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WarGamer

(18,249 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:34 PM Feb 2025

What we are seeing TODAY is a privilege and consequence of WINNING an election.

The pain and agony of what is happening today needs to be seared into our collective Democratic consciences...

Every step that has weakened our Party and strengthened the Trump Party is to blame.

Politics is salesmanship.

You can't take a Greek Food Truck and park it in South Central LA up against a Mexican Food Truck.

DNC architects not only failed to observe the dynamic of the Trump Party (I cant call it GOP) as they swerved into traditional Democratic territory like "blue collar workers" and civil rights defense...but they betrayed core Democratic values numerous times.

But they went a step further and ran the campaign as if the voting public was a board of tenured Harvard professors...

And then instead of allowing the traditional Primary process to pick a nominee for 24... put the VP in place without challengers.

There were options. We could have had an "express Primary" or decided to have an open Primary back in 2022 or 2023.

And then blamed the public because they were "too stupid"

Summary... to make good things happen, you gotta win elections. Lose elections and bad stuff happens.

Having "brilliant or joyful candidates" isn't enough. You gotta win.

I don't care if we have to run a Janitor from Harvard or the guy at the car wash, I want to win.

WIN in 2016 and Trump never became a political force, the SCOTUS leans Left and Hillary would have just finished her 2nd term last month.

JUST WIN.

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What we are seeing TODAY is a privilege and consequence of WINNING an election. (Original Post) WarGamer Feb 2025 OP
+1. Since Nov, I've been trying to understand why that 5% or so that might vote Democratic switched to trump. Silent Type Feb 2025 #1
Bluetus isn't wrong WarGamer Feb 2025 #2
That makes it sound like Democrats/the Harris campaign had no plan, which we know was not true. LauraInLA Feb 2025 #3
Did it work? WarGamer Feb 2025 #4
Plan for what? mr715 Feb 2025 #8
Can you explain that "plan" in a few words? That's the problem. Running on trump is a POS, while true Silent Type Feb 2025 #9
Well Stated mr715 Feb 2025 #5
Biden won by way more than trump senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #6
And then he lost mr715 Feb 2025 #7
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. +1. Since Nov, I've been trying to understand why that 5% or so that might vote Democratic switched to trump.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:38 PM
Feb 2025

Last night I read a post that nailed it in one sentence--

“A crappy, horrendous, even evil plan beats no plan at all, especially when it is delivered with some gusto.”

DUer: Bluetus

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
3. That makes it sound like Democrats/the Harris campaign had no plan, which we know was not true.
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:47 PM
Feb 2025

mr715

(2,673 posts)
8. Plan for what?
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:01 PM
Feb 2025

Policy? It didn't win us anything. Hillary Clinton had policy coming out of her ears and she lost because of the vagaries of our ridiculous system.

Democrats always have a policy plan, but they obviously.... Obviously had no plan to win this election. You know how I know? Biden had to be humiliated before he was shamed into not running. Had he a plan for the "soul of the nation" he wouldn't have run for reelection because the vibes were quite clear.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. Can you explain that "plan" in a few words? That's the problem. Running on trump is a POS, while true
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 05:03 PM
Feb 2025

is not a plan, nor is $50K for a first time home buyer, and the like. Admittedly, I’m ticked we lost and don’t want to see another failure in midterms?

senseandsensibility

(24,238 posts)
6. Biden won by way more than trump
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:50 PM
Feb 2025

Missed the privilege part. The media made sure he never had it. I know that's not the whole story, but let's be real here. It's not an even playing field.

mr715

(2,673 posts)
7. And then he lost
Thu Feb 13, 2025, 04:58 PM
Feb 2025

I struggle to see how the Biden administration will be seen as anything but a Trump interregnum.

The significance of his win in 2020 is eclipsed by how far it drove Trump to his very worst impulses.


And then they sit on stage together.

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