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RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 12:47 AM Feb 2025

the failure to deal with Jan 6th lead to this

Lets face it we treated the insurrectionists with kid gloves. If it was anyone else it would have been put down before they even reached the steps. The capitol police should have opened fire on the mob the moment they start breaking into the building.

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the failure to deal with Jan 6th lead to this (Original Post) RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 OP
Failure to prosecute the insurrectionist-in-chief radius777 Feb 2025 #1
+1 dalton99a Feb 2025 #6
That's something I'll always believe down to my bones. dchill Feb 2025 #19
Get ready for a lot of pathetic excuse making which depends upon utterly delusional RockRaven Feb 2025 #2
I'm ready RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #3
Any other country would have dealt with this much more seriously DSandra Feb 2025 #4
yup RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #5
Brazil frequently evicts, then it evicts the person who did the evicting. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #7
I think this is what our establishment radius777 Feb 2025 #8
Right Baron2024 Feb 2025 #12
Democrats still are not with the game kansasobama Feb 2025 #31
its so frustrating! RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #33
Yes... Even Trump's White House Counsel thought he would be immediately arrested afterwards... hlthe2b Feb 2025 #23
Been saying this for 4 years. The fact that only ONE of them was killed is absurd...and the subsequent refusal to hold Karasu Feb 2025 #9
exactly RJ-MacReady Feb 2025 #11
Yep Baron2024 Feb 2025 #10
Disagree iemanja Feb 2025 #13
The failure to deal DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #14
100% (but) Nasruddin Feb 2025 #15
I don't think you mean Joe Biden!?! Right? AKwannabe Feb 2025 #17
Welcome to DU AKwannabe Feb 2025 #16
I would go so far as to say that not rolling back the Reagan tax cuts LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #18
Absolutely Eddie Haskell 60 Feb 2025 #20
I'm still keen to prosecute the Brooks Brothers Rioters from 2000 meadowlander Feb 2025 #21
Spain circa 1937 ... LITERALLY is worse at least there was a war for the country !!! uponit7771 Feb 2025 #22
Trump should be in prison, not the White House. Emile Feb 2025 #24
Absolutely FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #25
How would that change how people vote ? JI7 Feb 2025 #26
It doesn't matter what the far right thinks, radius777 Feb 2025 #34
The failures after the Civil War have led to this PJMcK Feb 2025 #27
"Our country has never erased the racist stain caused by slavery." Seeking Serenity Feb 2025 #35
I look at Trump with horror, the insurrectionists with horror, and now my neighbors that support Trump with horror. dem4decades Feb 2025 #28
An unpunished BigMin28 Feb 2025 #29
And they should have properly punished the Confederates Dem4life1234 Feb 2025 #30
They were emboldened when they saw the weak response to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge takeover in 2016. nt RandiFan1290 Feb 2025 #32
Not a lot is going on now either kansasobama Feb 2025 #36

radius777

(3,921 posts)
1. Failure to prosecute the insurrectionist-in-chief
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 12:52 AM
Feb 2025

first was the big mistake. On day one Merrick Garland should have made it his duty to prosecute and convict the traitor.

RockRaven

(18,740 posts)
2. Get ready for a lot of pathetic excuse making which depends upon utterly delusional
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 12:54 AM
Feb 2025

trust in obsolete or corrupted systems -- the same error made by people in the relevant government offices in question.

DSandra

(1,697 posts)
4. Any other country would have dealt with this much more seriously
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:01 AM
Feb 2025

Is America's judiciary a joke? It sure looks like it.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
7. Brazil frequently evicts, then it evicts the person who did the evicting.
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:15 AM
Feb 2025

It seems to be a vicious cycle. Lula was already impeached about 12 years ago. Then, the one after him got impeached. Then the one that impeached the one after Lula got impeached. They like to impeach the impeachers.

This is also the second time in eight years that S Korea has thrown out their president

radius777

(3,921 posts)
8. I think this is what our establishment
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:26 AM
Feb 2025

leaders like Mueller, Garland, McConnell and even Biden felt about this - that they didn't want America to become like other countries where each successive leader seeks to lock up the prior leader. But our establishment failed to understand that Trump is an existential threat to the Republic, who sought to stop the peaceful transfer of power by inciting a violent insurrection. He's a traitor and should have (a) been impeached and (b) convicted of sedition. By not doing that, we are truly becoming the banana republic 'the establishment' feared.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
12. Right
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:52 AM
Feb 2025

And the Republicans in the Congress allowed it when they voted against impeachment. There really is no such thing as a Republican anymore. They are all MAGA cowards now. MAGA has consumed the Republican Party like a cancer. John McCain is spinning in his grave. You know you are a radical fascist and anti-American when a conservative like Liz Cheney stands against you. I am a Progressive but we would have been light years better off with an opponent like Mitt Romney rather than these deranged MAGA Fascists. Trump should have been impeached and convicted.

kansasobama

(1,750 posts)
31. Democrats still are not with the game
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 09:05 AM
Feb 2025

Yes, some Dems have woken up but it is alarming leaders like Durbin, Pelosi. Schumer are so beholden to "customs", they would rather wait out. Durbin is so no-energy senator. I understand it is tiring. But they have signed up to be representatives and the country is burning. Where is Obama? I don't get it. It looks like Dems themselves were not believing the gravity of the situation and were so unprepared. It is improving some now. Pelosi shut down AOC. For what? AOC can speak better than anyone.

hlthe2b

(112,842 posts)
23. Yes... Even Trump's White House Counsel thought he would be immediately arrested afterwards...
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 05:44 AM
Feb 2025

I have tried hard not to direct my wrath at Merrick Garland these past few years, but this would have been his ultimate decision—not Chris Wray's (albeit I've had my doubts about him, too).

