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Jen Rubin nails it! (Original Post) Buttoneer Tuesday OP
Trump told RFKjr and Musk to "go have fun." Irish_Dem Tuesday #1
Yeah, he does MLWR Tuesday #11
Yes we have a number of examples of Trump's sadism. Irish_Dem Tuesday #14
Sorry to pick nits dpibel Tuesday #17
I saw the video myself. Irish_Dem Tuesday #19
Did not say you are dpibel Tuesday #23
I agree with you canetoad Tuesday #24
Jan. 6 witnesses: Trump watched TV as rioters stormed Capitol Joinfortmill Wednesday #36
Not the issue dpibel Wednesday #40
There is video of him watching.I remember seeing it, but it doesn't really matter. We know what he did. Joinfortmill Wednesday #41
re: "We saw the video of Trump watching J6 on a TV screen. He was grinning from ear to ear" thesquanderer Tuesday #20
For god's sake. Irish_Dem Tuesday #21
Maybe someone else here can confirm. But I didn't call you a liar... thesquanderer Tuesday #25
That's why it is considered a Mandela effect ReadItnWeep Wednesday #38
Not what was said ReadItnWeep Wednesday #39
The video you are referencing was in a tent-like structure before his speech. Gore1FL Tuesday #27
Yup. You always identify the psychology of the sociopath. yellow dahlia Tuesday #33
#FeebleFigurehead now going viral BoRaGard Tuesday #2
S African, richest man, has taken over US is a lot of power. His kids missing with our system. LizBeth Tuesday #3
Anyone else here embarrassed that our country was bought so cheap? Midnight Writer Tuesday #4
Our country died on 12/12/00 GoreWon2000 Tuesday #5
That death spiral began with Saint Ronald RainCaster Tuesday #10
Before the election Old Crank Tuesday #6
She always does. Yep. Felon Musk. Arrest and seize his assets. There. Health care solved. Evolve Dammit Tuesday #7
agreed RJ-MacReady Tuesday #8
Deport him to Gitmo wryter2000 Tuesday #12
after assets seized Evolve Dammit Tuesday #15
I like the way you think wryter2000 Tuesday #28
The Orange one remains what he's always been, the dancing bear, the diversion. Magoo48 Tuesday #9
Yep. dalton99a Tuesday #13
Musk is the hitman for the heritage foundation. StarryNite Tuesday #16
"Feeble Figurehead" right. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #18
Musk isn't running anything either, just throwing things out like a petulant toddler. travelingthrulife Tuesday #22
The richest nazi on earth is destroying our government from within, nt yaesu Tuesday #26
Trump warned about the "enemy within." The Wizard Tuesday #30
I disagree. I think he knows what's going on. Tommy Carcetti Tuesday #29
Elon got him the job BigMin28 Tuesday #31
K and motherFUCKING R Blue Owl Tuesday #32
The oranges asshole just wants applause, cut some ribbons and sign bills Javaman Tuesday #34
Trump is bought and paid for. Joinfortmill Wednesday #35
True or not, this is the message we need to keep repeating. Cowpunk Wednesday #37

Irish_Dem

(63,312 posts)
1. Trump told RFKjr and Musk to "go have fun."
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 11:08 AM
Tuesday

It is Trump's way of getting revenge on the American people and being cruel.
Trump gets off on it.

Irish_Dem

(63,312 posts)
14. Yes we have a number of examples of Trump's sadism.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:19 PM
Tuesday

We can see that he carefully plans his rapes for maximum humiliation of his victim
and also to make them feel helpless.

He comes across as a nice charming famous guy, women assume he would not rape them
in a public place like he did with EJ Carroll. Trump plans it in advance, cooks up a story
to manipulate her into a secluded location, and tricks her into a vulnerable situation.

Stormy Daniels reports the same experience, she was told a false story to get her into Trump's
hotel room, and then trapped in his bedroom with guards outside the door. She is a very smart
and wise in the ways of the world and was blindsided by Trump.

Then of course they feel helpless, no one will believe their stories, or that someone like Trump
has to rape women for sex.

