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Baitball Blogger

(48,941 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:48 PM Thursday

Pete Hegseth's comment: A mistake was made.

I guess that means that everyone was a white male.

I heard what the controller said. It sounds like he took the black hawk pilot's word that he saw the plane.

So, I'm guessing the mistake was with the black hawk pilot, maybe mistaking the lights.

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Pete Hegseth's comment: A mistake was made. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Thursday OP
Duh. Ocelot II Thursday #1
WAS a mistake made? RandomNumbers Thursday #10
Most likely, "mistake." Igel Thursday #21
Simpler explanation: helo pilot saw and avoided the wrong plane in a crowded airspace. Eugene Friday #31
Here's a guy who doesn't give a shit RainCaster Thursday #2
8,000,000? Wiz Imp Thursday #3
Yes, that's the size of the DoD RainCaster Thursday #12
No it's not. I'm not sure where you got that number from. Wiz Imp Thursday #15
Not According To This ProfessorGAC Thursday #16
You're right RainCaster Thursday #18
I wonder hoe sober he was.. They should have a breathalyzer hooked up to his microphone so he can't speak if drunk LiberalArkie Thursday #6
Exactly. And why isn't the press asking him constantly Nixie Thursday #22
No need for a breathalyzer; He promised to stop drinking if confirmed. NH Ethylene Friday #26
Of course there is no discussion about why Klarkashton Thursday #4
One explanation I heard this evening BOSSHOG Thursday #11
And use the general public as guinea pigs. Klarkashton Thursday #13
What Bosshog said was correct so your government is the issue. arthritisR_US Friday #30
Plus the speculation of the helo training with night googles. Nixie Thursday #23
It's utterly irresponsible and stupid. Klarkashton Friday #24
That's probably the 'mistake' that was made. NH Ethylene Friday #27
And our military effing assholes........ Lovie777 Thursday #5
The helo crew chief was a white male obamanut2012 Thursday #7
Let's hope not. Baitball Blogger Thursday #8
His next comment... C_U_L8R Thursday #9
Hovering at that height directly in the flight path BootinUp Thursday #14
THE MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE vapor2 Thursday #17
Amen! raccoon Friday #32
Wow Rebl2 Thursday #19
Mistakes? Military practice flights should steer clear of commercial airports. CoopersDad Thursday #20
You're the mistake, Pete. Initech Friday #25
The mistake was his parents having sex that night. Dave Bowman Friday #28
an obvious DUI hire RainCaster Friday #29

Ocelot II

(122,507 posts)
1. Duh.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:50 PM
Thursday

Of course a mistake was made or there wouldn't have been a collision, and now they're looking for a "DEI hire" to blame it on.

RandomNumbers

(18,376 posts)
10. WAS a mistake made?
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:09 PM
Thursday

From what I read, it was on the helicopter pilot to be aware of the airplane and avoid it.

Perhaps the chopper pilot did make a mistake. This was such a terrible accident, I hope for everyone's sake that it came down to a mistake, but that does not take away the suffering caused by the loss of these innocent passengers.

It did occur to me - and this is PURE speculation, BUT - was there any chance the helo pilot was suicidal? It's not like suicidal pilots have never taken innocents with them. (I REPEAT : this is SPECULATION. That is all. But it would lead to some other questions, obviously.)

Igel

(36,512 posts)
21. Most likely, "mistake."
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 10:03 PM
Thursday

"Suicide with a side of 60" requires a bit of evidence.

(And somewhere in the back of my brain a neuron stirred and said, "Let his surname not begin with Al-.&quot

Eugene

(62,985 posts)
31. Simpler explanation: helo pilot saw and avoided the wrong plane in a crowded airspace.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 01:19 AM
Friday

Something like that happened before.

There were two airliners on final approach, one right behind the other.
The CRJ's lights blending into background city lights may also
have been a factor. Other reports say the Army pilots were training
with night vision googles. A mistake was made, an apparently
easy one to make, as there was a near miss there a day earlier.

RainCaster

(11,891 posts)
2. Here's a guy who doesn't give a shit
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:50 PM
Thursday

He has his own concerns, and none of those relate to the 8,000,000 people who report to him.

RainCaster

(11,891 posts)
12. Yes, that's the size of the DoD
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:20 PM
Thursday

Quite a large jump in responsibility for a drunk who never managed a group larger than a platoon at any point in his life.

Wiz Imp

(3,191 posts)
15. No it's not. I'm not sure where you got that number from.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:30 PM
Thursday

As of November 2022, the department has over 1.4 million active-duty uniformed personnel in the five armed services. It also supervises over 778,000 National Guard and reservist personnel, and over 747,000 civilians, bringing the total to over 2.91 million employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense#:~:text=As%20of%20November%202022%2C%20the,to%20over%202.91%20million%20employees.

ProfessorGAC

(71,339 posts)
16. Not According To This
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:31 PM
Thursday
United States Department of Defense
Agency overview
Headquarters The Pentagon Arlington County, Virginia, U.S. 38°52′16″N 77°3′21″W
Employees 789,594 (civilian) 1,294,191 (active duty military) 761,601 (National Guard and reserve) 2,845,386 total (June 30, 2024)
Annual budget $842 billion FY2024

Maybe the 8 million includes all the private industry contractor employees, but direct DoD employment is around 35% of that.
Still huge, and doesn't change your main point about Hegseth.

RainCaster

(11,891 posts)
18. You're right
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 08:14 PM
Thursday

I'm not sure where I picked up that number, but it's off by quite a bit. Thanks for the update.

LiberalArkie

(17,141 posts)
6. I wonder hoe sober he was.. They should have a breathalyzer hooked up to his microphone so he can't speak if drunk
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:01 PM
Thursday

Maybe have one on the entrance to his office.

Nixie

(17,509 posts)
22. Exactly. And why isn't the press asking him constantly
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 10:56 PM
Thursday

about his sobriety. Just bringing it up constantly reminds people of his drinking problems. That’s what they do when they want to drag someone. It’s time for the same treatment.

Klarkashton

(2,710 posts)
4. Of course there is no discussion about why
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 06:56 PM
Thursday

Nighttime training flights are carried out in close proximity of the takeoff and landing field of a super busy commercial airport.
What sort of dimwit makes these kind decisions?

Honest to God with this shit.

BOSSHOG

(40,828 posts)
11. One explanation I heard this evening
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:10 PM
Thursday

Is that flyers have to train in the environment they will be operating. Just sharing what I heard. On CBS News.

Nixie

(17,509 posts)
23. Plus the speculation of the helo training with night googles.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 11:00 PM
Thursday

Why do that by the busiest airport. It’s so ridiculous.

Klarkashton

(2,710 posts)
24. It's utterly irresponsible and stupid.
Fri Jan 31, 2025, 12:53 AM
Friday

Rolling the fucking dice. Weaving in and out of commercial American aircraft.
It's a big stand tall coverup right now but it won't last. There are asshole cowboys that are going to burn for this shit.

obamanut2012

(28,107 posts)
7. The helo crew chief was a white male
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 07:01 PM
Thursday

Another pilot also was, no info on the third yet, some backchatter it's a woman.

CoopersDad

(3,014 posts)
20. Mistakes? Military practice flights should steer clear of commercial airports.
Thu Jan 30, 2025, 08:30 PM
Thursday

This is my primary takeaway from the tragedy.

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