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djacq

(1,710 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:42 PM Feb 11

Did Sen Klobuchar failed to answer Joy Reid's question?

While watching MSNBC's The Reid Out, Joy pointed out to Senator Klobuchar that she voted to confirm 8 of Trump's nominees.

She then asked the Senator, "why vote for any of Trump's nominees to be confirm?"

Senator Klobuchar's answer was to point out how many she voted against.

That's not an answer.

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Did Sen Klobuchar failed to answer Joy Reid's question? (Original Post) djacq Feb 11 OP
I saw that too, she couldn't justify why she voted for any of them. Some Democrats have doc03 Feb 11 #1
Not all iemanja Feb 11 #2
Hegseth and Vought got no Republican votes Polybius Feb 11 #10
Correct Wiz Imp Feb 11 #13
I'm watching bdamomma Feb 11 #3
Track your senators here TheProle Feb 11 #4
Thanks for that link. red dog 1 Feb 11 #9
And call them here ancianita Feb 11 #18
She positions herself as a centrist Democrat. milestogo Feb 11 #5
There is no American political constituency for centrism. Yavin4 Feb 11 #17
I agree. milestogo Feb 11 #19
... ancianita Feb 11 #21
This is true! ShazzieB Feb 12 #25
Absolutely the case. Some people are still mystified why Trump is supported Bluetus Feb 12 #27
Dems couldn't raise the min. wage when they were in power. But look at what Trump is doing with the same power. Yavin4 Feb 12 #29
Especially the lay-ups Bluetus Feb 12 #30
Oh, good. Your post survived jury. Wanted to quote you for best explanation of why trump won. Silent Type Feb 13 #31
She's giving us more of the same, DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 11 #6
She was filibustering Joy Blaukraut Feb 11 #7
Two ways to disrespect your country... dchill Feb 11 #11
All Democratic senators Linda ladeewolf Feb 11 #8
They are deliberately meant to be uniquely unqualified... dchill Feb 11 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Feb 11 #14
Since Last week's all night session... Wiz Imp Feb 11 #15
She thinks Americans want them to work together when they can and find common ground. Emile Feb 11 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 11 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 11 #22
Partisanship Godot51 Feb 11 #23
Partisanship or Bipartisanship? ShazzieB Feb 12 #28
That's very disappointing PatSeg Feb 11 #24
A winning strategy for Democrats. Passages Feb 12 #26

doc03

(37,676 posts)
1. I saw that too, she couldn't justify why she voted for any of them. Some Democrats have
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:46 PM
Feb 11

voted for all except Kash Patel not even Fetterman apparently.

Wiz Imp

(4,653 posts)
13. Correct
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:07 PM
Feb 11

and only Fetterman voted for Bondi.

None of it matters when Republicans refuse to vote NO on anyone. Still the only R NO votes across all nominees have been the 3 against Hegseth.

bdamomma

(67,956 posts)
3. I'm watching
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 08:53 PM
Feb 11

Joy too. What the hell we got the felon's overseer Musk and his son in the oval office, with that pitiful felon.

The felon is a sick fuck. I just hate the fucking POS felon. The felon is making enemies everyday.

milestogo

(20,207 posts)
5. She positions herself as a centrist Democrat.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:28 PM
Feb 11

I think that's because she wants to be president.

But I wish she wouldn't vote for unqualified thugs.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
17. There is no American political constituency for centrism.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:31 PM
Feb 11

The Clinton 90s political era is dead. Dead like fried chicken. We're in the MAGA-verse. People want their politicians to have bold agendas and deliver on them. Not endless babble about bi-partisanship.

ancianita

(40,254 posts)
21. ...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:54 PM
Feb 11

Not so. At least 15 other D senators live up to that, only confirming Rubio and one other.

It's the other 32 D senators who voted YES three to eight times out of 12 confirmations -- they should be called and told to stop helping the felon.

ShazzieB

(20,152 posts)
25. This is true!
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 07:54 PM
Feb 12

Mone of my senators, Tammy Duckworth, is in that group, and I am proud of her.

Bluetus

(909 posts)
27. Absolutely the case. Some people are still mystified why Trump is supported
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 08:06 PM
Feb 12

Last edited Wed Feb 12, 2025, 09:56 PM - Edit history (1)

It is not complicated. A crappy, horrendous, even evil plan beats no plan at all, especially when it is delivered with some gusto.

Democrats don't stand for ANYTHING these days, by and large (some do individually, but as a united party, not so much). The only thing most Dems are for is being AGAINST Trump. That's not good enough. People don't want to know what you are against. They want to know what you are committed to doing that will make their lives better. And they want some confidence that you will either get it done, or go down in flames fighting for it. Americans just don't like the idea of turning tail and waddling away at the slightest resistance from Republicans.