We also see his sadism during J6. We saw the video of Trump watching J6 on a TV screen.
He was grinning from ear to ear as his flying monkeys attacked and injured police officers.
He enjoyed the hell out of it.

Trump commits many financial crimes as a way to make money, most financial crimes are just business.
Nothing personal. Trump makes it all personal as a way to make money and hurt people.

dpibel

(3,501 posts)
17. Sorry to pick nits
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:39 PM
Tuesday

This is the second reference I've read on DU recently about video of Trump watching the J6 insurrection.

I believe this is a Mandela Effect item.

See, e.g.,

On January 6, 2021, then-President Donald Trump's official White House photographer wanted to do her job. As a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol, the photographer wanted to document the sitting president because, as she put it, it was "very important" for history.

But the instruction to the official White House photographer, Shealah Craighead, was clear: "No photographs."


I just don't think this video exists.

dpibel

(3,501 posts)
23. Did not say you are
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:58 PM
Tuesday

I did not call you a liar. I do not believe you are, which is why I referenced the Mandela Effect.

I'm not going to belabor this beyond the following:

Here is a news story from the time of the J6 Committee Hearings. It is surpassing strange to me that, if there was video of Trump in the dining room watching the insurrection, the J6 Committee would show video of people describing what Trump was doing, rather than just showing the video of the thing itself.

canetoad

(18,543 posts)
24. I agree with you
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 02:04 PM
Tuesday

There are numerous videos of people describing what he did that day but none at all of trump himself watching tv in the White House.

Joinfortmill

(17,130 posts)
36. Jan. 6 witnesses: Trump watched TV as rioters stormed Capitol
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 06:00 AM
Wednesday


My words: Listen to the hearing. There were eye witnesses. Also, many previous reports that the TV was always on and always on Fox News. There are likely many photos that verify this for those that want to check it out. Also, I believe there is testimony/reporting that his own daughter tried to get him away from the t.v. and make a statement. That should be enough evidence. Whether there is a video/photos or not doesn't change what happened.

'The Jan 6. committee described Trump's failure to act as rioters stormed the Capitol, instead watching the attack unfold on Fox News. '

And this: 'Multiple witnesses told the committee of attempts to persuade Trump to intervene and try to stop the violence, which he refused to do, instead watching the attack as it unfolded on television.

'https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-visibly-upset-as-she-tried-to-get-father-to-stop-capitol-riot-2022-12

dpibel

(3,501 posts)
40. Not the issue
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:10 AM
Wednesday

If you'll look at #23, I linked to the Business Insider coverage of the very testimony you're talking about.

The question is not what Trump did.

It is whether "we saw" video of it.

Joinfortmill

(17,130 posts)
41. There is video of him watching.I remember seeing it, but it doesn't really matter. We know what he did.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 10:24 AM
Wednesday

I wouldn't pick this mountain to make a stand on.

thesquanderer

(12,466 posts)
20. re: "We saw the video of Trump watching J6 on a TV screen. He was grinning from ear to ear"
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:51 PM
Tuesday

I never saw such a video, and couldn't find it now in a search. Are you sure? Do you have a link?

There was certainly reporting of that (e.g. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/donald-trump-stephanie-grisham-january-6 ) but no video AFAIK.

Irish_Dem

(63,312 posts)
21. For god's sake.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:53 PM
Tuesday

I saw the video myself.

Calling people liars is not a way to win an argument.

Fascist governments scrub information all the time.

thesquanderer

(12,466 posts)
25. Maybe someone else here can confirm. But I didn't call you a liar...
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:00 PM
Tuesday

...nor was I trying to win an argument. But I thought you might have misremembered. (Or maybe seen some kind of dramatization somewhere?) I figured I'd have seen a video if there was one, because (like most here, probably) I was following such things pretty closely. It's nothing personal, I just don't accept things as fact simply because someone on the internet says it. And if wrong, it doesn't mean people are lying or intentionally misleading, sometimes people just make mistakes.

re: "Fascist governments scrub information all the time." -- I don't think we're quite yet where, not only would the video be gone, but also all references to it. Google seems to show no reporting of even the existence of such a video.

