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babylonsister

(171,887 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:26 PM Feb 11

Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for continued support


Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for continued support
“We have to get something. We can’t continue to pay this money,” U.S. president says.

February 11, 2025 7:09 am CET
By Seb Starcevic


American support for Ukraine has a price tag: $500B worth of mineral riches, said U.S. President Donald Trump.

In the second part of an interview with Fox News that aired late Monday, the Republican said the U.S. should get a slice of Ukraine’s vast natural resources as compensation for the hundreds of billions it has spent on helping Kyiv resist Russia's full-scale invasion.

“I told them [Ukraine] that I want the equivalent like $500B worth of rare earth. And they've essentially agreed to do that so at least we don’t feel stupid,” Trump said.

“Otherwise, we're stupid. I said to them we have to — 'we have to get something. We can’t continue to pay this money,'” he added.


Ukraine holds huge deposits of critical elements and minerals, from lithium to titanium, which are vital to manufacturing modern technologies. It also has vast coal reserves, as well as oil, gas and uranium, but much of this is in territories under Russian control.

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https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-demands-500b-in-rare-earths-from-ukraine-for-support/
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Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for continued support (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 11 OP
Worst person in the world. SammyWinstonJack Feb 11 #1
Can't be trusted. We already know he's in cahoots with Putin. brush Feb 11 #15
He wrote the book on Predatory Capitalism. Emile Feb 11 #2
Quid Pro Quo with a HUGE pricetag! ProudMNDemocrat Feb 11 #3
For the love of God, please tell me this is from The Onion. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #4
Ukraine, sell your rare minerals to another country, no_hypocrisy Feb 11 #5
Spoiled child "I wanna" "I wanna" QED Feb 11 #6
This is why he double-crossed Putin. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #7
Can you elaborate on this please? awesomerwb1 Feb 11 #10
Sorry, it seems so obvious to me. Irish_Dem Feb 11 #20
Interesting Kaleva Feb 11 #21
Thank you for the explanation awesomerwb1 Feb 11 #23
Putin's kompromat is worthless now? Irish_Dem Feb 11 #24
Maybe it'll be worthless awesomerwb1 Feb 11 #28
Who will enforce court orders? Irish_Dem Feb 11 #29
... Solly Mack Feb 11 #8
Everything is transactional for him. redstatebluegirl Feb 11 #9
Ukraine should invite him to come talk about it. chowder66 Feb 11 #11
In other words... kentuck Feb 11 #12
Your money or your life. milestogo Feb 11 #13
Heard someone say, and I agree it looks that way, he's running the presidency like he is a CEO of some Liberal In Texas Feb 11 #14
He also thought we should be entitled to Iraq's oil resources after we illegally travelingthrulife Feb 12 #33
Megalomaniac VGNonly Feb 11 #16
Putin has always wanted those rare earths to cachukis Feb 11 #17
Two bit mafioso Prairie Gates Feb 11 #18
Our pastor told a story about a committee Ilsa Feb 11 #19
He's running a Mafia style protection racket. sinkingfeeling Feb 11 #22
Keep in mind that he won't deliver Bettie Feb 11 #25
No, he's known not to deliver nor pay bills. ... Lovie777 Feb 11 #26
The ONLY "deal" that matters to him Bettie Feb 11 #27
Now I see why Putin is turning against Trump. ananda Feb 11 #30
What's the word I'm trying to think of? Danascot Feb 12 #31
Dont you take this deal Johonny Feb 12 #32

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,481 posts)
3. Quid Pro Quo with a HUGE pricetag!
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:32 PM
Feb 11

Ukraine does not have that kind of money.

Knowing tRump reneges on deals, Ukraine cannot comply.

no_hypocrisy

(50,550 posts)
5. Ukraine, sell your rare minerals to another country,
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:32 PM
Feb 11

then consider whether to pay U.S. Other countries might give FREE military aid.

QED

(3,121 posts)
6. Spoiled child "I wanna" "I wanna"
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:32 PM
Feb 11

Everyday, a different "demand". Does he even know what he's doing or asking for? I don't think so - he's just mouthing off while Pres. Musk and his boys run the country.

awesomerwb1

(4,679 posts)
10. Can you elaborate on this please?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:39 PM
Feb 11

How and when did he double cross Vlad? I have not heard anything about this.

Irish_Dem

(65,485 posts)
20. Sorry, it seems so obvious to me.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:48 PM
Feb 11

We know that Putin helped Trump get installed in the WH last time and this time.
Trump has regular contact with Putin.

Putin certainly expects something in return.

