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Coventina

(28,220 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:33 AM Feb 11

Heartbreaking encounter with a student today.

She came up to me after class to ask me a question.

I thought it was going to be about the course, but it wasn't.

She showed me the email sent to all our students about how to handle an ICE raid, should it happen.

She is not of voting age, BTW.

I explained, the situation to her as clearly as I could, and she started crying.

She expressed disbelief that this was happening.

I tried to be as comforting as I could, but I agreed that these are very scary times.

This country has failed.

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Heartbreaking encounter with a student today. (Original Post) Coventina Feb 11 OP
Post removed Post removed Feb 11 #1
None of my students are "Illegal." They are simply my students. Coventina Feb 11 #2
Undocumented Migrants was the official term Biden instituted IbogaProject Feb 11 #13
People are not illegal. Period. Ms. Toad Feb 11 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 11 #5
You aren't seriously looking then. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 11 #7
Wut u say? WheelWalker Feb 11 #4
Oooohhhh...gonna look and see if it's one of the unholy trilogy AllyCat Feb 11 #17
Post removed Post removed Feb 11 #6
You are spouting nonsense. Ms. Toad Feb 11 #8
MIRT reporting for duty, we have a special place for this one..... KS Toronado Feb 11 #15
Thank you much! Ms. Toad Feb 11 #16
Nope DU is her sandbox KS Toronado Feb 11 #20
Not one I recognize - Ms. Toad Feb 11 #23
New team member that caught this one said LG KS Toronado Feb 11 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 11 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 11 #27
Who you gonna call William769 Feb 11 #30
Most here use the term undocumented person. Iris Feb 11 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 11 #10
Your words and "logic" are puerile. Iris Feb 11 #11
bye Mountainguy Feb 11 #14
lol! Got it! Iris Feb 11 #31
I don't think I would know how to explain it to a child. GoodRaisin Feb 11 #12
How about the truth? KS Toronado Feb 11 #18
Any child in this country deserves an education, I don't care if they are undocumented. They should feel welcomed not yaesu Feb 11 #19
Dead school children get thoughts and prayers. Guns get protective legislation. Norrrm Feb 11 #21
Recommended. H2O Man Feb 11 #22
They shouldn't be able to enter the school AdamGG Feb 11 #25
Infuriating! These children already have to worry about being shot in school, now they LoisB Feb 11 #26
My daughter still had an accent when she spent her high school semester in Dallas DFW Feb 11 #28
Once ICE Agents realize how many school shootings there are.... 70sEraVet Feb 11 #32
This country hasn't failed... GiqueCee Feb 11 #33

Response to Coventina (Original post)

IbogaProject

(4,128 posts)
13. Undocumented Migrants was the official term Biden instituted
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:55 AM
Feb 11

That was to remove the Term Illegal Alien.

But yes kids are just kids, they didn't have a say in being here usually.

Ms. Toad

(36,190 posts)
3. People are not illegal. Period.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:42 AM
Feb 11

Beyond that, many US citizens have been picked up in raids and held for days without access to resources to establish citizenship, then released. Have all US citizens been released? There is no way to tell, because ICE is not releasing the names of people detained - so they hold who they want to hold, in secret, and we'll never know whether they are citizens or not. Brown skin, or a Spanish accent is all that is required.

Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #3)

AllyCat

(17,603 posts)
17. Oooohhhh...gonna look and see if it's one of the unholy trilogy
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:07 AM
Feb 11

I keep thinking will out themselves eventually…

Response to Coventina (Original post)

Ms. Toad

(36,190 posts)
8. You are spouting nonsense.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:51 AM
Feb 11

Anyone with brown skin or an accent is being picked up and detained if they happen to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time. ICE is detaining and then (maybe) releasing them after the dust settles. In the meantime, they are being held secretly and without access to resources to prove they are citizens, or in this country with the proper documentation.

****Calling MIRT****

Ms. Toad

(36,190 posts)
16. Thank you much!
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:06 AM
Feb 11

I figure they've been tossed there twice already, since the second DU sign-up in this thread was seconds after the first set of "post removed" posts. Maybe they will call it a day and find some other sandbox to play in.

Ms. Toad

(36,190 posts)
23. Not one I recognize -
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:28 AM
Feb 11

but it's been a while since I was on MIRT.

Too explicitly right wing, too early in her sequential tenure for LG (the only female I specifically remember).

KS Toronado

(20,963 posts)
24. New team member that caught this one said LG
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:42 AM
Feb 11

but only grabbed one of the 4 posts, so I'm not sure who it was. Spammers are thick tonight.

Response to KS Toronado (Reply #24)

Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #23)

Iris

(16,300 posts)
9. Most here use the term undocumented person.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:52 AM
Feb 11

Regardless of her status, she has a right to he feelings. And that's the way it will be.

Response to Iris (Reply #9)

GoodRaisin

(9,993 posts)
12. I don't think I would know how to explain it to a child.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:55 AM
Feb 11

I don’t even understand people wanting to do this.

KS Toronado

(20,963 posts)
18. How about the truth?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:08 AM
Feb 11

"Unfortunately Dear we have stupid idiot in the White House who's jealous of you and........."

yaesu

(8,622 posts)
19. Any child in this country deserves an education, I don't care if they are undocumented. They should feel welcomed not
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:10 AM
Feb 11

fear.

H2O Man

(76,274 posts)
22. Recommended.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:23 AM
Feb 11

That is terrible. I am sorry you had to experience this. And I am furious that your student has to worry about this. (If possible, I hope you can tell her that a lot of us are fighting for her.)

AdamGG

(1,633 posts)
25. They shouldn't be able to enter the school
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 02:25 AM
Feb 11

without a warrant that is approved by a judge to apprehend a specific kid. And then, they should do it at their home, not at school.

The idea of fishing for children and detaining those who have accents, poor English, brown skin, etc. on the chance that they MAY be undocumented immigrants is outrageous and unconstitutional. They shouldn't detain anybody without demonstrating probable cause related to that individual first.

LoisB

(9,612 posts)
26. Infuriating! These children already have to worry about being shot in school, now they
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:10 AM
Feb 11

have to worry about a bunch of ICE thugs raiding their schools, kidnapping them after school or going home to find their parents have been "removed". Thoroughly disgusting.

DFW

(57,417 posts)
28. My daughter still had an accent when she spent her high school semester in Dallas
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 04:05 AM
Feb 11

I wonder if a raid would have picked her up? She is blond and has an American passport, but she didn’t carry her passport around with her, and she didn’t lose her accent completely until she was in college.

70sEraVet

(4,388 posts)
32. Once ICE Agents realize how many school shootings there are....
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 07:24 PM
Feb 11

They will start turning down those assignments. Maybe instead, they'll go to the churches to make arrests. Oh, wait....

GiqueCee

(1,904 posts)
33. This country hasn't failed...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 07:54 PM
Feb 11

... but the Republicans sure as hell have.

When the dust settles, and Trump and his merry band of psychopaths are rotting in prison for the rest of their rotten lives, some very strong guardrails have to be put in place that no shitstain fascists can remove. Start with NO convicted felon can ever hold elective office in this country ever again. Not EVER. And the Republican Party must join the Nazis on the dungheap of history. Politicians must be qualified, and must run on their own proven merits, with no party affiliations whatsoever.

There's more, but I gotta cook dinner.

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