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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,612 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:19 PM Feb 2025

Do you believe TSF wants America to enter into a military alliance with Russia?


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Do you believe TSF wants America to enter into a military alliance with Russia? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2025 OP
and the EU thinks we're changing sides. Native Feb 2025 #1
And to be honest, what's so weird about this? Weren't we allies in WW2? SWBTATTReg Feb 2025 #2
Our allies are the people we beat the crap out of. GreenWave Feb 2025 #3
This is definitely happening Diraven Feb 2025 #4
Tough question. I was going to vote "no" but seeing so many DUers Mike 03 Feb 2025 #5
I did hear the same arguments bronxiteforever Feb 2025 #7
There is precedent for Russia attacking Poland with another power and dividing it. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2025 #8
What use will it be if we are as weak as Russia? Bad Thoughts Feb 2025 #6
Will it get him Trump Tower Moscow? Retrograde Feb 2025 #9
China enid602 Feb 2025 #10
The Putin could take over Europe. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #11

SWBTATTReg

(26,002 posts)
2. And to be honest, what's so weird about this? Weren't we allies in WW2?
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:23 PM
Feb 2025

And I wonder now, if djt is trying to replicate the so-called end times, when Russia and the US became allies, to defeat the 'beast'.

GreenWave

(12,217 posts)
3. Our allies are the people we beat the crap out of.
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:27 PM
Feb 2025

Staunch (2 times) : Germany, England
Good (1 time) Spain, France, Italy, Mexico,

Fought but lost! Rewrite history time. Russia (after WWi), Viet-nam

Feel free to add.

Diraven

(1,795 posts)
4. This is definitely happening
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:28 PM
Feb 2025

If Ukraine doesn't surrender. Think of all the intelligence we have on Ukraine from working with them for 3 years. We probably know exactly where every Ukrainian military target is. Trump could easily hand all that info to Putin at a minimum, instantly crippling their defense. Worst case, he will order the US military to attack them ourselves.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
5. Tough question. I was going to vote "no" but seeing so many DUers
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:31 PM
Feb 2025

vote "yes" has me thinking.

My reasoning for voting "No" is that I think Putin, Trump and Xi are more preoccupied with dividing up the planets into spheres of influence than fighting wars. Also, I don't really know who our enemy would be. It wouldn't be China, since Russia and China already have an alliance.

But I need to think this through. I don't see what is to be gained by the United States, except that it relieves us of our responsibilities to defend anybody but ourselves (and Russia?). I just can't.... Sure, Putin loves the prestige of such a notion. Again, though: An alliance against who? And please don't say "an alliance against Europe, Canada, Greenland and Japan," because that's absurd. But maybe nothing is too absurd for Trump.

But I've been accused of naivete before.

bronxiteforever

(11,065 posts)
7. I did hear the same arguments
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 04:52 PM
Feb 2025

about spheres of influence on the Bulwark. This is how TSF sees the world. But the king of America has a hankering for revenge so what better way to show his many detractors than actually supporting a Rusdian military alliance.

enid602

(9,608 posts)
10. China
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 05:29 PM
Feb 2025

Well, China has 10 times the population of Russia. China has all the money in the world. Russia has never been able to populate or industrialize Siberia and Eastern Russia. I think China will eventually realize that its only hope for expansion is in Russia. We would not want to find ourselves in a position where we’e defending Russia from China.

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