Putin is desperate about Ukraine, he is losing a huge number of troops and families are not happy.
The Russian economy is tanking, the war costs and damage to oil refineries from Ukraine drones are
causing many problems. Putin could lose his power as oligarchs lose income.

Certainly Putin and everyone else assumed Trump would hand over Ukraine to Putin.

Putin and the Russian media has alway been complimentary towards Trump but this fall the tone changed.
Negative comments about Trump. Then Russian TV showing porn pictures of Melania, humiliating her and Trump.
Something was obviously wrong.

Then Trump starts talking to Zelensky. Next we see Trump naming his price to help Ukraine win the war.
$500B. I do not think Putin has a spare $500B unless he takes it from his private stash.

Trump double crossing Putin? This is certainly something Trump would do.
Putin has humiliated Trump in the past. We have seen some of the pictures telling us this.
Trump is getting even and humiliating Putin.

Trump also wants to be the most powerful man in the world and the richest.
Putin can pound sand now as far as Trump is concerned?

awesomerwb1

(4,679 posts)
23. Thank you for the explanation
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 02:49 PM
Feb 11

Appreciate you taking the time to write that. I'm sure others will find it interesting as well.

If accurate, we'll see how Putin reacts. I'm sure trump will have something to offer to him to avoid kompromat leaks etc.

Irish_Dem

(65,485 posts)
24. Putin's kompromat is worthless now?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:01 PM
Feb 11

This is one reason Trump can double cross Putin now.

There is absolutely nothing Trump can do that will alienate his cult.
And the GOP congress does not seem to care one iota what Trump is doing.
Media is the cult propaganda arm.

What power does Putin have over Trump now? Not much?

Perhaps Trump is not double crossing Putin, but negotiating.
Trump wants $500B from Zelensky, and wants cash from Putin as well.
So he will soak both sides to make some great money for himself.

Putin will see it as a double cross I think.

awesomerwb1

(4,679 posts)
28. Maybe it'll be worthless
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:20 PM
Feb 11

if trump can effectively consolidate himself as a Putin style dictator. (Which he is well on his way to doing if he ends up completely ignoring the Courts).

Irish_Dem

(65,485 posts)
29. Who will enforce court orders?
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:32 PM
Feb 11

The courts didn't want to do it when Trump was just an ex-president.

Who will take on a sitting US POTUS?

Putin trained Donnie to be just like him.
But Donnie outdid Putin, and now Putin is owned by Trump.
???

We shall see.

If this was a movie I would not believe it.

Liberal In Texas

(14,988 posts)
14. Heard someone say, and I agree it looks that way, he's running the presidency like he is a CEO of some
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 12:58 PM
Feb 11

big company that doesn't have a board of directors. He thinks running a company is like being an owner who sits behind a desk and makes this deal or that and to fire the people in that department he doesn't like. He's still following a The Apprentice script. And ignore the half a dozen bankruptcies, it's just business. And the employees (us) have to be loyal and beholden to him or they're gone.

Which is what he thinks of this Ukraine "deal." He's going to sell them help for their resource. He thinks he's the best deal maker in the history of deal making.


travelingthrulife

(1,741 posts)
33. He also thought we should be entitled to Iraq's oil resources after we illegally
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 11:15 AM
Feb 12

invaded them under Dubya.

cachukis

(2,923 posts)
17. Putin has always wanted those rare earths to
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:06 PM
Feb 11

diversify his economy from oil. Trump recently found this out and is now using it to play his cards as THE badass dictator.
He wants to release himself from the binds of Putin.
His followers love his dominion approach.
This train is speeding up.

Ilsa

(62,584 posts)
19. Our pastor told a story about a committee
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 01:41 PM
Feb 11

he had proposed a project to. He asked them to consider enlisting volunteers who could park at church, and walk down the block to a seniors community and participate in programs like reading to small groups, etc. One woman on the committee commented, "I don't get it. What do we get out of it?" The pastor told her, "We get nothing out of it, that's what makes it so Christian."

Everything is transactional to Trump. Aid, religion, Christianity, voters, parenting, marriage, relationships, everything. I'm surprised he doesn't expect a surprise every time he gives his toilet a big dump. (It's probably how he got toilet trained.)

Bettie

(17,908 posts)
25. Keep in mind that he won't deliver
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:03 PM
Feb 11

aid until after he, personally, receives payment for the sale of these rare earth minerals and then, he still won't deliver aid.

Bettie

(17,908 posts)
27. The ONLY "deal" that matters to him
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:07 PM
Feb 11

is when he benefits and the other party does not receive what they have paid for.

ananda

(31,311 posts)
30. Now I see why Putin is turning against Trump.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 03:34 PM
Feb 11

Wellwellwell

This is an interesting turn of events.

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