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AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:10 AM Feb 2025

RFK Jr. rescinds Indian Health Service layoffs

I don't know if this means Kennedy is going to be in big trouble with Elon for unfiring his firings or if this is with the Trump admin blessing- but what this does illustrate once again is that these mass, unprecedented, illegal firings don't just hurt the individuals fired.... they are hurting all Americans. We will see a trickling out of exactly how *we* are all impacted in coming weeks and months and we will see a rush to plug the dam as this happens.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-rescinds-indian-health-034102132.html

WASHINGTON — Newly installed Secretary of Health Robert F. Kennedy Jr. verbally rescinded the layoffs of 950 Indian Health Service employees Friday evening, just hours after the workers were told by phone that they were losing their jobs, sources familiar with the notification told ICT.

The layoff orders for IHS were rescinded about 6 p.m. Eastern on Friday, Feb. 14, and the official email notifications of the layoffs were never sent to the probationary employees who expected to receive them, sources said.

Acting IHS Director Ben Smith said on an emotional phone call Friday afternoon that the 950 employees would receive the layoff notices from the Office of Personnel Management “immediately,” according to sources who heard the call.

The call left a number of employees in tears, and Smith emphasized that the layoffs were “troubling news” for all employees.

After news arrived a few hours later that the layoffs had been rescinded, supervisors began notifying the targeted employees that they had been given a reprieve.
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RFK Jr. rescinds Indian Health Service layoffs (Original Post) AkFemDem Feb 2025 OP
We are all at the mercy of the South African Nazi and his puppet dalton99a Feb 2025 #1
Well hell....RFK dares to defy President Musk?? Bengus81 Feb 2025 #2
Battle of the NEPO baby-men Iris Feb 2025 #3
This is the pattern... Layoffs. Uproar. A mealy mouthed, but highly public retraction. Layoffs... Hugin Feb 2025 #4
It's all a big clown show mdbl Feb 2025 #34
Actually DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #45
"When a clown moves into a palace, he does not become a king; the palace becomes a circus." Ocelot II Feb 2025 #46
An *evil* clown show Dave says Feb 2025 #50
Well that's good but it's not the way to run a government MissB Feb 2025 #5
Correct The Madcap Feb 2025 #32
As we used to say at Alltel (or All hell) "It's a hell of a way to run a railroad" LiberalArkie Feb 2025 #38
Exactly DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #47
These witless amateurs have absolutely no idea what they're doing. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #6
Crazier still is that the nuclear firings involve The Madcap Feb 2025 #33
They tried to exempt doctors and nurses but fire everyone else (the 950 staff)-- Wingus Dingus Feb 2025 #7
Like a horse running loose in a hospital. Donkees Feb 2025 #8
A John Mulaney reference will always get a thumbs-up from me-- Wingus Dingus Feb 2025 #9
Greedy billionairs are in charge!! riversedge Feb 2025 #20
More like DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #48
Nobody is in charge. CanonRay Feb 2025 #10
This is being done deliberately peggysue2 Feb 2025 #11
+1. It is terrorism. The South African Nazi is waging a war of terror against Americans. dalton99a Feb 2025 #13
RFK Jr. is nutty, but he isn't a total monster. Ken Mosul Feb 2025 #12
I remember back H2O Man Feb 2025 #39
They called back targeted Tickle Feb 2025 #14
Also called being stupid and laying off the wrong people. paleotn Feb 2025 #29
Rug pull. Reverse rug pull. jeffreyi Feb 2025 #15
There is that. Good cop, bad cop, but ultimately they're on the same team. Alice B. Feb 2025 #37
I predict many of the cabinet took their posts Johonny Feb 2025 #16
I hope ALL the big egos have knock out fights!! riversedge Feb 2025 #18
Waiting for Bill and Jeff battle of the billionaires. Keeping the power on in the pacific nw. cbabe Feb 2025 #22
....critical care workers would be exempt, but that 950 employees would still be laid off, sources said.... riversedge Feb 2025 #17
Well, President Musk isn't going to like that. Will RFK Jr. be the first to go? Vinca Feb 2025 #19
Glad to see trump and his henchmen backing off on some issues. Of course, they created this crud. Silent Type Feb 2025 #21
Whale juice-boy will be the first Trump firing. LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #23
how many scaramucci's is that? nt et tu Feb 2025 #36
3.81 Scaramucci's LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #42
thani you lol nt et tu Feb 2025 #52
Rethugs in this administration are blaming other rethugs in this administration. That's what they love bluestarone Feb 2025 #24
Well, the middle class and the poor were never on their agenda anyway. paleotn Feb 2025 #28
Well, they were on their agenda, but not the way they should have been. bluestarone Feb 2025 #44
Well, thinking....Regardless of what actually happens - would you Dan Feb 2025 #25
I need a scorecard for all these fed personnel moves Raven123 Feb 2025 #26
Retreat!!! paleotn Feb 2025 #27
What weight does a verbal rescinding carry? Attilatheblond Feb 2025 #30
"Ha ha. Suckers. We were just jerking your chain. Ha ha." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Feb 2025 #31
Dummy Donny wants to deport them back to multigraincracker Feb 2025 #35
The government isn't Twitter. mwooldri Feb 2025 #40
Standard pattern of an abusive relationship pfitz59 Feb 2025 #41
Good. alarimer Feb 2025 #43
At least he did the right thing. 2naSalit Feb 2025 #49
James Donald Trump Bowman's wife is of Indiam heritage. GreenWave Feb 2025 #51
um.... you know this agency is not for Indians from India right? AkFemDem Feb 2025 #54
I think with half these cuts they are testing the outrage of America. applegrove Feb 2025 #53