Karasu

(2,003 posts)
9. Been saying this for 4 years. The fact that only ONE of them was killed is absurd...and the subsequent refusal to hold
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:30 AM
Feb 2025

Last edited Sat Feb 8, 2025, 04:07 AM - Edit history (1)

Trump (or anyone really, now that so many have been fucking pardoned) accountable was the beginning of the end.

 

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
11. exactly
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 01:43 AM
Feb 2025

I said it Jan 7th 2021, this will huant us later. Ashli Babbitt got what she deserved.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
14. The failure to deal
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 02:37 AM
Feb 2025

with the 1980 election, the 2000 election, The 2004 election, and the 2016 election, lead to this..........

Nasruddin

(1,178 posts)
15. 100% (but)
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 02:39 AM
Feb 2025

Alas this is on JB.

I don't think a Cossacks at the Winter Palace moment would have been right, however.

Eddie Haskell 60

(39 posts)
20. Absolutely
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 03:50 AM
Feb 2025

The Democratic party completely failed in the swift prosecution of Trump and his seditious supporters.

meadowlander

(5,098 posts)
21. I'm still keen to prosecute the Brooks Brothers Rioters from 2000
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 04:03 AM
Feb 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Letting those little peckerheads get away scot-free after shutting down counting of a Federal election just emboldened them and it's been almost straight down hill since them.

It's not going to stop until there are actual consequences for subverting democracy.

JI7

(93,235 posts)
26. How would that change how people vote ?
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 07:55 AM
Feb 2025

I agreer they should have shut them down harder. But look at how they claim Babbit is a victim. A certain segment of the population would not suddenly stop supporting the shit becsuse they were dealt with in a a tougher manner.

Here is the reality, a certain significant percentage of the population doesn't care that Trump is a rapist and fraud. They don't care if he sold secrets to Russia.

radius777

(3,921 posts)
34. It doesn't matter what the far right thinks,
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 05:58 PM
Feb 2025

they're going to watch Fox 24/7 and vote R anyway - it's the broad center of the electorate we needed to convince. By letting Trump walk it sent the message that nothing really serious happened, which played into the right's narrative.

PJMcK

(24,771 posts)
27. The failures after the Civil War have led to this
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 07:55 AM
Feb 2025

Our country has never erased the racist stain caused by slavery. Our governments have always said, “Let’s look forward, not backwards.” This has meant that traitors and criminals get away with their crimes.

Trump is example No. 1.

I’m fairly pessimistic about the U.S. Too many of our fellow citizens are just plain stupid racists.

Seeking Serenity

(3,280 posts)
35. "Our country has never erased the racist stain caused by slavery."
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 06:21 PM
Feb 2025

Can it, ever, from your point of view? If so, what would it take? If not, what happens then?

Honest questions (and please avoid the overused and simplistic answer "reparations," because that's what "what would it take" is asking about).

dem4decades

(13,703 posts)
28. I look at Trump with horror, the insurrectionists with horror, and now my neighbors that support Trump with horror.
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 07:56 AM
Feb 2025

My wife doesn't want to go anywhere if there's a chance, she'll be in the company of a MAGA, and so far, we've changed where we eat and who we visit.

Dem4life1234

(2,533 posts)
30. And they should have properly punished the Confederates
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 08:58 AM
Feb 2025

This country should deal with treasonous acts the way other countries did to the perpetrators.

You send an example to the menaces.


To have pardoned them is a slap in the face.

Furthermore, this bloated orange monster should have been thrown in prison. His MAGAt dunces will whine, but who cares?



Why can't the USA get it right?

RandiFan1290

(6,675 posts)
32. They were emboldened when they saw the weak response to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge takeover in 2016. nt
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 09:10 AM
Feb 2025

kansasobama

(1,750 posts)
36. Not a lot is going on now either
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 06:32 PM
Feb 2025

Yes, some older people like me knock on Senator's doors. However, I see more crowds in a KU basketball game than at Moran's office. I was thinking, do these kids know they are in a country careening towards fascism? Media and tech bros with Trump is very serious. Social media will parrot Trump message. Frankly, I do not know how to wake up people. Yes. Garland failing on Jan 6th and failure to impeach Trump after Jan 6th may have sealed our fate. Even now, I am so tired of seeing Dems following norms as Trump is coming with a sword to end democracy

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