You can't beat a terrible idea with no idea. And that's pretty much the definition of Klobuchar and far too many of her colleagues.

No little ideas. Only big, bold, memorable ideas. Think New Deal, Apollo Project, and Great Society. Those are the things that move people. Everything else ends up being mostly service to billionaires.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
29. Dems couldn't raise the min. wage when they were in power. But look at what Trump is doing with the same power.
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 09:04 PM
Feb 12

That's how most voters see the Democrats as weak and ineffectual. Hard to rally voters on your side during elections when they don't see you doing things.

Bluetus

(909 posts)
30. Especially the lay-ups
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 10:01 PM
Feb 12

Like naming an AG who will actually prosecute crimes.

Or getting rid of the Postmaster General whose whole agenda is to make the USPS so crappy that people will have no choice but to use the private companies. In Indianapolis, DeJoy forced the opening of a massive new regional processing center (bigger than most Amazon buildings), and closed 2 other facilities before the new facility was even half-staffed. As a consequence there are nearly a million packages piled up in that facility now, some 6-8 weeks late.

Same story in Louisville. And I had 4 packages go through the same thing at Jacksonville lat last year.

Silent Type

(8,933 posts)
31. Oh, good. Your post survived jury. Wanted to quote you for best explanation of why trump won.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 12:07 AM
Feb 13

“ A crappy, horrendous, even evil plan beats no plan at all, especially when it is delivered with some gusto.”

I’ve been trying to describe something like that since November, but you nailed it in one friggin sentence. Sure there are many other causes, racism, misogyny, and worse.

But your description is what caused the 5 or 10% — who might have voted for Democrats— to turn to trump.

6. She's giving us more of the same,
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:33 PM
Feb 11

because that's worked so well so far and made America great through bipartisanship.

Blaukraut

(5,957 posts)
7. She was filibustering Joy
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:37 PM
Feb 11

She did not answer Joy’s question. You’re absolutely correct.

dchill

(41,910 posts)
11. Two ways to disrespect your country...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:00 PM
Feb 11

Vote for any Trump nominee.
Filibuster Joy Reid.

Linda ladeewolf

(820 posts)
8. All Democratic senators
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 09:45 PM
Feb 11

Last edited Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Should vote against all trump’s nominees! Every single one of them! None of them are qualified for any office.

dchill

(41,910 posts)
12. They are deliberately meant to be uniquely unqualified...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:03 PM
Feb 11

...for the posts to which they are nominated.

Response to dchill (Reply #12)

Wiz Imp

(4,653 posts)
15. Since Last week's all night session...
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:16 PM
Feb 11

Not a single Democrat has voted YES on any nominee or motion in the Senate. Everyone who was there to vote has voted NO on everything.

Emile

(33,981 posts)
16. She thinks Americans want them to work together when they can and find common ground.
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 10:25 PM
Feb 11

centrist bs.

Response to djacq (Original post)

Response to djacq (Original post)

Godot51

(408 posts)
23. Partisanship
Tue Feb 11, 2025, 11:31 PM
Feb 11

Partisanship has been dead for republicans since the ray-gun era when the lockstep of fascism appeared.

It grew stronger before, during, and after the 1st Gulf War.

Then it grew much stronger when trying to derail any and all of the Clinton agenda (and to gain revenge for the Nixon impeachment hearings).

It became the standard after 9/11 and before, during, and after the 2nd Gulf War.

It grew into total idiot fascism under drumpf 1, and it attempted to block anything and all Biden did, and is still in place, stupider and stronger than ever.

Democrats, at least too many of them, seem unaware of this march, or they hope that by being bipartisan they can show the republicans how fair and square they can be, or they expect some type of change will suddenly hit the republican (ha ha ha).

Perhaps this is a case in which fighting fire with fire is justified since fire and the destruction it brings is almost all conservatives today understand.

Any Democrat who votes for any republican nominee, any republican issues, or any republican plan that may damage, demean, or destroy the U.S. is suspect in my limited view.

ShazzieB

(20,152 posts)
28. Partisanship or Bipartisanship?
Wed Feb 12, 2025, 08:25 PM
Feb 12
Partisanship has been dead for republicans since the ray-gun era when
the lockstep of fascism appeared.


Did you mean to say that bipartisanship is dead for Republicans? The examples you then cite seem to be cases of partisanship increasing, if I'm understanding correctly. That is something I would strongly agree with.
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