Bengus81

(9,805 posts)
2. Well hell....RFK dares to defy President Musk??
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:17 AM
Feb 2025

Get your popcorn,let's see how this plays out......

Hugin

(37,418 posts)
4. This is the pattern... Layoffs. Uproar. A mealy mouthed, but highly public retraction. Layoffs...
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:17 AM
Feb 2025

( Fuck “Layoffs” they are ILLEGAL FIRINGS OR TERMINATIONS. ) Firings reinstated.

The retractions are bogus, because Musk is really running the show. These people like RFK jr are just faces to take the flack.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
45. Actually
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 02:16 PM
Feb 2025

what we are witnessing is complete ANARCHY in our Federal Government.............with each psychopath narcissist fighting all out for themselves on a total power tripping manic level...........

And Putin is sitting in a room, with direct feeds from Fox, CNN, Network news and RW Cable, and watching ecstatically at everything he is witnessing. Knowing HE was/is the orchestrator of it all........

Ocelot II

(129,012 posts)
46. "When a clown moves into a palace, he does not become a king; the palace becomes a circus."
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 02:17 PM
Feb 2025

MissB

(16,340 posts)
5. Well that's good but it's not the way to run a government
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:19 AM
Feb 2025

It’s really the way to ruin a government.

I get that the idiots in charge want a smaller government but it’s virtually impossible to do that and still maintain a country.

They’re not smart enough to thread the needle.

The Madcap

(1,746 posts)
32. Correct
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:12 PM
Feb 2025

Governments require a combination of trust and fear to operate effectively. To have both, you have to have competence. At this point, there is no trust nor competence. The fear factor is the only thing keeping it alive, but that will be knee-capped by their stupidity to the point where their threats become a running joke.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. Exactly
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 02:22 PM
Feb 2025

But please everyone....... REALIZE they don't WANT to maintain the country........More importantly, the Republican Party, is being directed by our #1 Enemy to Destroy the Country, not maintain it.................

The only thing Holding Russia/Putin, and China back from WORLD DOMINATION, is the United States................And believe me, China is all in on helping him.

Ocelot II

(129,012 posts)
6. These witless amateurs have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:21 AM
Feb 2025

Those feckless pimply teenaged Muskenjugend see numbers on a spreadsheet and decide to just lop off the bottom of the list, having no clue what any of it means; then when it turns out to have been a monumentally stupid move they have to undo it - like when they fired the staff at the National Nuclear Security Administration without knowing what they do, which is oversee the safety of nuclear weapons. And then when they realized that was a big fuckup they tried to unfire them but couldn't find them! Then they sacked 950 health care providers for Native Americans - again, clearly not understanding what those employees do, and even Brainworm Bobby understood what a fucking disaster that was.

The Madcap

(1,746 posts)
33. Crazier still is that the nuclear firings involve
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:16 PM
Feb 2025

People who likely have clearances and knowledge that certain countries would gladly pay for. Hopefully, the integrity of those fired will keep that info from getting sold...unlike those boxes at maralardo.

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
7. They tried to exempt doctors and nurses but fire everyone else (the 950 staff)--
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:22 AM
Feb 2025

not understanding how hospitals, health clinics, laboratories, imaging, pharmacies, etc. work. Because they are stupid, stupid fucks who don't know what they're doing--just like with firing nuclear staffers.

peggysue2

(12,379 posts)
11. This is being done deliberately
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:58 AM
Feb 2025

To leave people in a heightened state of anxiety and confusion with little energy and focus to pushback en masse. These goons want the population stunned and off-balance for as long as possible as they loosen and tear the threads of our civic society. The more damage they cause, the better for the completion of their anti-democratic 'reforms'.

As for the pain inflicted? That's purposeful, the definition of power from our new wanna-be overlords.

It's diabolical, effective.

Never forget, never forgive!

dalton99a

(92,070 posts)
13. +1. It is terrorism. The South African Nazi is waging a war of terror against Americans.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:01 PM
Feb 2025
 

Ken Mosul

(45 posts)
12. RFK Jr. is nutty, but he isn't a total monster.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 11:59 AM
Feb 2025

He'll make plenty of outrageous decisions if he lasts longer than a Scaramucci, but he does come from a family that actually has compassion for other people.

