It's not rocket science.

But now his own words can be used against him. The trick is going to be finding a way to enforce any action against him.

It will disable My Government for 130 Days, he has, and GOP is with Fold Arms

They have never believed that the confederacy was beaten in the Civil War. Maybe it was rigged or something and that’s where we’re at right now still fighting that.

"How the South Won the Civil War" by Heather Cox Richardson

"American Nations" by Colin Woodard

Who gave Elon Security Clearance to access America's?

It had to be Chump who somehow enabled Musk with his own "highest-level" clearance. There's really no other way Musk could have hacked into the federal government's data. Even after Musk is escorted from the premises, he's already got everything in his hot little hands.

How long until this data gets turned over to Putin and the Russian hackers?

A Tesla factory worth hundreds of billions subject to blackmail or just a sweep of ownership overnight as he would please...

Taiwan is in the cross hairs, millions of victims of a ruthless invasion planned since decades.

$WASTiMusKKKA doesn't care about any widespread bloodshed. He only pretends he is to boost his portfolio because, how many Billions are enough Billions??

He's a f**king criminal hypocrite!

How about last week?

I would say he’s our biggest enemy right now since he’s obviously in cahoots with Putin. He hast to be stopped or the United States will be stopped. And the Republican party has got to come to their senses somehow I don’t know how.

The GOP sold out their country a long time ago for power and money.
It was an easy decision for them to go do the dark side.

I come from Delaware, which was the first state to ratify the constitution, we learn a lot about it. I don’t think Elon knows a damn thing.

He and Putin have a plan and that plan is going quite well.
Degrade and damage the US, democracy, Americans, military and national security.

The global billionaires have aligned with the world fascists and they
are opening Champaign bottles as we speak.

Russia and China intend to be the sole 21st century superpowers.

We are on the receiving end of a shock and awe, blitzkrieg Nazi style attack.
This is a very elaborate, expensive, well thought out long term plan.

And we are on our back foot to say the least.

Most of the suggestions I have seen are naive or lame
and will not deter the PutinGOP one bit.

But at least people are trying to fight back.

The most important thing to do right now is a very honest
appraisal of where we stand, how much damage has been done
and will be done. What and who are up against.

Most people are in denial and cannot wrap their heads around what is happening.
And object to honest appraisals as being too negative.

Once we are free to look at things realistically, do a damage assessment,
and understand who and what we are up against we can make a plan.
Usually a plan involves identifying the Achilles' heal of your enemy
and pressing very hard against it.

One person happens to be an expert at this, so I would love to talk to Zelensky right now.

V for Vendetta

China and Russia have an uneasy alliance.

China is furious with Russia for misleading them about how easy the invasion of Ukraine would be.
This screwed up China's plan to invade Taiwan, delayed that invasion.
And China is terrified of European and US sanctions for helping Russia.
China's economy is in the toilet due to Xi's lack of economic acumen.

While they have agreed that Putin gets Europe and Xi gets the Pacific,
I think they will fight over South America and Africa.

And Trump is supposed to get North and Central America, but
Trump will double cross both Putin and Xi and that will cause more infighting.

He has ignored every bit of it.

His businesses need to be dismantled and his wealth seized.

lousy dancer.

We can all look forward to that, then.

On a serious note, if we only advocate for things that have a high likelihood of happening, there can never be any progress. Advocacy is about what should happen, not what can happen.

Then to Congress and then SCOTUS, LAST trump.

In my view, it all boils down to bigotry.

They hate government only because the people they
hate are both taking leadership positions AND being
helped and supported with government funding...

while they feel used and abused by it because of
the way propaganda is fed to them by white people.

Well then... it now appears they are getting the total
destruction of their government.

But it's not just Nazism that's the problem... it's that
the only people their leaders actually intend to leave
standing -- that is, to govern -- will be supposedly
rich white plutocrats like themselves...

except what they don't realize is that, in reality
nobody will be left standing if their crazy wet dreams
of power and destruction are allowed to proceed.

That's it - he has no pride in 'place'. Place matters.

