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MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 06:48 AM Feb 2025

Is there no way to sue the government

for purging civil servants across agencies, and specifically for punishing FBI agents for following legal orders? Trump is dismantling law enforcement, destroying careers, removing safety for the American people and there's no lawsuit? No judge to put a pause on it?

Is ending democracy not a sueable offence?

The media complains (not enough, but there's Rachel, etc.) but only until they too are dismantled.
What are we waiting for? Unconsitutional acts are illegal. Will we put up with it until there isn't even a press to report it? Do we think when the agencies are taken over and media silenced that the social security checks will keep coming? That our taxes will be used for anything except Elon's exploits?

I try to imagine that most of us will keep doing what we do, but that is seeming less and less likely. And putting it back together seems more and more impossible. How about lawsuits about everything he is doing NOW?

Please tell me why that can't happen, or isn't happening. Or how it could.

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Is there no way to sue the government (Original Post) MadameButterfly Feb 2025 OP
In a democracy the voters are allowed to vote out democracy? Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #1
Been thinking the same. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #3
Democracy is too slow MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #5
The guardrails and political will are gone. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #7
2/3? Less than half voted for him MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #9
The facts are the facts. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #11
POSUS slithered in by extremely slim margin Humane human Feb 2025 #14
Since Musk is acting president but not the president Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #2
A lot of important people must be pondering similar questions /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #4
I hope so, but where are they? MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #6
It does not appear important people are doing anything right now. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #8
Let's look a little deeper bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #10
where is the panic and pushback Humane human Feb 2025 #12
Because a depressingly large slice of the population doesn't mind seeing the federal government scaled back Amishman Feb 2025 #13
They might have a different opinion when government MadameButterfly Feb 2025 #15

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
5. Democracy is too slow
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 06:54 AM
Feb 2025

There won't be anything left in 2 years. Including an election system. It's been 2 weeks and it's full scale demolition. Something has to be done now.

Irish_Dem

(79,899 posts)
7. The guardrails and political will are gone.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 07:00 AM
Feb 2025

The US congress, judiciary, media have made it clear they will not touch Trump.

2/3's of the American people are MAGAs or don't care what Trump does.

That leaves only 1/3 of Americans who may care, but they don't have the power to change anything.
There is no leadership or plan.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
9. 2/3? Less than half voted for him
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 07:08 AM
Feb 2025

and it was over eggs. They don't support this. A lot don't know what is going on yet though.
The purges are fairly new. Any lawsuits may be in progress. They can't come fast enough.
We're in the minority in congress so there's only so much they can do.

Irish_Dem

(79,899 posts)
11. The facts are the facts.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 07:15 AM
Feb 2025

I said two thirds either voted for Trump or didn't care enough to vote.
This means the majority of Americans like Trump or don't care what he does.

Humane human

(11 posts)
14. POSUS slithered in by extremely slim margin
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 09:02 AM
Feb 2025

75,019,230 Kamala Harris 77,303,568 POSUS
48.3% K H 49.9% the other one
difference 1.5 %

Blue Full Moon

(3,178 posts)
2. Since Musk is acting president but not the president
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 06:51 AM
Feb 2025

Every single person in this country should sue him.

Humane human

(11 posts)
12. where is the panic and pushback
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 07:16 AM
Feb 2025

Aren't people listening and seeing what is happening before their very eyes? I am horrified. Everything I feared about a second term of this tyrant is happening. He is dismantling our Democracy! We, the People, MUST come together and stop this madness. He is actually giving the country's checkbook (our taxpayer money) to the E-LOON. He is simply a revenge seeking toddler with severe mental issues and is NOT qualified to lead our country. None of us will be safe while he occupies the office where many great men of integrity once sat.

Amishman

(5,917 posts)
13. Because a depressingly large slice of the population doesn't mind seeing the federal government scaled back
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 07:49 AM
Feb 2025

Overall opinion of government is unfavorable, and has been for a long time.

Polling of the public's trust in government has been at historic lows for over a decade. It was 60+ percent until about 1970, and declined to move in the 30-40% range in the 70's and 80's. It dropped below 30% in the mid 90's, rebounding a bit in the early 200's. It's been under 30% since Bush the Deuce.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/24/public-trust-in-government-1958-2024/

Most people people don't like or trust the federal government, and schadenfreude is keeping the outrage in check.

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