H2O Man

(78,610 posts)
39. I remember back
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:47 PM
Feb 2025

in 1988, when we were talking, Robert saying his father had taught him that Native Americans and the environment were the same thing. Now, I'm not in favor of Robert's serving the felon. Back in May last year, he said he recognized the felon is a sociopath. And I disagree with him on vaccines. But I thought it curious that DUers wondered why Native Americans voted for the felon ..... it was not for the felon, it was for Robert. Non-Native people are unaware of the work Robert did for Native people in North, Central, and South America over the decades.

I do agree with him that the poisons should be removed from the foods Americans consume.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
14. They called back targeted
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:03 PM
Feb 2025

employees. That's kinda normal when companies are having layoffs

Johonny

(25,407 posts)
16. I predict many of the cabinet took their posts
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:13 PM
Feb 2025

With the idea they and not Musk would be in charge of their department. I assume more and more power struggles among egos to come.

cbabe

(6,185 posts)
22. Waiting for Bill and Jeff battle of the billionaires. Keeping the power on in the pacific nw.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:44 PM
Feb 2025

riversedge

(79,347 posts)
17. ....critical care workers would be exempt, but that 950 employees would still be laid off, sources said....
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:17 PM
Feb 2025

People will die because of Trumps cruelty--but not enough to wake most folks up!!



The OPM initially indicated that 2,200 probationary employees in IHS would be laid off, including nearly 100 doctors, 350 nurses, nursing assistants, pharmacists and others. IHS formally asked for an exemption for all healthcare workers.

In response, Trump administration officials notified health officials that doctors, nurses and other critical care workers would be exempt, but that 950 employees would still be laid off, sources said.


 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
21. Glad to see trump and his henchmen backing off on some issues. Of course, they created this crud.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:41 PM
Feb 2025

bluestarone

(21,138 posts)
24. Rethugs in this administration are blaming other rethugs in this administration. That's what they love
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 12:48 PM
Feb 2025

MASS CONFUSION!! They create it then blame others!! NOTHING gets done for the middle class and poor.

paleotn

(21,525 posts)
28. Well, the middle class and the poor were never on their agenda anyway.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:08 PM
Feb 2025

other than maybe stealing from them.

bluestarone

(21,138 posts)
44. Well, they were on their agenda, but not the way they should have been.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 02:06 PM
Feb 2025

They hate us. all of us that don't make the billionaire grade. The problem with their thinking is, WITHOUT us there would be NONE of them.

Dan

(4,962 posts)
25. Well, thinking....Regardless of what actually happens - would you
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:03 PM
Feb 2025

Take a federal job in the future? What will be the long term impact?

People tend to take government jobs for the stability, not the high pay. But if you remove the stability from the job and every new administration brings stress, hardship, and uncertainty - would you apply for those jobs with that in mind?

The damage they have done and will continue to do, until we the people say ENOUGH.

Raven123

(7,528 posts)
26. I need a scorecard for all these fed personnel moves
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:07 PM
Feb 2025

Looks like Jr is the only person willing to face down Musk. Wonder if I need to get more popcorn

paleotn

(21,525 posts)
27. Retreat!!!
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:08 PM
Feb 2025

Run away! Run away! It's a massive political loser.

&ab_channel=SunBunz

But you're right. These crazed firings will hurt everyone and tank the US economy. Slather on some equally crazed tariffs and we've got a nasty recession on our hands and a hell of a lot of pissed off people. Remember, we're dealing with idiots. Morons. Elmo is just as stupid as Donny. He's living proof that someone has to win the lottery. Not by skill, but by dumb luck.

Attilatheblond

(8,274 posts)
30. What weight does a verbal rescinding carry?
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:10 PM
Feb 2025

Not sure workers who got the boot are gonna be in a rush to show up for work until something in writing says they are going to get paid.

mwooldri

(10,786 posts)
40. The government isn't Twitter.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:52 PM
Feb 2025

One doesn't go in with mass layoffs, figure out you laid off the wrong people and then try to get them back.

It's a stupid way to run a company, let alone a country.

pfitz59

(12,313 posts)
41. Standard pattern of an abusive relationship
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 01:56 PM
Feb 2025

beat a person up, then offer a hand and say "sorry. didn't mean it. I love you and need you." rinse and repeat.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
43. Good.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 02:03 PM
Feb 2025

I'm not sure this makes up for the rest of his bullshit but at least it's something.

applegrove

(130,212 posts)
53. I think with half these cuts they are testing the outrage of America.
Sun Feb 16, 2025, 04:17 PM
Feb 2025

If it is too much they backtracked and go after some other funding. Plus it exhausts us.

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