My husband became a citizen in 2020 - after having held a green card since 1973 - going back and forth between Italy and the USA. He was special forces in Italy - and had a tremendous respect for this ally - the USA.

Is that the difference? Is that how one dual citizen looks at America and knows he stands on the shoulders of those who came before him . . .

And the other one wants to erase us?

He took the same oath my husband did when he became a United States Citizen - he's breaking his oath.

norms, laws or allies. That would be the orange draft dodger and the self-admitted "enemy of the US" Mr. Felon Musk.

My wife's father came from Italy and served in WWII (U.S. Army)

They'd likely run just fine without him.
Get some talented management to run SpaceX, and let the tekkies play!

I wish he would have stayed his annoying ass in SA.

Obviously, he hates Americans.

Can't let him get away with this shit.

are Russian assets... I'm a bit surprised they're admitting it so early.....

I admit it's a distinction without a difference.

Maybe he's considered a useful fool by both?

... attributed to Sun Tzu, in his book, The Art of War, in which he observed that an intransigent enemy would burn the object of his desire to the ground so he could rule over the ashes.
Enough with the hand-wringing and political niceties. It's time to get serious, and neutralize these traitors by whatever means necessary, or the ashes will be all that's left.
Musk is a psychopath. You cannot rehabilitate a psychopath. You can only contain him... or exact the ultimate punishment.

Totally agree and the orange parasite is also a psychopath and a nasty pos.

I subscribe to her Substack and could not find this on her post of 03Feb2025

https://open.substack.com/pub/heathercoxrichardson/p/february-3-2025?r=33s8c&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

I want to share it.

I clipped it verbatim.

my bad, I was looking for the text following your clip.

Heather Cox Richardson is the BEST.

just to double check for my own verification. It came back with several hits.

That is all

Trump loyalists control the DOJ and Pentagon now.

(That includes Russia, China, and South Africa.) BIG bonus waiting if he can seriously undermine the U.S. so BRICS can take over world "leadership"?

Most people would just say this is our best hand. What's wrong with Musk's and pedo Trump's speaking abilities? They talk as if English is their second language. Maybe Russian is their true mother tongue.

I don’t see that or something similar in quotes. Just find it odd.

but I didn't hear it myself

Pretty clear to me that a foreign, power mad, unscrupulous, evil and truly dangerous to all Americans sociopath is destroying our democratic experiment. Now. In plain sight.

Musk and his DOGE Agents are actually the ones guilty of committing a crime. Their "authority" is unconstitutional. They are guilty of Obstruction of Government Operations.

Their attempts to freeze Federal funds is illegal as well. The Executive Branch does not have the legal right to freeze funds that have been authorized by the Congress. They also have no legal right to dissolve an Agency created by Congress.

This is a flagrant violation of the Constitution and the Separation of Powers. These people are domestic enemies of the Constitution and everyone that has taken an Oath to defend the Constitution must take action against these traitors and criminals.

It seems clear that these fascists will now weaponize the criminal justice system in DC and will drum up false and spurious charges against anyone that tries to stand against their authoritarian takeover of OUR government. This is an attempted deathblow to our Democracy. I do not believe that the People will stand for it. There will be an uprising of millions.

We need to stop or significantly slow them and hope that SCOTUS just hand everything to them. What if SCOTUS stops Musk & Trump and they just ignore the court? Who is there to stop them, to force them to back off.

It's now. I caught a little bit of the protest at the Treasury.

It's going to take Congress behaving like the 1/6 Terrorists to get into those buildings.

I would support that. Take a flag pole and smash through the glass.

Musk and DOGE seizing the Treasury payment system is illegal and unconstitutional. It is a long shot, but perhaps Federal law enforcement could retake control of the Treasury payment system from Musk and his DOGE Agents.

If a Judge rules again that freezing federal money is unconstitutional then the FBI and other Federal law enforcement agencies would have a legal basis for retaking the Treasury payment system. They must be loyal to their oaths to defend the Constitution, not to any illegal orders to support an unconstitutional action by Musk. Hopefully these Federal Agents would be loyal to their oaths to defend the Constitution and not to those who are in violation of the Constitution.

