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(63,312 posts)It is Trump's way of getting revenge on the American people and being cruel.
Trump gets off on it.
He's a sadist. Like his German idol.
Irish_Dem
(63,312 posts)We can see that he carefully plans his rapes for maximum humiliation of his victim
and also to make them feel helpless.
He comes across as a nice charming famous guy, women assume he would not rape them
in a public place like he did with EJ Carroll. Trump plans it in advance, cooks up a story
to manipulate her into a secluded location, and tricks her into a vulnerable situation.
Stormy Daniels reports the same experience, she was told a false story to get her into Trump's
hotel room, and then trapped in his bedroom with guards outside the door. She is a very smart
and wise in the ways of the world and was blindsided by Trump.
Then of course they feel helpless, no one will believe their stories, or that someone like Trump
has to rape women for sex.
We also see his sadism during J6. We saw the video of Trump watching J6 on a TV screen.
He was grinning from ear to ear as his flying monkeys attacked and injured police officers.
He enjoyed the hell out of it.
Trump commits many financial crimes as a way to make money, most financial crimes are just business.
Nothing personal. Trump makes it all personal as a way to make money and hurt people.
dpibel
(3,501 posts)This is the second reference I've read on DU recently about video of Trump watching the J6 insurrection.
I believe this is a Mandela Effect item.
See, e.g.,
But the instruction to the official White House photographer, Shealah Craighead, was clear: "No photographs."
I just don't think this video exists.
Irish_Dem
(63,312 posts)And I am not a liar.
dpibel
(3,501 posts)I did not call you a liar. I do not believe you are, which is why I referenced the Mandela Effect.
I'm not going to belabor this beyond the following:
Here is a news story from the time of the J6 Committee Hearings. It is surpassing strange to me that, if there was video of Trump in the dining room watching the insurrection, the J6 Committee would show video of people describing what Trump was doing, rather than just showing the video of the thing itself.
canetoad
(18,543 posts)There are numerous videos of people describing what he did that day but none at all of trump himself watching tv in the White House.
Joinfortmill
(17,130 posts)My words: Listen to the hearing. There were eye witnesses. Also, many previous reports that the TV was always on and always on Fox News. There are likely many photos that verify this for those that want to check it out. Also, I believe there is testimony/reporting that his own daughter tried to get him away from the t.v. and make a statement. That should be enough evidence. Whether there is a video/photos or not doesn't change what happened.
'The Jan 6. committee described Trump's failure to act as rioters stormed the Capitol, instead watching the attack unfold on Fox News. '
And this: 'Multiple witnesses told the committee of attempts to persuade Trump to intervene and try to stop the violence, which he refused to do, instead watching the attack as it unfolded on television.
'https://www.businessinsider.com/ivanka-trump-visibly-upset-as-she-tried-to-get-father-to-stop-capitol-riot-2022-12
dpibel
(3,501 posts)If you'll look at #23, I linked to the Business Insider coverage of the very testimony you're talking about.
The question is not what Trump did.
It is whether "we saw" video of it.
Joinfortmill
(17,130 posts)I wouldn't pick this mountain to make a stand on.
thesquanderer
(12,466 posts)I never saw such a video, and couldn't find it now in a search. Are you sure? Do you have a link?
There was certainly reporting of that (e.g. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/donald-trump-stephanie-grisham-january-6 ) but no video AFAIK.
Irish_Dem
(63,312 posts)I saw the video myself.
Calling people liars is not a way to win an argument.
Fascist governments scrub information all the time.
thesquanderer
(12,466 posts)...nor was I trying to win an argument. But I thought you might have misremembered. (Or maybe seen some kind of dramatization somewhere?) I figured I'd have seen a video if there was one, because (like most here, probably) I was following such things pretty closely. It's nothing personal, I just don't accept things as fact simply because someone on the internet says it. And if wrong, it doesn't mean people are lying or intentionally misleading, sometimes people just make mistakes.
re: "Fascist governments scrub information all the time." -- I don't think we're quite yet where, not only would the video be gone, but also all references to it. Google seems to show no reporting of even the existence of such a video.
