that first piece, I once had an ISO auditor get dropped off in the middle of nowhere by an Uber driver who got frustrated that he kept going in circles. On the phone, I told him to listen to my instructions nit the GPS, but he wouldn't.
I guessed reasonably well, and tracked her down about a mile from an industrial park with her briefcase & luggage on the ground next to her!
twodogsbarking
(12,481 posts)He is onesickmutherfucker.
highplainsdem
(53,513 posts)no one could get those.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/grab-that-record-how-trumps-high-school-transcript-was-hidden/2019/03/05/8815b7b8-3c61-11e9-aaae-69364b2ed137_story.html
But of course he had an uncle was was intelligent, so...
Prairie_Seagull
(3,918 posts)4 more years...of of, of this?
Deep breaths.
Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)Irish_Dem
(62,489 posts)The military families will want to tear him from limb to limb.
Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)Irish_Dem
(62,489 posts)Dave Bowman
(4,373 posts)Takket
(22,757 posts)Remember this nonsense? Lol
Former President Donald J. Trump told a jaw-dropping story on Thursday about nearly dying in a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician and ex-boyfriend of his rival, Vice President Kamala Harris.
There was only one problem with the story. Or maybe two. Or maybe three.
It wasnt the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopters passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.
Vinca
(51,487 posts)Ocelot II
(122,507 posts)An object in motion doesn't tend to remain in motion if it's a helicopter, right? Does he only ever watch cartoons when he's not watching Fox? Does he think a helicopter moves like when Wile E. Coyote runs off a cliff and then stops suddenly and falls straight down?
How do you get that much stupid into one big orange sausage skin?
FSogol
(47,081 posts)twodogsbarking
(12,481 posts)Ocelot II
(122,507 posts)TexasTowelie
(118,426 posts)Ocelot II
(122,507 posts)niyad
(121,750 posts)in San Francisco, "Remember where we parked!".
PatSeg
(49,821 posts)All he had to do was express sympathy for the victims and their families and say that an investigation was underway to determine the cause of the accident.
But no, Trump has to expound on every subject. The less he knows, the more he talks.
mobeau69
(11,800 posts)He saw it as an opportunity to bash Biden, Obama and DEI and ended up proving again what a fool he is.
That sums him up quite nicely. Trump is always looking for "opportunities" and ones that will benefit him politically, personally, or professionally. He never does anything because it is the right thing to do.
TBF
(34,976 posts)my tv will remain off for the next four (or however many) years.
Cirsium
(1,532 posts)Every time he speaks an angel's wings fall off.
orangecrush
(22,764 posts)Even in the sense of ridicule.
Since I learned about the Vance Thiel Yarvin trifecta, I realized that the freezing of federal funds and attempt to eliminate all federal employees is not at all due to incompetence on their part.
It is their end goal.
We have never been in more danger than we are right now, Trump's attempts to distract with his buffoonery are not in the least amusing to me.
I would no more laugh at any one of them than I would laugh at a Cobra if I were locked in a room with it.
AllaN01Bear
(23,792 posts)HoosierDebbie
(392 posts)He knows more about airflight collisions than anyone.
Lemons UK
(170 posts)JFC - I would laugh if he wasnt so GD pathetic.
niyad
(121,750 posts)RockRaven
(16,748 posts)Danmel
(5,319 posts)He might have had some personal experience flying helicopters. But Captain Bone Spurs has the unmitigated gall to critique now deceased service members who actually did serve. There simply is no bottom. He is devoid of decency and humanity.
Hekate
(95,916 posts)rasputin1952
(83,435 posts)The Huey we were in took an RPG to the tail boom.
We were in gyro on the way down, things happened fast. When we hit, I bounced out of the door and the rotors bent downward, nearly taking my head off. The main roto spun for, I'd say, 30 seconds but shit was happening so fast I can't be sure.
We all survived. But the respect I have for gravity increased exponentially.
If, as been alluded to, the use of Night Vision Devices (which I am sure have improved) would make light pollution from a major city something of a nightmare. Not only is your peripheral vision non-existent, but you become blind. Think of the idiot who shines a flashlight in your face on a dark night, your night vision is shot for twenty minutes.
As for T****, shut up, let the pro's do their job, and feel some remorse and empathy, then shut the fuck up.
People died in a terrible accident, have some respect.
KS Toronado
(20,254 posts)thesquanderer
(12,447 posts)allegorical oracle
(3,839 posts)quickly. And soon.
ultralite001
(1,299 posts)1. The Trump Files: Donalds Near-Death Experience (That He Invented)
https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/donald-trump-files-helicopter-crash/
2. 3 Trump execs, 2 pilots die as helicopter crashes in Parkway median
https://pressofatlanticcity.com/3-trump-execs-2-pilots-die-as-helicopter-crashes-in-parkway-median/article_4071dbca-24e3-11e4-8835-0019bb2963f4.html
3. 3 Trump Casino Executives Killed
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-11-fi-229-story.html
WarGamer
(16,116 posts)Hekate
(95,916 posts)Thank you, EarlG, for setting up this thread so I never
Welp, off to Costco this late-morning, and Nicolle Wallace will be recorded. She and her guests are sane, but eventually she is going to drop an F-bomb.
Different Drummer
(8,943 posts)It would be difficult to blame her if she did.
Hekate
(95,916 posts)Ping Tung
(1,589 posts)Not to mention that she was an illegal immigrant, was smuggling drugs, and had bomb in her parachute.
bullwinkle428
(20,647 posts)ever since they were given immunity by the Supreme Court.
Littlered
(101 posts)To say this. He isnt wrong. Look up flare maneuver. Ill just go ahead and link to a vid that explains it. Ive seen them make some pretty amazing maneuvers over the years.
EarlG
(22,708 posts)Trump didn't seem to understand why the helicopter couldn't get out of the way. He was talking as if the pilot saw the jet, had plenty of time to maneuver, and instead thought something along the lines of, "Gee, there's a plane, well, I guess I could stop, or go up or down or left or right...duh, guess I'll just crash into it."
He seemed utterly confused about this, talking as if there was no way the pilot couldn't have seen the jet coming, as if they practically crashed into the jet on purpose. That's why he was saying, "You can stop a helicopter very quickly. They can go up or down." He wasn't trying to make some kind of smart comment about helicopters. He was just trying to sound authoritative about something he only has a vague concept of, as usual. Like, if he was flying the helicopter, he would have gotten out of the way.
Anyway, apologies if it was not clear from the OP -- I posted this as I was watching his press conference, so the context was apparent in the moment.
(I will add that even if the pilot had seen the jet at the last second, the Black Hawk was probably doing at least 150mph. You obviously can't just stop on a dime at that speed. And a Black Hawk isn't a small helicopter like the one in the video.)
Littlered
(101 posts)Thanks for doing that btw, I just read the transcript. The context is always important. As compared to an air liner that model of helicopter is a gymnast.
Blue Owl
(55,128 posts)yellow dahlia
(925 posts)niyad
(121,750 posts)for TRAITOR** and company.
yellow dahlia
(925 posts)They demonstrate personality disorders that no one has ever seen before.
struggle4progress
(121,026 posts)Up next: Donald shares everything he knows about ... other countries! Stay tuned!