The Federal Agents could restore control of the payment system to the civil service, who could then lawfully restart the federal payments. If Musk and DOGE stop the federal payments (no Social Security payments, no paychecks to federal employees, etc.) and this was ruled unconstitutional by another Judge then the FBI and other federal law enforcement would be able to legally seize the payment system back from DOGE. The loyalties of Federal Agents must be to the Constitution, not to Dictators who are flagrantly violating the Constitution.

You know the thinking:

"I object to some features of the current system, so I'm going to try to reduce it to a smouldering mess, and while the peasants are running around all confused, I will make myself King of the junk pile! Their loss, my gain!"

Then again, Elon likes the Nazi salute and went to Germany to talk up their Nazis, so does it make him a Nazi Anarchist?
I guess so.

For a bright lad, he isn't too smart!

(There is an easy way to stop both Elon and Trump, but it requires illegal use of violence, so I won't mention it.)

And he is within!

Fuckers out of the building NOW!!

Whatever it takes needs to be done to stop them immediately.

We gotta quit thinking that our politics has the eloquence of "The West Wing," because these guys are on season four of "Game of Thrones." And we're the Starks.

Men and Women in the thousands have sacrificed their lives over the last 250 years to build and preserve the very United States that this fascist peon from South Africa has decided to casually sweep into oblivion.

Lock them up in a military prison with Vance and Republicans that are part of the coup.

The article implies Musk was just talking about get rid of federal regulations, not destroying the entire government.

Eradicate those regulations and you endanger the electorate. There is a Constitutionally proscribed process for both adopting and eliminating those regulations. Musk can't unilaterally destroy regulations without destroying what makes the U.S. what it is.

Very unlikable inside and out

Dump the car, disconnect the battery on the house. Delete X. Everything that apartheid nightmare ever worked on.

The phrase "destruction of the federal government" is Heather Cox Richardson's interpretation of what Musk said.

I want to see Musk's actual words. Whatever he's talking about may well involve the destruction of the federal government, but he likely didn't say so directly, and the distinction matters.

This post doesn't have a direct link to Heather Cox Richardson's column, just a snippet from it. You can read the column here:
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/february-3-2025

A Guardian article quotes more of what Musk said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/04/musk-regulation-spending

Putin loving piece of shit.

Arrest his ass now!!!!!!!

is "destruction of the federal government". But that is HCR's interpretation, and the fact that the exact words he used are seemingly purposefully excluded, would be more than enough for me to consider that this is a possible case of a writer putting words into the guy's mouth.

I, for one, am getting tired of stuff like this on DU. We have more than enough actual, real, known crap to worry about without needing to resort to hyperbole and hot takes. MHO, fwiw.

Stating that you want to endanger Americans by stripping away their duly earned and lawfully erected protections, then using destruction of the Constitutional order and process to do so is being an advocate for the continuation of the United States.

He's a fascist fucking menace, drunk on power and breaking laws left and right, and he MUST be stopped All I'm saying is that he did not "admit that he's an enemy of the United States", from the evidence presented by the quote in the OP. What we know, is that he said these words: “If it’s not possible now, it will never be possible. This is our shot, This is the best hand of cards we’re ever going to have. If we don’t take advantage of this best hand of cards, it’s never going to happen.”. That is not: "I Elon Musk am an enemy of the United States". If you'd just said "tacitly admits" in the headline, I wouldn't have said anything. That would be much more accurate.

And I'm sorry if it feels like I'm singling your post out, it's just people are doing this sort of thing all day on here, and I only occasionally mention it. I'm already VERY on edge, barely holding it together, and I know I'm not the only one here in that boat. If people phrase their headline as if they're stating factual information, it'd be awesome if they'd stick to what is actually known/verifiable? That's all I'm asking, of all my friends here, and of course, I'm nobody, nobody has to do a thing I ask, but I'd really appreciate it .