Also the DNC's (pre-fascism!) convention video (below) mentions him watching TV through through the events of Jan 6, but it is one of the few things in the video that they don't actually have any video for. It would seem to be an odd omission if there were existing video at the time, which wasn't all that long ago.
But I'm still open to evidence to the contrary.
ReadItnWeep
(56 posts)Please understand that you are not being called a liar or even anything near that.
The Mandela effect describes the phenomenon of an public event being recalled incorrectly by a vast majority of folks who experienced it in real time.
No malfeasance, not even ignorance or forgetfulness.
What many of us saw on video was Trump , I believe alongside Don Jr and his girlfriend, smiling and enjoying themselves backstage at his rally. It was them watching the other speakers before he went on stage Jan 6.
As for during the hours the Capitol was under attack, he was inside the Whitehouse/ residence. That would be when various people were pleading with him to "call it off" , but instead (we learned through the January 6 committee hearings) he only watched it happen.
ReadItnWeep
(56 posts)Please understand that you are not being called a liar or even anything near that.
The Mandela effect describes the phenomenon of an public event being recalled incorrectly by a vast majority of folks who experienced it in real time.
No malfeasance, not even ignorance or forgetfulness.
What many of us saw on video was Trump , I believe alongside Don Jr and his girlfriend, smiling and enjoying themselves backstage at his rally. It was them watching the other speakers before he went on stage Jan 6.
As for during the hours the Capitol was under attack, he was inside the Whitehouse/ residence. That would be when various people were pleading with him to "call it off" , but instead (we learned through the January 6 committee hearings) he only watched it happen.
Gore1FL
(22,140 posts)They did not watch the insurrection from that location
Here is the video:
yellow dahlia
(1,146 posts)BoRaGard
(3,890 posts)along with #DinkyDonny
LizBeth
(11,031 posts)Any US born or all other nationalities in our stuff?
Midnight Writer
(23,402 posts)$250 million is like pocket change to a billionaire.
Total wealth in the US is roughly, last I saw, about $120 trillion.
The Art Of The Deal in play, I guess.
GoreWon2000
(1,188 posts)when 5 unelected repug SCOTUS judges stopped the legal Florida vote count by rubberstamping the Bush brothers all out assault on American democracy in Florida. Our country has been in a downward spiral ever since.
RainCaster
(12,075 posts)Reagan and his embrace of the Religious Right began this whole downward path of the GOP.
Old Crank
(5,198 posts)Musk was reportedly worth about 400 billion.
300 million spent is about 7 cents of every hundred he had.
Now he is worth even more.
Pocket change indeed.
Evolve Dammit
(19,800 posts)RJ-MacReady
(80 posts)Though I am sure some would say we can't do that because there is no "mechanism" for it.
wryter2000
(47,671 posts)Or South Africa
Evolve Dammit
(19,800 posts)wryter2000
(47,671 posts)Magoo48
(5,838 posts)dalton99a
(86,122 posts)StarryNite
(11,227 posts)Kid Berwyn
(19,036 posts)travelingthrulife
(1,466 posts)yaesu
(8,523 posts)The Wizard
(13,045 posts)He's the Master of projection. Did he get a degree from Goebbels University?
Tommy Carcetti
(43,702 posts)He just doesn't care.
As long as he's paid proper adulation as the State Sovereign, and entitled to all power and immunities that he thinks he is afforded (with none of the limitations or responsibilities), he'll gladly see to it that others do their dirty work under him.
BigMin28
(1,572 posts)and kept him out of jail or more trouble. He can golf, and let Leon be president.
Blue Owl
(55,205 posts)Javaman
(63,320 posts)All so he can preen on tv.
Other than that he just runs interference for the mad monk. As the mad monk dismantles our government
Joinfortmill
(17,130 posts)Cowpunk
(815 posts)It will drive The Beast crazy. Well, even more crazy, and drive a wedge between The Beast and Musk.