Also the DNC's (pre-fascism!) convention video (below) mentions him watching TV through through the events of Jan 6, but it is one of the few things in the video that they don't actually have any video for. It would seem to be an odd omission if there were existing video at the time, which wasn't all that long ago.

But I'm still open to evidence to the contrary.







ReadItnWeep

(56 posts)
38. That's why it is considered a Mandela effect
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:50 AM
Wednesday

Please understand that you are not being called a liar or even anything near that.

The Mandela effect describes the phenomenon of an public event being recalled incorrectly by a vast majority of folks who experienced it in real time.
No malfeasance, not even ignorance or forgetfulness.

What many of us saw on video was Trump , I believe alongside Don Jr and his girlfriend, smiling and enjoying themselves backstage at his rally. It was them watching the other speakers before he went on stage Jan 6.

As for during the hours the Capitol was under attack, he was inside the Whitehouse/ residence. That would be when various people were pleading with him to "call it off" , but instead (we learned through the January 6 committee hearings) he only watched it happen.

ReadItnWeep

(56 posts)
39. Not what was said
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:56 AM
Wednesday

Please understand that you are not being called a liar or even anything near that.

The Mandela effect describes the phenomenon of an public event being recalled incorrectly by a vast majority of folks who experienced it in real time.
No malfeasance, not even ignorance or forgetfulness.

What many of us saw on video was Trump , I believe alongside Don Jr and his girlfriend, smiling and enjoying themselves backstage at his rally. It was them watching the other speakers before he went on stage Jan 6.

As for during the hours the Capitol was under attack, he was inside the Whitehouse/ residence. That would be when various people were pleading with him to "call it off" , but instead (we learned through the January 6 committee hearings) he only watched it happen.

Gore1FL

(22,140 posts)
27. The video you are referencing was in a tent-like structure before his speech.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 03:23 PM
Tuesday

They did not watch the insurrection from that location

Here is the video:

LizBeth

(11,031 posts)
3. S African, richest man, has taken over US is a lot of power. His kids missing with our system.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 11:36 AM
Tuesday

Any US born or all other nationalities in our stuff?

Midnight Writer

(23,402 posts)
4. Anyone else here embarrassed that our country was bought so cheap?
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:13 PM
Tuesday

$250 million is like pocket change to a billionaire.

Total wealth in the US is roughly, last I saw, about $120 trillion.

The Art Of The Deal in play, I guess.

GoreWon2000

(1,188 posts)
5. Our country died on 12/12/00
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:18 PM
Tuesday

when 5 unelected repug SCOTUS judges stopped the legal Florida vote count by rubberstamping the Bush brothers all out assault on American democracy in Florida. Our country has been in a downward spiral ever since.

RainCaster

(12,075 posts)
10. That death spiral began with Saint Ronald
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 01:01 PM
Tuesday

Reagan and his embrace of the Religious Right began this whole downward path of the GOP.

Old Crank

(5,198 posts)
6. Before the election
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 12:19 PM
Tuesday

Musk was reportedly worth about 400 billion.
300 million spent is about 7 cents of every hundred he had.
Now he is worth even more.

Pocket change indeed.

The Wizard

(13,045 posts)
30. Trump warned about the "enemy within."
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 05:29 PM
Tuesday

He's the Master of projection. Did he get a degree from Goebbels University?

Tommy Carcetti

(43,702 posts)
29. I disagree. I think he knows what's going on.
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 04:51 PM
Tuesday

He just doesn't care.

As long as he's paid proper adulation as the State Sovereign, and entitled to all power and immunities that he thinks he is afforded (with none of the limitations or responsibilities), he'll gladly see to it that others do their dirty work under him.

Javaman

(63,320 posts)
34. The oranges asshole just wants applause, cut some ribbons and sign bills
Tue Feb 4, 2025, 10:56 PM
Tuesday

All so he can preen on tv.

Other than that he just runs interference for the mad monk. As the mad monk dismantles our government

Cowpunk

(815 posts)
37. True or not, this is the message we need to keep repeating.
Wed Feb 5, 2025, 09:32 AM
Wednesday

It will drive The Beast crazy. Well, even more crazy, and drive a wedge between The Beast and Musk.

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